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Junior Team 2007
May 10th 10, 08:22 PM
http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=16&vmcchk=1&Itemid=16
Al - Tell us what it can do!
On May 10, 12:22*pm, Junior Team 2007 >
wrote:
> http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=16&vmc....
>
> Al - Tell us what it can do!
Well its a CE5 device with a 12 Channel GPS in it.
You can run on it what ever you want on it bottom line.
I am currently running the LK8000 beta test software on it currently
and really like the software
..
What is interesting is when testing the unit the GPS is accurate
enough IMHO to dispense with all the crazy cabling needed to talk to a
vario system.
The net result its the unit works really well as a self contained unit
all you need to do it connect the unit to 12V power.
More info and photos on http://silentflight.com
Oh and the price is right.. so come on down......
Al
Bastoune
May 11th 10, 03:29 AM
Two quick questions:
What is the screen resolution?
Is there a serial port? If so, has anyone tried to interface with
flight computer or vario?
Thanks!
toad
May 11th 10, 03:56 AM
On May 10, 7:06*pm, " >
wrote:
> On May 10, 12:22*pm, Junior Team 2007 >
> wrote:
>
> >http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=16&vmc...
>
> > Al - Tell us what it can do!
>
> Well its a CE5 device with a 12 Channel GPS in it.
> You can run on it what ever you want on it bottom line.
>
> I am currently running the LK8000 beta test software on it currently
> and really like the software
> .
> What is interesting is when testing the unit the GPS is accurate
> enough IMHO to dispense with all the crazy cabling needed to talk to a
> vario system.
> The net result its the unit works really well as a self contained unit
> all you need to do it connect the unit to 12V power.
>
> More info and photos onhttp://silentflight.com
>
> Oh and the price is right.. so come on down......
>
> Al
What I really want to know. Does it come with a plastic Jesus ?
On May 10, 7:29*pm, Bastoune > wrote:
> Two quick questions:
>
> What is the screen resolution?
> Is there a serial port? If so, has anyone tried to interface with
> flight computer or vario?
>
> Thanks!
Screen res is 800x480 with a 533mhz CPU.
There is a port marked COM that we will be experimenting with to see
if it will take NMEA.
Or you could buy (and we will be supplying shortly) an integration
cable/charging cable that will let you connect an external NMEA feed.
Al
On May 10, 7:56*pm, toad > wrote:
> On May 10, 7:06*pm, " >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 10, 12:22*pm, Junior Team 2007 >
> > wrote:
>
> > >http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=16&vmc...
>
> > > Al - Tell us what it can do!
>
> > Well its a CE5 device with a 12 Channel GPS in it.
> > You can run on it what ever you want on it bottom line.
>
> > I am currently running the LK8000 beta test software on it currently
> > and really like the software
> > .
> > What is interesting is when testing the unit the GPS is accurate
> > enough IMHO to dispense with all the crazy cabling needed to talk to a
> > vario system.
> > The net result its the unit works really well as a self contained unit
> > all you need to do it connect the unit to 12V power.
>
> > More info and photos onhttp://silentflight.com
>
> > Oh and the price is right.. so come on down......
>
> > Al
>
> What I really want to know. Does it come with a plastic Jesus ?
Tell you what Toad you buy one I will send you a plastic Jesus with
it.
Al
Eric Greenwell
May 11th 10, 05:41 AM
On 5/10/2010 9:12 PM, wrote:
> On May 10, 7:29 pm, > wrote:
>
>> Two quick questions:
>>
>> What is the screen resolution?
>> Is there a serial port? If so, has anyone tried to interface with
>> flight computer or vario?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> Screen res is 800x480 with a 533mhz CPU.
>
Sunlight readability compared to an Ipaq 3850?
--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (netto to net to email me)
On May 10, 9:41*pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> On 5/10/2010 9:12 PM, wrote:> On May 10, 7:29 pm, > *wrote:
>
> >> Two quick questions:
>
> >> What is the screen resolution?
