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Eris
August 26th 04, 06:24 PM
On 26 Aug 2004 14:06:46 GMT, s7ven >
wrote:

>Eris said...
>
>> Al thought I was amazed in the Army of how ignorant some people who
>> had degrees from some southern colleges were.
>
>As well as people from Northern Colleges. Poor education is not just a
>regional thing.
>
>I love how people try to be elitists based on their region.
>
>-s7ven
Actually it was a lot of fun in the army. The North against the South
and vice versa,.
But you are correct I should have matured since then.

B2431
August 26th 04, 07:05 PM
>From: Eris

I'm waiting for your revisionist
>>history so I can bitch slap you across the mouth with the truth from Federal
>>Government documents. :o) (FYI I'm not a white boy like you)

"White boy" is to white people as "******" is to black people. Racist comments
on either side serve no purpose. The guy who said southerners are Republicans
who hate King is obviously ignorant of the facts, but your comment was an
uncalled for reponse.

Dan, U.S Air Force, retired

B2431
August 26th 04, 07:40 PM
>From: "Kevin Brooks"
>Date: 8/26/2004 12:57 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>"Eris" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:27:32 -0400, "Kevin Brooks"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Eris" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> ><snip garbage>
>> >
>> > So the Democratic's you hate have taken over your
>> >> party.
>> >> A few staid like Byrd.
>> >
>> >The "Democratic's"? "Staid"? And YOU have been making disparaging
>comments
>> >about southern institutions of higher learning supposedly yielding
>ignorant
>> >graduates?! Pot, meet Mr. Kettle...
>> >
>> >Brooks
>> >
>> You got me there.
>> And there are many outstanding Southern Universitys and many dubious
>> Northern Universitys. That aside what a bout my point.
>
>Never knew you had one.
>
>Brooks

"University's?"

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

B2431
August 26th 04, 07:42 PM
>From: "Steven P. McNicoll"
>Date: 8/26/2004 1:06 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: et>
>
>
>"John Carrier" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> Mostly true. The civil rights amendment was passed through a Democratic
>> congress under the urging of Good Ole Boy Lyndon Johnson (who
>> accomplished something his predecessor could not).
>>
>
>Earlier civil rights legislation didn't pass because the minority
>Republicans sponsoring it couldn't get enough Democrats to support it. It
>passed in 1964 because enough Democrats finally supported it.

Correct mostly because LBJ had a lot more clout than most people give him
credit for. The man knew how and when to fight dirty.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Kerry The Liar Loves Waffles
August 26th 04, 09:06 PM
On 26 Aug 2004 14:06:46 GMT, s7ven >
wrote:

>Eris said...
>
>> Al thought I was amazed in the Army of how ignorant some people who
>> had degrees from some southern colleges were.
>
>As well as people from Northern Colleges. Poor education is not just a
>regional thing.
>
>I love how people try to be elitists based on their region.
>
>-s7ven

heh.. even a person with a good education can be a dumbass. :)

George Shirley
August 26th 04, 09:12 PM
B2431 wrote:
>>From: "Steven P. McNicoll"
>>Date: 8/26/2004 1:06 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: et>
>>
>>
>>"John Carrier" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Mostly true. The civil rights amendment was passed through a Democratic
>>>congress under the urging of Good Ole Boy Lyndon Johnson (who
>>>accomplished something his predecessor could not).
>>>
>>
>>Earlier civil rights legislation didn't pass because the minority
>>Republicans sponsoring it couldn't get enough Democrats to support it. It
>>passed in 1964 because enough Democrats finally supported it.
>
>
> Correct mostly because LBJ had a lot more clout than most people give him
> credit for. The man knew how and when to fight dirty.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

And, from understudying Sam Rayburn, aka "Mr. Sam", he knew where all
the bodies were buried and wasn't afraid to use that knowledge. LBJ
really knew how to use "dirty politics" well.

George, Native Texan

George Graves
August 26th 04, 09:47 PM
In article >,
s7ven > wrote:

