PIREP please - Franklin 220 owners

[Roger Long]

I'd like to hear from anyone who has a Franklin 220 h.p., especially in a
172.

Any other comments or rumors, informed or otherwise, fire away.
--
Roger Long

[Rosspilot]

I explored this route . . . never got any kind of response from Franklin by
phone or email.

Was told (here) that they may be out of business.
www.Rosspilot.com

[Jim]

There are a few comments in this month's AOPA Pilot about Franklin engines
in the Stinson 108-3 article. From what I remember it's a mixed bag, those
that keep their seals tight and new don't see any oil leaks, those that
don't will. It also mentioned a rebuilder in Colorado (I think) that sounds
like they have plenty of parts at least for a couple years. The last 220hp
model I saw in an airplane had a puddle of oil under it on the ramp.
--
Jim Burns III

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"Roger Long" m> wrote in
message ...
> I'd like to hear from anyone who has a Franklin 220 h.p., especially in a
> 172.
>
> Any other comments or rumors, informed or otherwise, fire away.
> --
> Roger Long
>
>

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jim wrote:
>
> There are a few comments in this month's AOPA Pilot about Franklin engines
> in the Stinson 108-3 article.

"The engines for the 108s — the Franklin 150-hp and 165-hp models — are no
longer made, although a Franklin 220-hp engine was still being made by PZL,
of Poland, until recently. At this writing PZL has temporarily suspended
production of that engine. For now, though, parts remain in plentiful supply
even for the engines no longer made.

Until the supply of 220-hp Franklins runs out, U.S. distributors such as
Franklin Aircraft Engines, of Fort Collins, Colorado, can upgrade Stinson 108s
to the 220-hp engine. Univair owns a supplemental type certificate (STC) that
allows mounting a 180-hp or 200-hp Lycoming O-360 or IO-360 engine on a Stinson
108-series aircraft."

George Patterson
You can dress a hog in a tuxedo, but he still wants to roll in the mud.

[Jim]

Thanks George. My copy is at home and my memory is here at work :)
btw: I found one 108-3 listed for sale on the web.... $60,000. *gulp*
--
Jim Burns III

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"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
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>
>
> Jim wrote:
> >
> > There are a few comments in this month's AOPA Pilot about Franklin
engines
> > in the Stinson 108-3 article.
>
> "The engines for the 108s - the Franklin 150-hp and 165-hp models - are no
> longer made, although a Franklin 220-hp engine was still being made by
PZL,
> of Poland, until recently. At this writing PZL has temporarily suspended
> production of that engine. For now, though, parts remain in plentiful
supply
> even for the engines no longer made.
>
> Until the supply of 220-hp Franklins runs out, U.S. distributors such as
> Franklin Aircraft Engines, of Fort Collins, Colorado, can upgrade Stinson
108s
> to the 220-hp engine. Univair owns a supplemental type certificate (STC)
that
> allows mounting a 180-hp or 200-hp Lycoming O-360 or IO-360 engine on a
Stinson
> 108-series aircraft."
>
> George Patterson
> You can dress a hog in a tuxedo, but he still wants to roll in the
mud.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jim wrote:
>
> Thanks George. My copy is at home and my memory is here at work :)
> btw: I found one 108-3 listed for sale on the web.... $60,000. *gulp*

Yeah. There's a problem with these articles. As soon as one of the big magazines
prints an article about some "great deal" in aviation, the price doubles. I was
looking at Citrabias years ago when Flying magazine listed it as one of their
ten best deals in used aircraft. The TAP price on one Florida plane I was
considering went from $9,000 to $15,000 in one issue.

Give it a while. When the plane doesn't sell, it'll come back down.

George Patterson
You can dress a hog in a tuxedo, but he still wants to roll in the mud.