Air Force Museum At Elgin?

[John A. Weeks III]

The US Air Force has a somewhat little known but a fantastic
gem of a museum just outside of the main gates to Elgin Air
Force Base just east of Pensacola, Florida. Anyone know how
this museum survived the hurricane? Given all the damage at
NAS Pensacola, one might fear the worst since many of the
aircraft were displayed outdoors.

-john-

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[Steven P. McNicoll]

"John A. Weeks III" > wrote in message
...
>
> The US Air Force has a somewhat little known but a fantastic
> gem of a museum just outside of the main gates to Elgin Air
> Force Base just east of Pensacola, Florida. Anyone know how
> this museum survived the hurricane? Given all the damage at
> NAS Pensacola, one might fear the worst since many of the
> aircraft were displayed outdoors.
>

It's Eglin. Eglin Air Force Base, not Elgin.

[frank may]

That would be EGlin AFB.




"John A. Weeks III" > wrote in message >...
> The US Air Force has a somewhat little known but a fantastic
> gem of a museum just outside of the main gates to Elgin Air
> Force Base just east of Pensacola, Florida. Anyone know how
> this museum survived the hurricane? Given all the damage at
> NAS Pensacola, one might fear the worst since many of the
> aircraft were displayed outdoors.
>
> -john-

[B2431]

>From: "John A. Weeks III"
>Date: 9/18/2004 12:27 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>The US Air Force has a somewhat little known but a fantastic
>gem of a museum just outside of the main gates to Elgin Air
>Force Base just east of Pensacola, Florida. Anyone know how
>this museum survived the hurricane? Given all the damage at
>NAS Pensacola, one might fear the worst since many of the
>aircraft were displayed outdoors.
>
>-john-

I only got my power back a couple of hours ago and have been too busy to go
look. I'll make a trip over there later today and let you know.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[B2431]

>From: (B2431)
>Date: 9/19/2004 11:09 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>>From: "John A. Weeks III"
>>Date: 9/18/2004 12:27 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>The US Air Force has a somewhat little known but a fantastic
>>gem of a museum just outside of the main gates to Elgin Air
>>Force Base just east of Pensacola, Florida. Anyone know how
>>this museum survived the hurricane? Given all the damage at
>>NAS Pensacola, one might fear the worst since many of the
>>aircraft were displayed outdoors.
>>
>>-john-
>
>I only got my power back a couple of hours ago and have been too busy to go
>look. I'll make a trip over there later today and let you know.
>
>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

The F-104's gear has collapsed, nothing repacking and servicing couldn't cure.
The RF-4C's left wing wasn't locked down so it folded up. Assuming it wasn't a
major slam it willeasily be lowered. The only aircraft that appears damaged is
the B-17G. A tree landed on it's right wing tip. The tree is obscuring the tip,
but I can't imagine anything serious was done.

I don't know about inside since it is not open. There is a piece of roofing
membrane and several pieces of corrugated steel on the grounds so who knows.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Kyle Boatright]

>
> The F-104's gear has collapsed, nothing repacking and servicing couldn't
> cure.
> The RF-4C's left wing wasn't locked down so it folded up. Assuming it
> wasn't a
> major slam it willeasily be lowered. The only aircraft that appears
> damaged is
> the B-17G. A tree landed on it's right wing tip. The tree is obscuring the
> tip,
> but I can't imagine anything serious was done.
>
> I don't know about inside since it is not open. There is a piece of
> roofing
> membrane and several pieces of corrugated steel on the grounds so who
> knows.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>

Amazing. Doesn't the museum have a U-2 and a B-57F parked outside. I'd
have thought those low wing loading and built to razor thin structural
margin airframes would have been damaged. Glad that doesn't seem to be the
case? Do they still have an SR?

KB

[John A. Weeks III]

In article >, Kyle Boatright
> wrote:

> Amazing. Doesn't the museum have a U-2 and a B-57F parked outside. I'd
> have thought those low wing loading and built to razor thin structural
> margin airframes would have been damaged. Glad that doesn't seem to be the
> case? Do they still have an SR?

