Re: deal with it - - AWOL

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: deal with it - - AWOL
>From: (Transition Zone)
>Date: 9/6/2004 6:27 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>BUSH was PROVEN to be AWOL
>
(Jb0024) wrote in message
>...
>> >Subject: Re: bush: impossible to be AWOL (do vets give a sh!t)
>> >From: PM
>>
>> >Anytime you see the word "awol" in this context you KNOW
>> >>you are being lied to -- it is technically IMPOSSIBLE to be
>> >>awol from the Guard when not activated for Federal service.
>> >>
>> >And that is a fact.
>> >
>> FACT: Kerry went to vietnam.
>>
>> Bush did not go. those are the facts!

Kerry went to war.I went to war. Bush and Cheney avoided war. Therefore both
Kerry and I are better men than Bush and Cheney.



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Keith Willshaw]

"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: deal with it - - AWOL

>
> Kerry went to war.I went to war. Bush and Cheney avoided war. Therefore
both
> Kerry and I are better men than Bush and Cheney.
>

Replace the word 'Kerry' with 'Benedict Arnold' , 'Tim McVeigh' or 'Adolf
Hitler'
and see how much sense it makes.

Keith




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[chahta]

Peter Skelton wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:03:07 -0400, Righteous Nation
> > wrote:
>
>
>>In article >,
>>"BigRedWingsFan" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sorry, wrong again, but thanks for playing. Since you obviously never
>>>served you might want to run on down to your local National Guard armory or
>>>Army Reserve center and ask for an education in the UCMJ and what
>>>constitutes AWOL.
>>
>>Bush cheated, through corrupt "privilege," to evade the honor of service
>>to the country and U.S. Constitution at time of war, and is, therefore
>>no-man.
>
>
> Please post your proof of service to
> alt.binaries.pictures.military
>
> Peter Skelton


Damn! why don't you pecerwoods get a real life and post something that
MAY have some relevance?

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
>
> Kerry went to war.I went to war. Bush and Cheney avoided war. Therefore
> both
> Kerry and I are better men than Bush and Cheney.
>

Edwards avoided war.

[B2431]

>From: Righteous Nation
>Date: 9/6/2004 11:03 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>
>
>In article >,
> "BigRedWingsFan" > wrote:
>
>> Sorry, wrong again, but thanks for playing. Since you obviously never
>> served you might want to run on down to your local National Guard armory or
>> Army Reserve center and ask for an education in the UCMJ and what
>> constitutes AWOL.
>
>Bush cheated, through corrupt "privilege," to evade the honor of service
>to the country and U.S. Constitution at time of war, and is, therefore
>no-man.

Serving in the Guard IS service to the country, genius.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[B2431]

>From: (ArtKramr)

>
>>Subject: deal with it - - AWOL
>>From: (Transition Zone)
>>Date: 9/6/2004 6:27 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>BUSH was PROVEN to be AWOL
>>
(Jb0024) wrote in message
>...
>>> >Subject: Re: bush: impossible to be AWOL (do vets give a sh!t)
>>> >From: PM
>>>
>>> >Anytime you see the word "awol" in this context you KNOW
>>> >>you are being lied to -- it is technically IMPOSSIBLE to be
>>> >>awol from the Guard when not activated for Federal service.
>>> >>
>>> >And that is a fact.
>>> >
>>> FACT: Kerry went to vietnam.
>>>
>>> Bush did not go. those are the facts!
>
>Kerry went to war.I went to war. Bush and Cheney avoided war. Therefore both
>Kerry and I are better men than Bush and Cheney.
>
>
>
>Arthur Kramer


Congratulations, you just put yourself in the same category as Tim McVeigh and
Bennedict Arnold. After all THEY served in combat and your theory is that makes
them and you better men than anyone else.