> >> Is there a serial port? If so, has anyone tried to interface with
> >> flight computer or vario?
>
> >> Thanks!
>
> > Screen res is 800x480 with a 533mhz CPU.
>
> Sunlight readability compared to an Ipaq 3850?
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (netto to net to email me)
Much better however its hard to define as everyone has their own
opinions about readability.
What is more important is the readability with more screen real
estate.
Cheers
Al
On May 10, 9:53*pm, " >
wrote:
> What is more important is the readability with more screen real
> estate.
>
And a free Plastic Jesus!
http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Gliding/gliding.htm
On May 10, 10:10*pm, JS > wrote:
> On May 10, 9:53*pm, " >
> wrote:
>
> > What is more important is the readability with more screen real
> > estate.
>
> And a free Plastic Jesus!http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Glidin...
Ok Jim, I'll throw in free plastic Jesus upgrade for the first 10
purchasers.
The JPS (Jesus Positioning Unit) will be autographed with a Sharpie by
yours truely.
Al
TRKA
May 11th 10, 06:42 AM
One question
what makes this device so expensive please?
I see a normal cheap chinese Navigation device with no additional
gear.
Also if this is additional gear it will cost about 10$
So lets calculate
Cheap chinese Navigation device : 60-100$
Additional Gear : 10$
Software : 0$ (XCSoar and LK8000) is FREEWARE
On May 10, 10:42*pm, TRKA > wrote:
> One question
>
> what makes this device so expensive please?
>
> I see a normal cheap chinese Navigation device with no additional
> gear.
> Also if this is additional gear it will cost about 10$
>
> So lets calculate
>
> Cheap chinese Navigation device : 60-100$
> Additional Gear : 10$
> Software : 0$ (XCSoar and LK8000) is FREEWARE
There are many different options out there for "cheap chinese
navigators" I chose what I consider to be the best value and
performance.
Then you have configuration setup and support.
Sure anyone can put together the same solution however there are a lot
of pilots out there who want something that is easy to use and works
out the box in their region configured for their glider.
You should ask the other vendors selling similar products at over 2
times the price the same question.
Al
johngalloway[_2_]
May 11th 10, 08:22 AM
On May 11, 6:26*am, " >
wrote:
> On May 10, 10:10*pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > On May 10, 9:53*pm, " >
> > wrote:
>
> > > What is more important is the readability with more screen real
> > > estate.
>
> > And a free Plastic Jesus!http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Glidin...
>
> Ok Jim, I'll throw in free plastic Jesus upgrade for the first 10
> purchasers.
>
> The JPS (Jesus Positioning Unit) will be autographed with a Sharpie by
> yours truely.
>
> Al
Plastic is a bit old hat. I'd expect Jesus to be digitized and to
appear on screen as a pop-up at appropriate times - such as below a
user defined altitude or on a marginal final glide - and I'd expect to
have a choice of prophets and deities for pilots of other faiths - or
for those (like me) who can go through a variety of short term
religious conversions in the course of a single flight.
On May 11, 12:22*am, johngalloway > wrote:
> On May 11, 6:26*am, " >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 10, 10:10*pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > > On May 10, 9:53*pm, " >
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > What is more important is the readability with more screen real
> > > > estate.
>
> > > And a free Plastic Jesus!http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Glidin...
>
> > Ok Jim, I'll throw in free plastic Jesus upgrade for the first 10
> > purchasers.
>
> > The JPS (Jesus Positioning Unit) will be autographed with a Sharpie by
> > yours truely.
>
> > Al
>
> Plastic is a bit old hat. *I'd expect Jesus to be digitized and to
> appear on screen as a pop-up at appropriate times - such as below a
> user defined altitude or on a marginal final glide - and I'd expect to
> have a choice of prophets and deities for pilots of other faiths - or
> for those (like me) who can go through a variety of short term
> religious conversions in the course of a single flight.
All you have to do is rub the head of your JPS.