> Eris said...
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> > On 26 Aug 2004 13:58:20 GMT, s7ven >
> > wrote:
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> >>Gactimus said...
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> >>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:21:32 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Eris" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:05:14 -0400, Gactimus >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >"I remember well April 1968 -- I was serving in Vietnam -- a
> >>>>> >place of violence -- when the news reports brought home to me and
> >>>>> >my crewmates the violence back home -- and the tragic news that
> >>>>> >one of the bullets flying that terrible spring took the life of
> >>>>> >that unabashedly maladjusted citizen."
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >-- John Kerry, on Martin Luther King's assasination. Trouble is
> >>>>> >that
> >>>>Kerry
> >>>>> > wasn't in Vietnam until November 1968.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This will attrack a lot of Republican voters in the south, they
> >>>>> will vote for Kerry in droves when this gets out.
> >>>>> Thanks for the heads up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Why would that be?
> >>>>
> >>> "and the tragic news that one of the bullets
> >>> flying that terrible spring took the life of that unabashedly
> >>> maladjusted citizen."
> >>>
> >>> Southern whites tend to be Republican and HATE Martin Luther King.
> >>
> >>You obviously haven't been anywhere near the South. The people who are
> >>racist are racist regardless of their political affiliation. I'm on
> >>the conservative side and I think that MLK was one of the greatest
> >>speakers of this century who fought for what he believed in. Hate to
> >>say it but most of the uneducated backwoods racist people down here
> >>(whether white or black) seem to be Democrats.
> >>
> >>Not saything that all racists are Democrats or all Democrats are
> >>racists, just noting a trend down here in Georgia.
> >>
> >>-s7ven
> >
> > I stand corrected and apologize.
>
> Like I said, could be just a trend in Georgia. I've pretty much lived all
> over the state; from the peanut farming south to Hotlanta where I
> currently reside.
>
> Who knows?
>
> -s7ven

Well in the South, there is a long tradition of calling oneself a
Democrat, even though politically, one might be slightly to the right of
Attila the Hun. The reason for these so-called 'Dixiecrats' stems from
the fact that Abraham Lincoln, and more importantly, Andrew Johnson,
were Republicans. Republicans who were in power when the War of Northern
Aggression started and continued with Reconstruction.

So I wouldn't put a lot of stock in a Southern racist calling themselves
'Democrats.'

--
George Graves
------------------

Bush is a poor leader because he isn't very smart.
What's Kerry's excuse gonna be?

Steven P. McNicoll
August 26th 04, 09:51 PM
"George Graves" > wrote in message
...
>
> Well in the South, there is a long tradition of calling oneself a
> Democrat, even though politically, one might be slightly to the right of
> Attila the Hun. The reason for these so-called 'Dixiecrats' stems from
> the fact that Abraham Lincoln, and more importantly, Andrew Johnson,
> were Republicans.
>

Andrew Johnson was a Democrat.


>
> Republicans who were in power when the War of Northern
> Aggression started and continued with Reconstruction.
>

A curious name for a war that began when CSA guns fired on Fort Sumter.

B2431
August 26th 04, 10:03 PM
>From: George Shirley
>Date: 8/26/2004 3:12 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>B2431 wrote:
>>>From: "Steven P. McNicoll"
>>>Date: 8/26/2004 1:06 PM Central Daylight Time
>>>Message-id: et>
>>>
>>>
>>>"John Carrier" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>Mostly true. The civil rights amendment was passed through a Democratic
>>>>congress under the urging of Good Ole Boy Lyndon Johnson (who
>>>>accomplished something his predecessor could not).
>>>>
>>>
>>>Earlier civil rights legislation didn't pass because the minority
>>>Republicans sponsoring it couldn't get enough Democrats to support it. It
>>>passed in 1964 because enough Democrats finally supported it.
>>
>>
>> Correct mostly because LBJ had a lot more clout than most people give him
>> credit for. The man knew how and when to fight dirty.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
>And, from understudying Sam Rayburn, aka "Mr. Sam", he knew where all
>the bodies were buried and wasn't afraid to use that knowledge. LBJ
>really knew how to use "dirty politics" well.
>
>George, Native Texan

I get the feeling Rayburn was Machiavelli reincarnated.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

George Shirley
August 26th 04, 11:02 PM
B2431 wrote:
>>From: George Shirley
>>Date: 8/26/2004 3:12 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>B2431 wrote:
>>
>>>>From: "Steven P. McNicoll"
>>>>Date: 8/26/2004 1:06 PM Central Daylight Time
>>>>Message-id: et>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John Carrier" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Mostly true. The civil rights amendment was passed through a Democratic
>>>>>congress under the urging of Good Ole Boy Lyndon Johnson (who
>>>>>accomplished something his predecessor could not).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Earlier civil rights legislation didn't pass because the minority
>>>>Republicans sponsoring it couldn't get enough Democrats to support it. It
>>>>passed in 1964 because enough Democrats finally supported it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Correct mostly because LBJ had a lot more clout than most people give him
>>>credit for. The man knew how and when to fight dirty.
>>>
>>>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>
>>And, from understudying Sam Rayburn, aka "Mr. Sam", he knew where all
>>the bodies were buried and wasn't afraid to use that knowledge. LBJ
>>really knew how to use "dirty politics" well.
>>
>>George, Native Texan
>
>
> I get the feeling Rayburn was Machiavelli reincarnated.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

My Dad introduced me to Mr. Sam at a rally in my home town. After I
shook hands with him Dad told me I had better count my fingers real
quick. We all three laughed and Mr. Sam took no umbrage at the remark.
Particularly as Dad introduced me as his "Republican son." Dad was a
Yaller Dawg Democrat all his life. <VBG>

George

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