I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller must
either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm looking for
this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.

-robert

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
...
>I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
> are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller must
> either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm looking for
> this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.

What workload permitting means is the controller doesn't have the option of
denying traffic advisories so long as his/her workload permits. If you look
at the practical side of it, a controller can be very busy one minute and
mostly idle the next, so does that mean a controller must add more workload
by cancelling FF for each and every aircraft when they may be soon idle?
Most controllers aren't going to, and I can't say I would want them to
anyway.

Robert M. Gary writes:

> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
> are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller must
> either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm looking for
> this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.

The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not be able
to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic nearby that the
controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the pilot/controller
glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:

"Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible depending on
higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations; e.g., radar
limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or controller workload.
Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of his/her
responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are cautioned that
there are many times when the controller is not able to give traffic
advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's proximity; in other words,
when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she should not
assume that all traffic will be issued."

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Robert M. Gary writes:
>
>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
>> are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
>> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
>> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller must
>> either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm looking for
>> this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.
>
> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not be
> able
> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic nearby that
> the
> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the pilot/controller
> glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>
> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
> depending on
> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations; e.g., radar
> limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or controller
> workload.
> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of his/her
> responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are cautioned that
> there are many times when the controller is not able to give traffic
> advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's proximity; in other
> words,
> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she should
> not
> assume that all traffic will be issued."

It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.

5 by 5 <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>
> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>
>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
>>> are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
>>> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
>>> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller must
>>> either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm looking for
>>> this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.
>>
>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not be
>> able
>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic nearby that
>> the
>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the pilot/controller
>> glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>
>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>> depending on
>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations; e.g., radar
>> limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or controller
>> workload.
>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of his/her
>> responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are cautioned that
>> there are many times when the controller is not able to give traffic
>> advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's proximity; in other
>> words,
>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she should
>> not
>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>
> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.

Oh come on now.

While not by any means a MX defender, if he answers a question with a
valid reference, that should be that and the insults reserved for when
he goes off into pontificate mode.


--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

> wrote in message
...
>5 by 5 <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>>
>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>>
>>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
>>>> are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
>>>> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
>>>> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller must
>>>> either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm looking for
>>>> this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.
>>>
>>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not be
>>> able
>>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic nearby
>>> that
>>> the
>>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the pilot/controller
>>> glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>>
>>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>>> depending on
>>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations; e.g.,
>>> radar
>>> limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or controller
>>> workload.
>>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of his/her
>>> responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are cautioned
>>> that
>>> there are many times when the controller is not able to give traffic
>>> advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's proximity; in other
>>> words,
>>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she should
>>> not
>>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>>
>> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>
> Oh come on now.
>
> While not by any means a MX defender, if he answers a question with a
> valid reference, that should be that and the insults reserved for when
> he goes off into pontificate mode.
>
>
> --
> Jim Pennino
>
> Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Preemptive strike.

"5 by 5" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>
>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
>>> are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
>>> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
>>> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller
>>> must either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm
>>> looking for this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.
>>
>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not
>> be able
>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic nearby
>> that the
>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the
>> pilot/controller glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>
>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>> depending on
>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations; e.g.,
>> radar limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or
>> controller workload.
>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of
>> his/her responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are
>> cautioned that there are many times when the controller is not able
>> to give traffic advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's
>> proximity; in other words,
>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she
>> should not
>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>
> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>

PKB. You can't fly either, buttboi. How many students you cheat this
week?