The Voodoo version ships with a rubber chicken which you can choke
when low..
On May 11, 1:42*am, TRKA > wrote:
> So lets calculate
It's the difference between "an egg" and "breakfast".
-T8
In my experience, XC Soar does't always install easily. Once the
program is running, getting all the files you need (especially
terrain) isn't as simple as with SeeYou PDA or PNA or WinPilot (I've
only installed WP on PDAs). No experience with LK8000. To be honest, I
prefer the $2500 Altair to display XC Soar. Not a touch screen, but
very bright and clear with buttons next to where you would ordinarily
touch. It's necessary to design the panel around it.
There are quite a few cheap Chinese PNAs available in bulk from Hong
Kong, and some even locally as single units. TRKA, how does the less
than $100 unit you bought and configured work? The cheapest ones I've
built would be a Navigon with SeeYouPNA (and a later failure
installing XC Soar on the same device), or a HP 310 with XC Soar. The
Navigon works great, HP too after much suggestion that it's parents
weren't married. It still has no terrain. Neither are particularly
readable.
I heard the XC Soar terrain file generator problem is from having
too large a task area?
Jim
On May 10, 10:42*pm, TRKA > wrote:
> One question
>
> what makes this device so expensive please?
>
> I see a normal cheap chinese Navigation device with no additional
> gear.
> Also if this is additional gear it will cost about 10$
>
> So lets calculate
>
> Cheap chinese Navigation device : 60-100$
> Additional Gear : 10$
> Software : 0$ (XCSoar and LK8000) is FREEWARE
mike
May 11th 10, 08:33 PM
On May 11, 1:15*pm, JS > wrote:
> * In my experience, XC Soar does't always install easily. Once the
> program is running, getting all the files you need (especially
> terrain) isn't as simple as with SeeYou PDA or PNA or WinPilot (I've
> only installed WP on PDAs). No experience with LK8000. To be honest, I
> prefer the $2500 Altair to display XC Soar. Not a touch screen, but
> very bright and clear with buttons next to where you would ordinarily
> touch. It's necessary to design the panel around it.
> * There are quite a few cheap Chinese PNAs available in bulk from Hong
> Kong, and some even locally as single units. TRKA, how does the less
> than $100 unit you bought and configured work? The cheapest ones I've
> built would be a Navigon with SeeYouPNA (and a later failure
> installing XC Soar on the same device), or a HP 310 with XC Soar. The
> Navigon works great, HP too after much suggestion that it's parents
> weren't married. It still has no terrain. Neither are particularly
> readable.
> * I heard the XC Soar terrain file generator problem is from having
> too large a task area?
> Jim
>
> On May 10, 10:42*pm, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > One question
>
> > what makes this device so expensive please?
>
> > I see a normal cheap chinese Navigation device with no additional
> > gear.
> > Also if this is additional gear it will cost about 10$
>
> > So lets calculate
>
> > Cheap chinese Navigation device : 60-100$
> > Additional Gear : 10$
> > Software : 0$ (XCSoar and LK8000) is FREEWARE
Never had a problem installing XCSoar or the terrain data on PDA's or
the MIO C320, which is done by a hack and using a SD card. The MIO is
pretty crummy in daylight though, and Al's statement that his PNA is
better than a HP 39XX in sunlight is interesting. If his device is
indeed more viewable than a 39XX and can be connected to an approved
data logger it becomes a very nice low cost option.
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
May 11th 10, 08:41 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2010 12:15:51 -0700, JS wrote:
> The cheapest ones I've
> built would be a Navigon with SeeYouPNA (and a later failure installing
> XC Soar on the same device),
>
Do you know what OS this Navigon runs? The reason I ask is that I have
currently got two Binatone B350 PNAs:
(a) was made in Dec 2009
It runs XCSoar 5.2.4mk and LK8000a9i.
I think this one runs Windows Mobile 5.
Its s/n starts B3510960...
It goes CLANG-CLANG when it has booted up.