The SR-71 is 61-7959, the so-called "big tail" version due
to having a larger tail pod than the other Blackbirds.

-john-

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[B2431]

>From: "Kyle Boatright"
>Date: 9/20/2004 9:47 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>>
>> The F-104's gear has collapsed, nothing repacking and servicing couldn't
>> cure.
>> The RF-4C's left wing wasn't locked down so it folded up. Assuming it
>> wasn't a
>> major slam it willeasily be lowered. The only aircraft that appears
>> damaged is
>> the B-17G. A tree landed on it's right wing tip. The tree is obscuring the
>> tip,
>> but I can't imagine anything serious was done.
>>
>> I don't know about inside since it is not open. There is a piece of
>> roofing
>> membrane and several pieces of corrugated steel on the grounds so who
>> knows.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>
>
>Amazing. Doesn't the museum have a U-2 and a B-57F parked outside. I'd
>have thought those low wing loading and built to razor thin structural
>margin airframes would have been damaged. Glad that doesn't seem to be the
>case? Do they still have an SR?
>
>KB

The SR-71 longtail is still there and looks healthy. They never had a U-2 since
they can't drop bombs or fire guns. It's an the Armament Museum. I can't
remember which model of B-57 it is, but I don't think it's a stretch wing.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
(B2431) wrote:

> >From: "Kyle Boatright"
> >Date: 9/20/2004 9:47 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The F-104's gear has collapsed, nothing repacking and servicing couldn't
> >> cure.
> >> The RF-4C's left wing wasn't locked down so it folded up. Assuming it
> >> wasn't a
> >> major slam it willeasily be lowered. The only aircraft that appears
> >> damaged is
> >> the B-17G. A tree landed on it's right wing tip. The tree is obscuring the
> >> tip,
> >> but I can't imagine anything serious was done.
> >>
> >> I don't know about inside since it is not open. There is a piece of
> >> roofing
> >> membrane and several pieces of corrugated steel on the grounds so who
> >> knows.
> >>
> >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> >>
> >
> >Amazing. Doesn't the museum have a U-2 and a B-57F parked outside. I'd
> >have thought those low wing loading and built to razor thin structural
> >margin airframes would have been damaged. Glad that doesn't seem to be the
> >case? Do they still have an SR?
> >
> >KB
>
> The SR-71 longtail is still there and looks healthy. They never had a U-2
> since
> they can't drop bombs or fire guns. It's an the Armament Museum. I can't
> remember which model of B-57 it is, but I don't think it's a stretch wing.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

IIRC, they also have a B-47 at the Armaments Museum. The SOF also have a
museum at Hurlburt Field, which probably took more damage than Eglin.

[B2431]

>From: Orval Fairbairn
>Date: 9/21/2004 1:12 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>
>
>In article >,
> (B2431) wrote:
>
>> >From: "Kyle Boatright"
>> >Date: 9/20/2004 9:47 PM Central Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The F-104's gear has collapsed, nothing repacking and servicing couldn't
>
>> >> cure.
>> >> The RF-4C's left wing wasn't locked down so it folded up. Assuming it
>> >> wasn't a
>> >> major slam it willeasily be lowered. The only aircraft that appears
>> >> damaged is
>> >> the B-17G. A tree landed on it's right wing tip. The tree is obscuring
>the
>> >> tip,
>> >> but I can't imagine anything serious was done.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know about inside since it is not open. There is a piece of
>> >> roofing
>> >> membrane and several pieces of corrugated steel on the grounds so who
>> >> knows.
>> >>
>> >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>> >>
>> >
>> >Amazing. Doesn't the museum have a U-2 and a B-57F parked outside. I'd
>> >have thought those low wing loading and built to razor thin structural
>> >margin airframes would have been damaged. Glad that doesn't seem to be
>the
>> >case? Do they still have an SR?
>> >
>> >KB
>>
>> The SR-71 longtail is still there and looks healthy. They never had a U-2
>> since
>> they can't drop bombs or fire guns. It's an the Armament Museum. I can't
>> remember which model of B-57 it is, but I don't think it's a stretch wing.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
>IIRC, they also have a B-47 at the Armaments Museum. The SOF also have a
>museum at Hurlburt Field, which probably took more damage than Eglin.
>

The B-47 looks OK. I suspect it will be a week or so before I get to Hurlburt.
Traffic is madness.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[matheson31]

Hurlburt's AirPark took some serious damage. The Porter was overturned and
the O-2 is missing.

