When will the war against terrorism begin?

[ArtKramr]

Two nations clearly culpable in 9/11 are Iran and Saudi Arabia. Iraq is an
irrelevant diversion. Therefore at this time the war against terrorism has not
yet begun. Will the neocons ever launch a war against terrorism?




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
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[Bob Coe]

"ArtKramr" > wrote
> Will the neocons ever launch a war against terrorism?

What's a neocon?

[B2431]

>From: "Bob Coe"
>Date: 9/11/2004 7:56 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <09N0d.23998$ni.15738@okepread01>
>
>"ArtKramr" > wrote
>> Will the neocons ever launch a war against terrorism?
>
>What's a neocon?

In another thread he defined "neocon" as Democrats. Look at the thread he
started about the forgeries.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Bob Coe]

"B2431" > wrote
> >From: "Bob Coe"
>>Date: 9/11/2004 7:56 PM Central Daylight Time
>>
>>"ArtKramr" > wrote
>>> Will the neocons ever launch a war against terrorism?
>>
>>What's a neocon?
>
> In another thread he defined "neocon" as Democrats. Look at the thread he
> started about the forgeries.

I'm sure it means something to him (like "idiot" maybe), but he doesn't
appreciate the fuller definition, which has very little use in being a
derogatory. Calling someone a neocon is like calling someone a
liberal. It's not a derogatory. If someone called me a liberal, I would
probably have to step back and analyze why they got that idea. Calling
me a neocon just doesn't even register. A neo-conservative is just not
something equivalent to any social disease he is attributing to it.

Weird. I guess it is something we will experience when we get too old
to manipulate words, and get down to one sentence postings...

[Pooh Bear]

ArtKramr wrote:

> Two nations clearly culpable in 9/11 are Iran and Saudi Arabia.

How were these *nations* culpable ?

Nationals for sure - as in citizens of those countries. But the whole country ?

> Iraq is an irrelevant diversion.

Because it was uninvolved.

> Therefore at this time the war against terrorism has not
> yet begun. Will the neocons ever launch a war against terrorism?

Do you wish to wage war on an abstract noun ?

You can win a war against a country ( and its armed forces ).

How do you propose to wage war on certain ppls *beliefs* ? When you can find a
solution for that - there'll be no more war nor need for it.

Don't forget - in WW2 - the French Resistance were terrorists to the Germans but
heroes to the Allies - just depends on your perspective.

History has many lessons.


Graham

[Jack G]

"> In another thread he defined "neocon" as Democrats. Look at the thread he
> started about the forgeries.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Too funny! and right on Dan!

Actually, I think neocon is one of the words his "professor" must use so Art
thinks it will give him credibility if he uses it too.

Jack G.

[Ragnar]

"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...

>Therefore at this time the war against terrorism has not
> yet begun. Will the neocons ever launch a war against terrorism?

You forgot about Afghanistan. Of course, with your political bias, you
meant to.

[John Kunkel]

"Pooh Bear" > wrote in message
...
>
> ArtKramr wrote:
>
> > Two nations clearly culpable in 9/11 are Iran and Saudi Arabia.
>
> How were these *nations* culpable ?
>
> Nationals for sure - as in citizens of those countries. But the whole
country ?
>
> > Iraq is an irrelevant diversion.
>
> Because it was uninvolved.
>
> > Therefore at this time the war against terrorism has not
> > yet begun. Will the neocons ever launch a war against terrorism?
>
> Do you wish to wage war on an abstract noun ?
>
> You can win a war against a country ( and its armed forces ).
>
> How do you propose to wage war on certain ppls *beliefs* ? When you can
find a
> solution for that - there'll be no more war nor need for it.
>
> Don't forget - in WW2 - the French Resistance were terrorists to the
Germans but
> heroes to the Allies - just depends on your perspective.
>
> History has many lessons.
>
>
> Graham
>

Graham (Pooh Bear) is one of the few with a realistic view.

[Denyav]

>Two nations clearly culpable in 9/11 are Iran and Saudi Arabia. Iraq is an
>irrelevant diversion. Therefore at this time the war against terrorism has
>not
>yet begun. Will the neocons ever launch a war against terrorism?

The Great Game players first choose Great Game area then their proxies not
other way around.

Oil Regions of Middle East and Central Asia have been chosen as next Great Game
playing grounds in 70 and 80s .(There are several reasons for that)

Only after Game Area selected AL-Queda and other Islamic terror organizations
have been selected as proxies.

So,why IRA ,ETA, and other terrorist organizations were not selected as proxy?

Simple your target area is predominanly islamic.
If Ireland chosen as target then IRA would be an excellent proxy.

I think in Iraq everything is going according to Anglo master plan
sofar,including so called Sadr uprising ,but the success of Iraq operation will
ultimately depend on whether Anglos will be able to occupy and control a
corridor between Kurdish regions in the North and Mediterranean Sea.