(b) was made in Jan 2010
If won't run either XCSoar 5.2.4mk or LK8000a9i.
I know this one runs Windows Mobile 6.00.
Its s/n starts B3511001...
It plays a bar of music (4 beats) when it has booted up.
Listening to the first noise the B350 makes when its cold started it the
easiest way to know which OS it runs. I don't know if the same applies to
other PNAs but, if this is the default Windows Mobile start up noise,
then probably all WM5/WM6 devices do the same.
--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |
On May 11, 12:33*pm, mike > wrote:
> On May 11, 1:15*pm, JS > wrote:
>
>
>
> > * In my experience, XC Soar does't always install easily. Once the
> > program is running, getting all the files you need (especially
> > terrain) isn't as simple as with SeeYou PDA or PNA or WinPilot (I've
> > only installed WP on PDAs). No experience with LK8000. To be honest, I
> > prefer the $2500 Altair to display XC Soar. Not a touch screen, but
> > very bright and clear with buttons next to where you would ordinarily
> > touch. It's necessary to design the panel around it.
> > * There are quite a few cheap Chinese PNAs available in bulk from Hong
> > Kong, and some even locally as single units. TRKA, how does the less
> > than $100 unit you bought and configured work? The cheapest ones I've
> > built would be a Navigon with SeeYouPNA (and a later failure
> > installing XC Soar on the same device), or a HP 310 with XC Soar. The
> > Navigon works great, HP too after much suggestion that it's parents
> > weren't married. It still has no terrain. Neither are particularly
> > readable.
> > * I heard the XC Soar terrain file generator problem is from having
> > too large a task area?
> > Jim
>
> > On May 10, 10:42*pm, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > > One question
>
> > > what makes this device so expensive please?
>
> > > I see a normal cheap chinese Navigation device with no additional
> > > gear.
> > > Also if this is additional gear it will cost about 10$
>
> > > So lets calculate
>
> > > Cheap chinese Navigation device : 60-100$
> > > Additional Gear : 10$
> > > Software : 0$ (XCSoar and LK8000) is FREEWARE
>
> Never had a problem installing XCSoar or the terrain data on PDA's or
> the MIO C320, which is done by a hack and using a SD card. The MIO is
> pretty crummy in daylight though, and Al's statement that his PNA is
> better than a HP 39XX in sunlight is interesting. If his device is
> indeed more viewable than a 39XX and can be connected to an approved
> data logger it becomes a very nice low cost option.
Meant to post this last night...
added to silentflights facebook page.. screens ipaq 3850 and SFGC side
by side on my desk last night.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=1108700&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=279827717785&aid=-1&id=1497266715
Will see if the iphone's crappy camera can convey the same in bight
sunlight.
Cheers
Al
Tony V
May 12th 10, 02:04 AM
>> What is more important is the readability with more screen real
>> estate.
> And a free Plastic Jesus!
> http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Gliding/gliding.htm
But I *do* care if it rains or freezes. :-)
Tony
What a laugh!
The Navigon is probably a confused version. Single clang, then 2
bars of music.
Thought if I continued trying to put XC Soar on it, there would be the
clang of it hitting the wall.
The database has 700 or so points and covers at least part of 4
western states, which is what I heard was bad for XC Soar terrain
generator.
Jim
On May 11, 12:41*pm, Martin Gregorie >
wrote:
> * * It goes CLANG-CLANG when it has booted up.
PCool
May 12th 10, 02:47 AM
A few questions:
1) Does the JPS work really for finding the way back home?
2) Does it multiplicate the thermals?
3) Does it transform the water ballast into wine ballast ? (this is very
important)
4) Is it certified by the Vatican City Aviation?
5) Is it possible to connect it to a Cambridge?
Thanks ..
Paolo
> ha scritto nel messaggio
...
On May 10, 10:10 pm, JS > wrote:
> On May 10, 9:53 pm, " >
> wrote:
>
> > What is more important is the readability with more screen real
> > estate.
>
> And a free Plastic
> Jesus!http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Glidin...
Ok Jim, I'll throw in free plastic Jesus upgrade for the first 10
purchasers.
The JPS (Jesus Positioning Unit) will be autographed with a Sharpie by
yours truely.
Al
On May 11, 6:47*pm, "PCool" > wrote:
> A few questions:
> 1) Does the JPS work really for finding the way back home?
> 2) Does it multiplicate the thermals?
> 3) Does it transform the water ballast into wine ballast ? (this is very
> important)
> 4) Is it certified by the Vatican City Aviation?
> 5) Is it possible to connect it to a Cambridge?
>
> Thanks ..
> Paolo
>
> > ha scritto nel ...
> On May 10, 10:10 pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > On May 10, 9:53 pm, " >
> > wrote:
>
> > > What is more important is the readability with more screen real
> > > estate.
>
> > And a free Plastic
> > Jesus!http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Glidin...
>
> Ok Jim, I'll throw in free plastic Jesus upgrade for the first 10
> purchasers.
>
> The JPS (Jesus Positioning Unit) will be autographed with a Sharpie by
> yours truely.
>
> Al
First of all Paolo your work on the LK8000 is fantastic.
I think what you have created especially with the latest release is
absolutely amazing.
Cant wait to see the full release version out.
I urge everyone who is interested in reading the manual here.
http://www.bware.it/LK8000/LK8000_MANUAL_120.pdf
Now in answer to your questions, the JPS unit only works if you trust
in its plastic'ness.
If you do not feel the force from the JPS then it is not going to give
proper direction.
The JPS has not been known to affect thermal size or density but if
you do find yourself low I found it always helped to rub its head.
The water to wine upgrade has not been installed mine as its
experimental and does not carry the Vatican VSO.
I have used it with Cambridge S-Nav quite extensively and you can see
it here pre-take off..
http://web.archive.org/web/20051228095540/silentflight.com/Jesuscockpit.jpg
Here you can see the JPS in action
http://web.archive.org/web/20051228094127/silentflight.com/JesusPanel.jpg
Note it blocks out the S-Nav completely.
The JPS is still the original one given to me by an ex-stripper who
used to work for me after she found religion.
To this day I always carry him in my camelback when flying.
You can see the JPS's last recorded on video sighting here.
http://silentflight.com/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo&Itemid=7&video_id=26
Cheers
Al
TRKA
May 12th 10, 08:53 AM
On 11 Mai, 21:52, " > wrote:
> On May 11, 12:33*pm, mike > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 11, 1:15*pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > > * In my experience, XC Soar does't always install easily. Once the
> > > program is running, getting all the files you need (especially
> > > terrain) isn't as simple as with SeeYou PDA or PNA or WinPilot (I've
> > > only installed WP on PDAs). No experience with LK8000. To be honest, I
> > > prefer the $2500 Altair to display XC Soar. Not a touch screen, but
> > > very bright and clear with buttons next to where you would ordinarily
> > > touch. It's necessary to design the panel around it.
> > > * There are quite a few cheap Chinese PNAs available in bulk from Hong
> > > Kong, and some even locally as single units. TRKA, how does the less
> > > than $100 unit you bought and configured work? The cheapest ones I've
> > > built would be a Navigon with SeeYouPNA (and a later failure
> > > installing XC Soar on the same device), or a HP 310 with XC Soar. The
> > > Navigon works great, HP too after much suggestion that it's parents
> > > weren't married. It still has no terrain. Neither are particularly
> > > readable.
> > > * I heard the XC Soar terrain file generator problem is from having
> > > too large a task area?
> > > Jim
>
> > > On May 10, 10:42*pm, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > > > One question
>
> > > > what makes this device so expensive please?
>
> > > > I see a normal cheap chinese Navigation device with no additional
> > > > gear.
> > > > Also if this is additional gear it will cost about 10$
>
> > > > So lets calculate
>
> > > > Cheap chinese Navigation device : 60-100$
> > > > Additional Gear : 10$
> > > > Software : 0$ (XCSoar and LK8000) is FREEWARE
>
> > Never had a problem installing XCSoar or the terrain data on PDA's or
> > the MIO C320, which is done by a hack and using a SD card. The MIO is
> > pretty crummy in daylight though, and Al's statement that his PNA is
> > better than a HP 39XX in sunlight is interesting. If his device is
> > indeed more viewable than a 39XX and can be connected to an approved
> > data logger it becomes a very nice low cost option.
>
> Meant to post this last night...
>
> added to silentflights facebook page.. screens ipaq 3850 and SFGC side
> by side on my desk last night.http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=1108700&o=all&op=1&view=all&...
>
> Will see if the iphone's crappy camera can convey the same in bight
> sunlight.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al
This is no real test Sorry. Put them outside and let the sun shine on
both displays.
We dont fly in our office or at home, we fly outside you know!
On May 12, 12:53*am, TRKA > wrote:
> On 11 Mai, 21:52, " > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 11, 12:33*pm, mike > wrote:
>
> > > On May 11, 1:15*pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > > > * In my experience, XC Soar does't always install easily. Once the
> > > > program is running, getting all the files you need (especially
> > > > terrain) isn't as simple as with SeeYou PDA or PNA or WinPilot (I've
> > > > only installed WP on PDAs). No experience with LK8000. To be honest, I
> > > > prefer the $2500 Altair to display XC Soar. Not a touch screen, but
> > > > very bright and clear with buttons next to where you would ordinarily
> > > > touch. It's necessary to design the panel around it.
> > > > * There are quite a few cheap Chinese PNAs available in bulk from Hong
> > > > Kong, and some even locally as single units. TRKA, how does the less
> > > > than $100 unit you bought and configured work? The cheapest ones I've
> > > > built would be a Navigon with SeeYouPNA (and a later failure
> > > > installing XC Soar on the same device), or a HP 310 with XC Soar. The
> > > > Navigon works great, HP too after much suggestion that it's parents
> > > > weren't married. It still has no terrain. Neither are particularly
> > > > readable.
> > > > * I heard the XC Soar terrain file generator problem is from having
> > > > too large a task area?
> > > > Jim
>
> > > > On May 10, 10:42*pm, TRKA > wrote:
>
> > > > > One question
>
> > > > > what makes this device so expensive please?
>
> > > > > I see a normal cheap chinese Navigation device with no additional
> > > > > gear.
> > > > > Also if this is additional gear it will cost about 10$
>
> > > > > So lets calculate
>
> > > > > Cheap chinese Navigation device : 60-100$
> > > > > Additional Gear : 10$
> > > > > Software : 0$ (XCSoar and LK8000) is FREEWARE
>
> > > Never had a problem installing XCSoar or the terrain data on PDA's or
> > > the MIO C320, which is done by a hack and using a SD card. The MIO is
> > > pretty crummy in daylight though, and Al's statement that his PNA is
> > > better than a HP 39XX in sunlight is interesting. If his device is
> > > indeed more viewable than a 39XX and can be connected to an approved
> > > data logger it becomes a very nice low cost option.
>
> > Meant to post this last night...
>
> > added to silentflights facebook page.. screens ipaq 3850 and SFGC side
> > by side on my desk last night.http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=1108700&o=all&op=1&view=all&...
>
> > Will see if the iphone's crappy camera can convey the same in bight
> > sunlight.
>
> > Cheers
>
> > Al
>
> This is no real test Sorry. Put them outside and let the sun shine on
> both displays.
> We dont fly in our office or at home, we fly outside you know!
I fly in a cockpit... you might have one of those fancy Grunau Baby's
or something with no canopy.
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
May 12th 10, 02:33 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:47:11 -0700, JS wrote:
> The Navigon is probably a confused version. Single clang, then 2
> bars of music.