Les Matheson
F-4C(WW)/D/E/G(WW), AC-130A, MC-130E WSO/EWO (ret)


"B2431" > wrote in message
...
> >From: Orval Fairbairn
> >Date: 9/21/2004 1:12 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id:
> >
> >
> >In article >,
> > (B2431) wrote:
> >
> >> >From: "Kyle Boatright"
> >> >Date: 9/20/2004 9:47 PM Central Daylight Time
> >> >Message-id: >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> The F-104's gear has collapsed, nothing repacking and servicing
couldn't
> >
> >> >> cure.
> >> >> The RF-4C's left wing wasn't locked down so it folded up. Assuming
it
> >> >> wasn't a
> >> >> major slam it willeasily be lowered. The only aircraft that appears
> >> >> damaged is
> >> >> the B-17G. A tree landed on it's right wing tip. The tree is
obscuring
> >the
> >> >> tip,
> >> >> but I can't imagine anything serious was done.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know about inside since it is not open. There is a piece of
> >> >> roofing
> >> >> membrane and several pieces of corrugated steel on the grounds so
who
> >> >> knows.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Amazing. Doesn't the museum have a U-2 and a B-57F parked outside.
I'd
> >> >have thought those low wing loading and built to razor thin structural
> >> >margin airframes would have been damaged. Glad that doesn't seem to
be
> >the
> >> >case? Do they still have an SR?
> >> >
> >> >KB
> >>
> >> The SR-71 longtail is still there and looks healthy. They never had a
U-2
> >> since
> >> they can't drop bombs or fire guns. It's an the Armament Museum. I
can't
> >> remember which model of B-57 it is, but I don't think it's a stretch
wing.
> >>
> >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> >
> >IIRC, they also have a B-47 at the Armaments Museum. The SOF also have a
> >museum at Hurlburt Field, which probably took more damage than Eglin.
> >
>
> The B-47 looks OK. I suspect it will be a week or so before I get to
Hurlburt.
> Traffic is madness.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


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[frank may]

The U-2 can't drop bombs or fire guns, but the SR-71 can? Did I miss something?

(B2431) wrote in message >...
> >From: "Kyle Boatright"
> >Date: 9/20/2004 9:47 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The F-104's gear has collapsed, nothing repacking and servicing couldn't
> >> cure.
> >> The RF-4C's left wing wasn't locked down so it folded up. Assuming it
> >> wasn't a
> >> major slam it willeasily be lowered. The only aircraft that appears
> >> damaged is
> >> the B-17G. A tree landed on it's right wing tip. The tree is obscuring the
> >> tip,
> >> but I can't imagine anything serious was done.
> >>
> >> I don't know about inside since it is not open. There is a piece of
> >> roofing
> >> membrane and several pieces of corrugated steel on the grounds so who
> >> knows.
> >>
> >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> >>
> >
> >Amazing. Doesn't the museum have a U-2 and a B-57F parked outside. I'd
> >have thought those low wing loading and built to razor thin structural
> >margin airframes would have been damaged. Glad that doesn't seem to be the
> >case? Do they still have an SR?
> >
> >KB
>
> The SR-71 longtail is still there and looks healthy. They never had a U-2 since
> they can't drop bombs or fire guns. It's an the Armament Museum. I can't
> remember which model of B-57 it is, but I don't think it's a stretch wing.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[B2431]

>From: (frank may)
>Date: 9/23/2004 7:33 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>The U-2 can't drop bombs or fire guns, but the SR-71 can? Did I miss
>something?
>

You know, I really don't know why the SR-71 is here, but I am not complaining.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[RobbelothE]

The O-2 is there. I drove by it yesterday.
Ed

Not Fonda Kerry