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "5 by 5" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>>
>>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
>>>> are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
>>>> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
>>>> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller
>>>> must either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm
>>>> looking for this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.
>>>
>>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not
>>> be able
>>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic nearby
>>> that the
>>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the
>>> pilot/controller glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>>
>>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>>> depending on
>>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations; e.g.,
>>> radar limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or
>>> controller workload.
>>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of
>>> his/her responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are
>>> cautioned that there are many times when the controller is not able
>>> to give traffic advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's
>>> proximity; in other words,
>>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she
>>> should not
>>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>>
>> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>>
>
> PKB. You can't fly either, buttboi. How many students you cheat this
> week?
>
>
> Bertie

Who you swinging at now, Dumb Ass!!!!!

wrote in :

> 5 by 5 <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>>
>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>>
>>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic
>>>> advisories are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However,
>>>> I seem to recall some of our controller friends saying that as long
>>>> as an aircraft is currently being given flight following the
>>>> controller must either advise traffic or cancel the flight
>>>> following. I'm looking for this type of language in the 7110 but
>>>> I'm not seeing it.
>>>
>>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not
>>> be able
>>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic nearby
>>> that the
>>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the
>>> pilot/controller glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>>
>>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>>> depending on
>>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations; e.g.,
>>> radar limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or
>>> controller workload.
>>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of
>>> his/her responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are
>>> cautioned that there are many times when the controller is not able
>>> to give traffic advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's
>>> proximity; in other words,
>>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she
>>> should not
>>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>>
>> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>
> Oh come on now.
>
> While not by any means a MX defender, if he answers a question with a
> valid reference, that should be that and the insults reserved for when
> he goes off into pontificate mode.
>

Uh oh. I think you just made the lits again.



Bertie

"The Bunyip Slayer" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>>5 by 5 <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic
>>>>> advisories are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However,
>>>>> I seem to recall some of our controller friends saying that as
>>>>> long as an aircraft is currently being given flight following the
>>>>> controller must either advise traffic or cancel the flight
>>>>> following. I'm looking for this type of language in the 7110 but
>>>>> I'm not seeing it.
>>>>
>>>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not
>>>> be able
>>>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic
>>>> nearby that
>>>> the
>>>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the
>>>> pilot/controller glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>>>
>>>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>>>> depending on
>>>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations;
>>>> e.g., radar
>>>> limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or controller
>>>> workload.
>>>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of
>>>> his/her responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are
>>>> cautioned that
>>>> there are many times when the controller is not able to give
>>>> traffic advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's
>>>> proximity; in other words,
>>>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she
>>>> should not
>>>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>>
>> Oh come on now.
>>
>> While not by any means a MX defender, if he answers a question with a
>> valid reference, that should be that and the insults reserved for
>> when he goes off into pontificate mode.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>>
>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> Preemptive strike.
>

Snort!


bertie

The Bunyip Slayer <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:

> Preemptive strike.

Is that they way you act towards your kids when they do something right?

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

"DanO" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:o8Gqk.33793$KZ.18869
@newsfe03.iad:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "5 by 5" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic
advisories
>>>>> are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However, I seem to
>>>>> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
>>>>> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller
>>>>> must either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm
>>>>> looking for this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing
it.
>>>>
>>>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not
>>>> be able
>>>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic
nearby
>>>> that the
>>>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the
>>>> pilot/controller glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>>>
>>>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>>>> depending on
>>>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations;
e.g.,
>>>> radar limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or
>>>> controller workload.
>>>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of
>>>> his/her responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are
>>>> cautioned that there are many times when the controller is not able
>>>> to give traffic advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's
>>>> proximity; in other words,
>>>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she
>>>> should not
>>>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>>>
>>
>> PKB. You can't fly either, buttboi. How many students you cheat this
>> week?
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Who you swinging at now, Dumb Ass!!!!!
>

Swinging? Nobody. Asked you a question.

Bertie

wrote in :

> The Bunyip Slayer <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>
>> Preemptive strike.
>
> Is that they way you act towards your kids when they do something right?
>

Kids? Now there's a scary thought. Having said that, I suppose American
Idol has to get it's audience from somewhere.


Bertie

> wrote in message
...
> The Bunyip Slayer <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>
>> Preemptive strike.
>
> Is that they way you act towards your kids when they do something right?
>
> --
> Jim Pennino
>
> Remove .spam.sux to reply.

If one of my kids was 1/4 as ****ed up as Mx, they wouldn't be asking
questions on a public forum.