In WW1 black Americans were not allowed to fight under the American Flag. Those
who fought did so under the French flag. Were the blacks who volunteered to
fight and were not permitted to do so any less of men than you? How about in
WW2 where the military resisted sending black men in to combat by sending them
to labour battalions when they would rather fight? How about Americans of
Japanese descent who tried to go to war but weren't permitted until the
formation of the 442 RCT? According to you any man who didn't fight was a
lesser man than you, how about those who were not ALLOWED to fight?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[chahta]

Jean wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 08:48:45 -0500, PM >
> wrote:
>
>
>>On 6 Sep 2004 06:27:22 -0700, (Transition Zone)
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>BUSH was PROVEN to be AWOL
>>
>>Lying mother****er
>
>
> Proof
>
> http://www.propagandamatrix.com/141003bushfamilyfortunes.html
> http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/090204W.shtml
>
> "As people do better, they start voting like Republicans
> - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic,
> which proves there can be too much of a good thing."
>
> Karl Rove {Bush's Brain}
>
> Bush AGAIN Says the Rich Can't Be Taxed
> On 8-9-04 in Virginia, Bush said it was pointless to
> make the rich pay their fair share of taxes because
> "the really rich people figure out how to dodge taxes
> anyway."
> George W Bush
>
>
>


Damned bunch of IDIOTS! PLONK

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: deal with it - - AWOL
>From: "Dave Thompson"
>Date: 9/7/2004 7:39 AM Pacific Standard Time

>Not at all. Go back and read the OP's contention that the ketchup queen has
>a "...fortune worth billions on which she pays minimal taxes." Nothing was
>said about inheritance or capit

She pays minimnal taxes because the neocons set the tax code so the very
wealthy pay nothing. Blame yourself, no one else.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Jarg]

"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Re: deal with it - - AWOL
>>From: "Dave Thompson"
>>Date: 9/7/2004 7:39 AM Pacific Standard Time
>
>>Not at all. Go back and read the OP's contention that the ketchup queen
>>has
>>a "...fortune worth billions on which she pays minimal taxes." Nothing
>>was
>>said about inheritance or capit
>
> She pays minimnal taxes because the neocons set the tax code so the very
> wealthy pay nothing. Blame yourself, no one else.
>
>

Do you really believe this nonsense? The wealthy can afford the best tax
advise and so are able to better avoid taxes. The top rate is 35% but Mrs.
Heinz only paid a fraction of that last year and nothing her husband has
offered to do would change that.

And why do you insist on using the neocon label when you can't even
accurately define it?

Jarg

[Cub Driver]

>So, the capital gains tax on investments doesn't apply if you invest
>money you've earned and already paid tax on? Or the inheritance tax
>doesn't tax the estate you've built with money that you earned and
>already paid tax on?

Note that the vast majority of Heinz-Kerry's estimated $50 million
annual income is not taxed at all, not as income and not by the estate
tax, since it is neatly socked away in trusts that she controls.
Kerry's tax proposals wouldn't take a dime of his or his wife's money.
They are so structured as to hit the productive or thrifty citizen who
are merely affluent, and will do nothing to inconvenience the
super-rich, including Kerry, who if elected will be the richest man
ever to serve as president of the United States.

As for the subject of this thread, my study of Bush's military service
is posted at www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm


all the best -- Dan Ford
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[B2431]

>From: "Bob Coe"
>Date: 9/9/2004 5:20 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <2H40d.21016$ni.4911@okepread01>


>
>"Did you know that McCartney was in another band
>before Wings!!?" -- Overheard at the Malt shop
>from a young teen during the 80's...
>

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[B2431]

>From: (B2431)
>Date: 9/9/2004 5:36 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>>From: "Bob Coe"
>>Date: 9/9/2004 5:20 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <2H40d.21016$ni.4911@okepread01>
>
>
>>
>>"Did you know that McCartney was in another band
>>before Wings!!?" -- Overheard at the Malt shop
>>from a young teen during the 80's...
>>

That should have been "the Quarrymen."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>

[B2431]

(Moorehead Johnson)
>Date: 9/12/2004 2:56 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
(WalterM140) wrote in message
>...
>> The best thing Bush's defenders can say is that he did the absolute
>> minimum to fulfill his obligation.
>>
>> There is strong circumstantial evidence that Bush was actually
>> declared a dserter.
>>
>> http://www.awolbush.com
>>
>> Walt
>
>There certainly is plenty of evidence in your post that you're a moron.
>
>MJ

He's made that abundantly clear in all his posts. He has made it it abundantly
clear he never served in the military since he has no idea how the system
works. He lied about his military service so we should expect lies about the
rest of hid BS.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired