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Charles Talleyrand
August 19th 03, 05:47 AM
Of course everyone thinks their plane is wonderful, but every plane has at least
one annoying 'feature'. I don't want to hear about cabin width or cruise speed,
but that minor gremlin you would fix if money was free and time replaceable.
In my plane, the overflow vent vents too much and full tanks cause it to
drip. Yes, I know how to fix it, and probably will next annual, but right now
it bugs me.
Ray Andraka
August 19th 03, 11:40 AM
cabin leaks and corrosion.
Mike wrote:
> Cabin vents that don't close completely.
>
> --Mike
>
> "Charles Talleyrand" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Of course everyone thinks their plane is wonderful, but every plane has at
> least
> > one annoying 'feature'. I don't want to hear about cabin width or cruise
> speed,
> > but that minor gremlin you would fix if money was free and time
> replaceable.
> >
> > In my plane, the overflow vent vents too much and full tanks cause it to
> > drip. Yes, I know how to fix it, and probably will next annual, but
> right now
> > it bugs me.
> >
> >
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Bob Noel
August 19th 03, 12:49 PM
In article >, "Charles Talleyrand"
> wrote:
> Of course everyone thinks their plane is wonderful, but every plane has
> at least
> one annoying 'feature'. I don't want to hear about cabin width or cruise
> speed,
> but that minor gremlin you would fix if money was free and time
> replaceable.
lack of instrument panel lights.
the seat is just a little too low.
--
Bob Noel
Steve Robertson
August 19th 03, 01:52 PM
If your plane is a Cessna 150/152, you will never get that fixed. They all do it and
there's no way to stop it short of redesigning the fuel system.
For me, mine has an odd cold starting gremlin. (Lycoming IO-360) It will rarely
start the first time, no matter how long I run the starter or how long I prime it
with the aux pump. However, it will start on the 2nd blade every time the second
time I run the starter. Weird.
Best regards,
Steve Robertson
N4732J 1967 Beechcraft Musketeer Super III
Charles Talleyrand wrote:
> Of course everyone thinks their plane is wonderful, but every plane has at least
> one annoying 'feature'. I don't want to hear about cabin width or cruise speed,
> but that minor gremlin you would fix if money was free and time replaceable.
>
> In my plane, the overflow vent vents too much and full tanks cause it to
> drip. Yes, I know how to fix it, and probably will next annual, but right now
> it bugs me.
Dale
August 19th 03, 04:18 PM
In article >, "Charles Talleyrand"
> wrote:
> but that minor gremlin you would fix if money was free and time
The one thing I'd like to fix (and all it would take is some money) is that my
airplane now belongs to someone else.
--
Dale L. Falk
There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.
http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html
One's Too Many
August 19th 03, 10:47 PM
(Grant Ritchey) wrote in message >...
> I really don't feel sorry for you all. I rent.
>
> Grant
And I wont feel sorry for you either the next time you want or need to
go fly somewhere and no planes are available for you at that time.
On our Arrow (as on all of the larger 4-place Cherokee-derived airframes)
with the baggage door secured in the open position it is awkward, and
possibly even dangerous, to use the wing walk for entry and egress. IMHO
the baggage door should be on the other side of the plane.
-Elliott Drucker
Mike
August 20th 03, 06:09 AM
> wrote in message
...
> On our Arrow (as on all of the larger 4-place Cherokee-derived airframes)
> with the baggage door secured in the open position it is awkward, and
> possibly even dangerous, to use the wing walk for entry and egress. IMHO
> the baggage door should be on the other side of the plane.
>
> -Elliott Drucker
That really is annoying how the open door basically blocks the hand hold...
but i've always thought of it as a safety feature. Can't easily forget
about the door if it's blocking you on the way up.
--Mike
G.R. Patterson III
August 20th 03, 02:30 PM
Charles Talleyrand wrote:
>
> Of course everyone thinks their plane is wonderful, but every plane has at least
> one annoying 'feature'. I don't want to hear about cabin width or cruise speed,
> but that minor gremlin you would fix if money was free and time replaceable.
In my plane, the fuel will syphon out the vents if you fill the tanks to the
top. There's no tab showing the maximum safe fuel level. I have to caution any
line person to leave about 1.5" air space, but a lot of them are like gas
station attendants - they want to cram in as much as they can. It makes one a
bit nervous taxiing for takeoff with a stream of 100LL pouring from the bottom
of a wing.
George Patterson
Brute force has an elegance all its own.
Maule Driver
August 20th 03, 04:01 PM
Thanks for saving me the time to write this one.
"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
> In my plane, the fuel will syphon out the vents if you fill the tanks to
the
> top. There's no tab showing the maximum safe fuel level. I have to caution
any
> line person to leave about 1.5" air space, but a lot of them are like gas
> station attendants - they want to cram in as much as they can. It makes
one a
> bit nervous taxiing for takeoff with a stream of 100LL pouring from the
bottom
> of a wing.
>
> George Patterson
> Brute force has an elegance all its own.
Ron Natalie
August 20th 03, 07:02 PM
> wrote in message ...
> As e.drucker said the baggage compartment door blocks the wingwalk and
> handhold on a Warrior. There is no inspection plate to service the fuel
> level sending unit on the fuel tanks. The tank MUST be removed.
Can you "install" such a plate, or is there something structural in the
way?
Ben Jackson
August 20th 03, 08:22 PM
In article >,
Steve Robertson > wrote:
>For me, mine has an odd cold starting gremlin. (Lycoming IO-360) It will rarely
>start the first time, no matter how long I run the starter or how long I
>prime it
>with the aux pump. However, it will start on the 2nd blade every time the second
>time I run the starter. Weird.
You sure the aux pump is working? Could be you're priming by cranking
the engine pump which gets you the start on the second crank.
--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/
Steve Robertson
August 20th 03, 08:53 PM
Hmmmm. I guess that's a possiblity. The aux pump makes plenty of noise when it's on.
Wonder if it's really pumping... On the other hand, suppose only the engine pump is
working. Why doesn't it eventually start the first time? Why does it start
*instantly* on the second go?
Best regards,
Steve Robertson
N4732J 1967 Beechcraft A23-24 Musketeer Super III
Ben Jackson wrote:
> In article >,
> Steve Robertson > wrote:
> >For me, mine has an odd cold starting gremlin. (Lycoming IO-360) It will rarely
> >start the first time, no matter how long I run the starter or how long I
> >prime it
> >with the aux pump. However, it will start on the 2nd blade every time the second
> >time I run the starter. Weird.
>
> You sure the aux pump is working? Could be you're priming by cranking
> the engine pump which gets you the start on the second crank.
>
> --
> Ben Jackson
> >
> http://www.ben.com/
ShawnD2112
August 20th 03, 09:41 PM
A canopy that doesn't really fit properly and recently developed the
inability to stay properly locked closed.
Shawn
Pitts S-1D G-BKVP
"Charles Talleyrand" > wrote in message
...
> Of course everyone thinks their plane is wonderful, but every plane has at
least
> one annoying 'feature'. I don't want to hear about cabin width or cruise
speed,
> but that minor gremlin you would fix if money was free and time
replaceable.
>
> In my plane, the overflow vent vents too much and full tanks cause it to
> drip. Yes, I know how to fix it, and probably will next annual, but
right now
> it bugs me.
>
>
jim rosinski
August 21st 03, 05:36 AM
(Ben Jackson) wrote:
> Steve Robertson > wrote:
> >For me, mine has an odd cold starting gremlin. (Lycoming IO-360) It will rarely
> >start the first time, no matter how long I run the starter or how long I
> >prime it
> >with the aux pump. However, it will start on the 2nd blade every time the second
> >time I run the starter. Weird.
>
> You sure the aux pump is working? Could be you're priming by cranking
> the engine pump which gets you the start on the second crank.
Not to say it can't be the aux pump, but I get the same symptom in my
Skyhawk, which has no fuel pump at all. In fact, it's finicky enough
that about a 4-second delay between crankings is best to guarantee a
start on the second try.
Jim Rosinski
N3825Q
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