"The Bunyip Slayer" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:gpGqk.33798
:

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> The Bunyip Slayer <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>>
>>> Preemptive strike.
>>
>> Is that they way you act towards your kids when they do something right?
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>>
>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> If one of my kids was 1/4 as ****ed up as Mx, they wouldn't be asking
> questions on a public forum.


Good for you Maxie, facing up to your problem is the first step.


Bertie

"The Bunyip Slayer" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>>5 by 5 <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic
>>>>> advisories are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However,
>>>>> I seem to recall some of our controller friends saying that as
>>>>> long as an aircraft is currently being given flight following the
>>>>> controller must either advise traffic or cancel the flight
>>>>> following. I'm looking for this type of language in the 7110 but
>>>>> I'm not seeing it.
>>>>
>>>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not
>>>> be able
>>>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic
>>>> nearby that
>>>> the
>>>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the
>>>> pilot/controller glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>>>
>>>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>>>> depending on
>>>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations;
>>>> e.g., radar
>>>> limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or controller
>>>> workload.
>>>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of
>>>> his/her responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are
>>>> cautioned that
>>>> there are many times when the controller is not able to give
>>>> traffic advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's
>>>> proximity; in other words,
>>>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she
>>>> should not
>>>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>>
>> Oh come on now.
>>
>> While not by any means a MX defender, if he answers a question with a
>> valid reference, that should be that and the insults reserved for
>> when he goes off into pontificate mode.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>>
>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> Preemptive strike.
>
>

And well justified in Anthony's case.

"Buster Hymen" > wrote in message
...
> "The Bunyip Slayer" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>5 by 5 <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic
>>>>>> advisories are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis. However,
>>>>>> I seem to recall some of our controller friends saying that as
>>>>>> long as an aircraft is currently being given flight following the
>>>>>> controller must either advise traffic or cancel the flight
>>>>>> following. I'm looking for this type of language in the 7110 but
>>>>>> I'm not seeing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may not
>>>>> be able
>>>>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic
>>>>> nearby that
>>>>> the
>>>>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the
>>>>> pilot/controller glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>>>>> depending on
>>>>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations;
>>>>> e.g., radar
>>>>> limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or controller
>>>>> workload.
>>>>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of
>>>>> his/her responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots are
>>>>> cautioned that
>>>>> there are many times when the controller is not able to give
>>>>> traffic advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's
>>>>> proximity; in other words,
>>>>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she
>>>>> should not
>>>>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>>>
>>> Oh come on now.
>>>
>>> While not by any means a MX defender, if he answers a question with a
>>> valid reference, that should be that and the insults reserved for
>>> when he goes off into pontificate mode.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Pennino
>>>
>>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>>
>> Preemptive strike.
>>
>>
>
> And well justified in Anthony's case.
>

Indeed. Keep up the good work.

"The Bunyip Slayer" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:fGWqk.2649
:

>
> "Buster Hymen" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "The Bunyip Slayer" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>5 by 5 <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic
>>>>>>> advisories are given to VFR aircraft on a workload basis.
However,
>>>>>>> I seem to recall some of our controller friends saying that as
>>>>>>> long as an aircraft is currently being given flight following
the
>>>>>>> controller must either advise traffic or cancel the flight
>>>>>>> following. I'm looking for this type of language in the 7110 but
>>>>>>> I'm not seeing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The controller is not required to call out all traffic, and may
not
>>>>>> be able
>>>>>> to. The pilot should always assume that there may be traffic
>>>>>> nearby that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> controller cannot point out. This is mentioned in the
>>>>>> pilot/controller glossary of the 7710 under Traffic Advisories:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Traffic advisory service will be provided to the extent possible
>>>>>> depending on
>>>>>> higher priority duties of the controller or other limitations;
>>>>>> e.g., radar
>>>>>> limitations, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, or
controller
>>>>>> workload.
>>>>>> Radar/ nonradar traffic advisories do not relieve the pilot of
>>>>>> his/her responsibility to see and avoid other aircraft. Pilots
are
>>>>>> cautioned that
>>>>>> there are many times when the controller is not able to give
>>>>>> traffic advisories concerning all traffic in the aircraft's
>>>>>> proximity; in other words,
>>>>>> when a pilot requests or is receiving traffic advisories, he/she
>>>>>> should not
>>>>>> assume that all traffic will be issued."
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't matter if your just flying a desk retard.
>>>>
>>>> Oh come on now.
>>>>
>>>> While not by any means a MX defender, if he answers a question with
a
>>>> valid reference, that should be that and the insults reserved for
>>>> when he goes off into pontificate mode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Pennino
>>>>
>>>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>>>
>>> Preemptive strike.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And well justified in Anthony's case.
>>
>
> Indeed. Keep up the good work.
>
>
>
>

