EC-121s over SEA

[Zajcevi]

Officialy Big/ College Eye have been credited with participating on 25
kills. So far I have been able to identify only 17, see bellow:

1. 10.7.1965; 45/ 2 AD; F-4C; T. Roberts/ R. Anderson; MiG-17; EC-121D

2. 10.7.1965; 45/ 2 AD; F-4C; K. Holcombe/ A. Clark; MiG-17;EC-121D

3. 6.1.1967; 555/ 8 TFW; F-4C; R. Pascoe/ N. Wells; MiG-21; EC-121D

4. 6.1.1967; 555/ 8 TFW; F-4C; T. Hirsch/ R. Strasswimer; MiG-21;
EC-121D

5. 24.10.1967; 433/ 8 TFW; F-4D; W. Kirk/ T. Bongartz; MiG-21;
EC-121D+QRC-248

6. 26.10.1967; 555/ 8 TFW; F-4D; J. Longeman Jr./ J. McCoy; MiG-21;
EC-121D+QRC-248

7. 26.10.1967; 555/ 8 TFW; F-4D; W. Gordon III/ J. Monsees; MiG-17;
EC-
121D+QRC-248

8. 26.10.1967; 555/ 8 TFW; F-4D; L. Cobb/ A. Lavoy;
MiG-17;EC-121D+QRC-248

9. 5.2.1968; 14/ 432 TFW; F-4D; R. Hill/ B. Huneke; MiG-21;
EC-121D+QRC-248

10. 6.2.1968; 433/ 8 TFW; F-4D; R. Boles/ R. Battista; MiG-21;
EC-121D+QRC-248

11. 14.2.1968; 555/ 8 TFW; F-4D; R. Howerton/ T. Voight; MiG-17;
EC-121K Rivet Top

12. 14.2.1968; 435/ 8 TFW; F-4D;D. Williams Jr./ J. Feighny Jr.;
MiG-17;EC-121K Rivet Top

13. 8.7.1972; 555/ 432 TR; F-4E; S. Ritchie/ C. DeBellevue; MiG-21;
EC-121T

14. 8.7.1972; 555/ 432 TRW; F-4E; S. Ritchie/ C. DeBellevue; MiG-21;
EC-121T

15. 28.8.1972; 555/ 432 TRW; F-4D; S. Ritchie/ C. DeBellevue;
MiG-21;EC-121T

16. 5.10.1972; 34/ 388 TFW; F-4E; R. Coe/ O. Webb; MiG-21; EC-121T

17. 7.1.1973; 4/ 432 TRW; F-4D; P. Howman/ L. Kullman; MiG-21; EC-121T

Missing 8 kills should be in 1966-1968 period.
Do you know also these kills? (also is the list in this form OK?)

Cheers
Ivan

[Robey Price]

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, Zajcevi
confessed the following:

>Officialy Big/ College Eye have been credited with participating on 25
>kills. So far I have been able to identify only 17, see bellow:

What exactly (or roughly) constitutes "participating?" I'd think that
EC-121s "participated" in most if not all kills simply from the POV of
making "yellow/red" MiG warnings, even before the improvements in EID
of specific MiG types.

>6. 26.10.1967; 555/ 8 TFW; F-4D; J. Longeman Jr./ J. McCoy; MiG-21;
>EC-121D+QRC-248

Minor typo, it's J Logeman not Longeman...

>9. 5.2.1968; 14/ 432 TFW; F-4D; R. Hill/ B. Huneke; MiG-21;

Minor typo, it's 13/432 TRW...the 14th was an RF-4C squadron

>Do you know also these kills? (also is the list in this form OK?)

This should be an interesting thread....

Robey

[Zajcevi]

Robey Price > wrote in message >...
> >Officialy Big/ College Eye have been credited with participating on 25
> >kills. So far I have been able to identify only 17, see bellow:
>
> What exactly (or roughly) constitutes "participating?" I'd think that
> EC-121s "participated" in most if not all kills simply from the POV of
> making "yellow/red" MiG warnings, even before the improvements in EID
> of specific MiG types.

The number 25 was given on 552nd web-page among with other statistic
info. Sadly conditions for "participing" were not specified.
As I understand it, participing should include vectoring own fighters
to attack VPAF MiGs. Not only "full service" vectoring to the point
when radar or visual contact could be made, but also kills when
initiall info of MiG position led to the consequent searching made by
US fighter crews alone and finished with a kill.

> >6. 26.10.1967; 555/ 8 TFW; F-4D; J. Longeman Jr./ J. McCoy; MiG-21;
> >EC-121D+QRC-248
>
> Minor typo, it's J Logeman not Longeman...
>
> >9. 5.2.1968; 14/ 432 TFW; F-4D; R. Hill/ B. Huneke; MiG-21;
>
> Minor typo, it's 13/432 TRW...the 14th was an RF-4C squadron

Thanks for corrections, have to check my files.
Any additions to my list?

Cheers
Ivan