>
That's useful to know: evidently the start-up sound is defined by the
manufacturer and some, such as Binatone, change it from time to time.
> Thought if I continued trying to put XC Soar on it, there would be the
> clang of it hitting the wall.
> The database has 700 or so points and covers at least part of 4 western
> states, which is what I heard was bad for XC Soar terrain generator.
> Jim
>
My B350 database contains:
- the complete BGA turnpoint list (1196 turnpoints, 69 KB)
- the whole of the UK topo and terrain in a .xcm file
(all turnpoints + 25km border at 9 arc-second resolution, 2.5MB)
- the complete UK airspace file (199KB)
on its SD card together with XCSoar 5.2.4mk.
It takes 50 seconds to start up. Apart from the start up time I haven't
seen any performance impact from database size.
--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |
Brad[_2_]
May 12th 10, 04:35 PM
On May 10, 10:26*pm, " >
wrote:
> On May 10, 10:10*pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > On May 10, 9:53*pm, " >
> > wrote:
>
> > > What is more important is the readability with more screen real
> > > estate.
>
> > And a free Plastic Jesus!http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Glidin...
>
> Ok Jim, I'll throw in free plastic Jesus upgrade for the first 10
> purchasers.
>
> The JPS (Jesus Positioning Unit) will be autographed with a Sharpie by
> yours truely.
>
> Al
Al,
If you can add FLARM or ADS-B and integrate that with a JPS that
speaks up and informs you of the traffic I'll get 2 of them!
Would the Goddard cable that powers the iPAQ310 also be able to power
the Faux Oudie?
Brad
On May 12, 8:35*am, Brad > wrote:
> On May 10, 10:26*pm, " >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 10, 10:10*pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > > On May 10, 9:53*pm, " >
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > What is more important is the readability with more screen real
> > > > estate.
>
> > > And a free Plastic Jesus!http://web.archive.org/web/20060521052116/www.silentflight.com/Glidin...
>
> > Ok Jim, I'll throw in free plastic Jesus upgrade for the first 10
> > purchasers.
>
> > The JPS (Jesus Positioning Unit) will be autographed with a Sharpie by
> > yours truely.
>
> > Al
>
> Al,
>
> If you can add FLARM or ADS-B and integrate that with a JPS that
> speaks up and informs you of the traffic I'll get 2 of them!
>
> Would the Goddard cable that powers the iPAQ310 also be able to power
> the Faux Oudie?
>
> Brad
The LK8000 software has FLARM integration you can see their test setup
on Paolo's website.
It is detailed in the manual link I posted earlier in this thread.
As far as cabling goes, it's basically a serial to USB converter with
power.
Cumulus has them "shipping may 15th" I believe or there are a number
of raw cables that could be modified easily.
I can assemble a package of cable, computer and test NMEA into the
device shipping it as a package for you ready to go.
If you would like multiple units email me directly to discuss.
Cheers
Al
Andrew Blanchard
May 12th 10, 08:13 PM
I purchased a unit on ebay (Item number 270547293803 ) that looks
quite similar. I can say that it loads LK8000 easy and runs great.
Battery life sucks, but I just use 4-AA batteries in USB charger.
noel.wade
May 12th 10, 10:37 PM
On May 12, 12:13*pm, Andrew Blanchard > wrote:
> I purchased a unit on ebay (Item number 270547293803 ) that looks
> quite similar. *I can say that it loads LK8000 easy and runs great.
> Battery life sucks, but I just use 4-AA batteries in USB charger.
Just a note:
There appear to be a lot of "look-alike" units for sale cheap on eBay
right now... But if you look closely at their specs you'll see they
have much lower screen resolution, and some have slower/older CPUs.
So Caveat Emptor!
--Noel
(who is otherwise intrigued by the 800 x 480 models with a better
CPU...)
TRKA
May 20th 10, 07:42 AM
WHAT????
Are you kidding. Put them both in bright sunlight and make a photo.
Everthing else is no real compare. Only Marketing blala
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