Snort!



Bwwahwhahwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahw!

Bertie

On Aug 19, 9:24*am, "Robert M. Gary" > wrote:
> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
> are given to VFR aircraft a workload basis. However, I seem to
> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller must
> either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm looking for
> this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.
>
> -robert

Well I think this finally does it for me on this forum. This is a
question that a year ago would have generated useful answers with
references to the 7110 code. However, I did not get one answer to my
question. I at least thought our controllers Newsp and Steven would
have posted something on this.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary > wrote:
> On Aug 19, 9:24?am, "Robert M. Gary" > wrote:
>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
>> are given to VFR aircraft a workload basis. However, I seem to
>> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
>> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller must
>> either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm looking for
>> this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.
>>
>> -robert
>
> Well I think this finally does it for me on this forum. This is a
> question that a year ago would have generated useful answers with
> references to the 7110 code. However, I did not get one answer to my
> question. I at least thought our controllers Newsp and Steven would
> have posted something on this.
>
> -Robert

You've probably kill filed MX so you didn't see he was the only one
to provide such an answer, and that seems to be causing parkas to
be issued in Hell.


--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> On Aug 19, 9:24 am, "Robert M. Gary" > wrote:
>>
>> I know that the AIM tell us that class E airspace traffic advisories
>> are given to VFR aircraft a workload basis. However, I seem to
>> recall some of our controller friends saying that as long as an
>> aircraft is currently being given flight following the controller
>> must either advise traffic or cancel the flight following. I'm
>> looking for this type of language in the 7110 but I'm not seeing it.
>>
>
> Well I think this finally does it for me on this forum. This is a
> question that a year ago would have generated useful answers with
> references to the 7110 code. However, I did not get one answer to my
> question. I at least thought our controllers Newsp and Steven would
> have posted something on this.
>

I have posted on that subject in this forum many times in the past twelve
years. I've grown tired of it.

On Aug 20, 12:54*pm, "Steven P. McNicoll" >
wrote:
> Robert M. Gary wrote:

> I have posted on that subject in this forum many times in the past twelve
> years. *I've grown tired of it.-

In fact the first thing I did was search through all your usenet
posts. I searched for postings under your name under "workload"
"flight following" "radar services". I remember you posting on this in
the past but I wasn't able to get a good hit on the search.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
>
> In fact the first thing I did was search through all your usenet
> posts. I searched for postings under your name under "workload"
> "flight following" "radar services". I remember you posting on this in
> the past but I wasn't able to get a good hit on the search.
>

Strange. I get 189 hits on "workload", 943 on "flight following", and 197
on "radar services".

On Aug 20, 5:34*pm, "Steven P. McNicoll" >
wrote:
> Robert M. Gary wrote:
>
> > In fact the first thing I did was search through all your usenet
> > posts. I searched for postings under your name under "workload"
> > "flight following" "radar services". I remember you posting on this in
> > the past but I wasn't able to get a good hit on the search.
>
> Strange. *I get 189 hits on "workload", 943 on "flight following", and 197
> on "radar services".

Yea, but I was only looking for posts from you.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
>>
>> Strange. I get 189 hits on "workload", 943 on "flight following",
>> and 197 on "radar services".
>>
>
> Yea, but I was only looking for posts from you.
>

I had used "McNicoll" as the author.