Looking for Night Flight Flashlight....

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I'm looking for a D Cell RED led flashlight any suggestions as to
brand model and source?

A red LED head lamp would also be nice.

Thanks in advance

[C J Campbell]

> wrote in message
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| I'm looking for a D Cell RED led flashlight any suggestions as to
| brand model and source?

The only D Cell LED flashlight that I am aware of is the Lightwave 4000,
which only comes in white. You could try rigging up a red filter for it.

[Bob Fry]

writes:

> A red LED head lamp would also be nice.

| On to the LED headlamps. These are made by Rayovac ("Sportsman",
| 3-in-1, model SPHTLED) and Energizer ("LED Essentials", model
| HD33A1EN). One comes from Walmart and the other from Target and I
| can't remember which. The Rayovac model has 3 lamps: white LED, red
| LED, and white incandescent; the Energizer just 2 lamps, white and red
| LED. They are both designed to wear on your forehead so you can work
| hands-free.
|
| They both do the job, but I preferred the Rayovac model. It seemed a
| little better made and was more comfortable to wear. I tried them
| under my headset, I don't think they'd work too well over a
| headset. The Rayovac had nicely soft and diffused white LED, and a
| somewhat harder red LED pattern; the Energizer just the opposite. My
| idea is that you would put the thing on and use it during preflight,
| then turn it off, still wearing it, and have it available as a backup
| during flight.

[Ron Natalie]

> wrote in message ...
> I'm looking for a D Cell RED led flashlight any suggestions as to
> brand model and source?

Why D cells?
Why red?

[Larryskydives]

Why not get one of the military style flashlights with a 90degree head. In the
bottom they have both red and blue filters that can be installed on the beam.

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D Cell because of the FAR flashlight requirement.

Red because of night vision preservation.


Maybe I'm just old fashioned.




On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:55:49 -0500, "Ron Natalie" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message ...
>> I'm looking for a D Cell RED led flashlight any suggestions as to
>> brand model and source?
>
>Why D cells?
>Why red?
>

[Sven]

> wrote in message
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> D Cell because of the FAR flashlight requirement.
>
> Red because of night vision preservation.
>
>
> Maybe I'm just old fashioned.

Ok, where do you get the requirement in the FAR's for D-cell flashlight for
GA?

[Larryskydives]

FAR 91.503

[Greg Burkhart]

"Larryskydives" > wrote in message
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> FAR 91.503

That's part of Subpart F -- Large and Turbine-Powered Multiengine Airplanes,
not applicable to general aviation single engine.
See http://makeshorter.com/?15B84g6W

[C J Campbell]

"Larryskydives" > wrote in message
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| FAR 91.503

It would be interesting to know what plane he flies that it falls in Subpart
F, though. Or perhaps he flies Part 135 at night, which also has the
flashlight requirement.

[C J Campbell]

"Greg Burkhart" > wrote in message
news:0wGpb.102033$e01.351896@attbi_s02...
| "Larryskydives" > wrote in message
| ...
| > FAR 91.503
|
| That's part of Subpart F -- Large and Turbine-Powered Multiengine
Airplanes,
| not applicable to general aviation single engine.
| See http://makeshorter.com/?15B84g6W

Bizjets are considered general aviation. Perhaps the poster flies one of
these; we have a few others that post here who do.

Or maybe he flies Part 135.

[Sven]

"C J Campbell" > wrote in message
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>
> "Larryskydives" > wrote in message
> ...
> | FAR 91.503
>
> It would be interesting to know what plane he flies that it falls in
Subpart
> F, though. Or perhaps he flies Part 135 at night, which also has the
> flashlight requirement.

The original poster didn't mention that he was flying Part 135 at night or
falls under Subpart F. I assumed (possibly wrongly?) that he read 91.503 and
thought it applied to all GA.

Wouldn't an aircraft covered under Subpart F (hence 91.503) already have the
required D-cell flashlight as part of the MEL?

[Ron Natalie]

> wrote in message ...
> D Cell because of the FAR flashlight requirement.

There is NO requirement for flashlights at all (let alone D cells).
>
> Red because of night vision preservation.
>
Red makes charts extrememly difficult to read. The key is LOW levels
of illumination (something D cell flashlights typically suck at). I've found
the backlight of my Garmin 195 is just about the right brightness.

[Ron Natalie]

"Larryskydives" > wrote in message ...
> FAR 91.503
Are you flying a large or turbine powered aircraft?
If not, this far has no applicability to you.

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I'm the origional poster and also (Depends on where I post from)

I got my PP more than 20 years ago, I believe that the D cell flash light was part of the night fars for everyone back then.
I could be wrong. I spent about two hours looking for it in the current FAR's and could not find it.
Hence my requirement for a D cell flashlight is probably moot.

Just looking for a good LED flashlight not D cell, makes the search much easier.

My error.

Paul






On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:15:34 -0800, "C J Campbell" > wrote:

>
>"Greg Burkhart" > wrote in message
>news:0wGpb.102033$e01.351896@attbi_s02...
>| "Larryskydives" > wrote in message
>| ...
>| > FAR 91.503
>|
>| That's part of Subpart F -- Large and Turbine-Powered Multiengine
>Airplanes,
>| not applicable to general aviation single engine.
>| See http://makeshorter.com/?15B84g6W
>
>Bizjets are considered general aviation. Perhaps the poster flies one of
>these; we have a few others that post here who do.
>
>Or maybe he flies Part 135.
>

[Larryskydives]

The guy asked about about a D-cell flashlight. You asked why? It doesn't
matter why, if that is what he wants and feels comfortable with then so be it.

I bet you look funny looking around the cockpit with you 195.

[Bob Fry]

writes:

> Just looking for a good LED flashlight not D cell, makes the search
> much easier.

"Now the LED flashlight. I got a Rigel Skylite for $25 + shipping from
Hardin Optical Company
(http://hardinoptical.com/rigsysskylle.html). First, this gem has both
white and red LED lamps (a white/green version is available too).
Plus, they are activated with a large dial or wheel that starts out
dim, and gets brighter as you turn it! A lanyard is attached to the
end so you can wear it around your neck. I did a pretend preflight to
see how it would work. Perfectly adequate, but it doesn't throw a
strong penetrating light. My idea with this would be to wear it
around my neck during flight, perhaps turned to either red or white at
the dimmest setting, so if the electrical fails I will have some light
on anyway."

[EDR]

In article >, Ron Natalie
> wrote:

> Red makes charts extrememly difficult to read.

Not if you are sufficiently night adapted.

[Ron Natalie]

"Larryskydives" > wrote in message ...
> The guy asked about about a D-cell flashlight. You asked why? It doesn't
> matter why, if that is what he wants and feels comfortable with then so be it.
>
> I bet you look funny looking around the cockpit with you 195.

For that I use a flashlight. But I don't spend a whole lot of time
hunting around the cockpit in flight. Decent cockpit managment
(especially when flying alone) is the key. For reading the charts the 195 works better than
most things I have. Most of the lights I have are just too bright.

[Ron Natalie]

"EDR" > wrote in message ...
> In article >, Ron Natalie
> > wrote:
>
> > Red makes charts extrememly difficult to read.
>
> Not if you are sufficiently night adapted.

All the dark adapting in the world isn't going to change the
fact that you can't make many color distinctions with monochromatic
light.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Ron Natalie wrote:
>
> Most of the lights I have are just too bright.

I picked up a RayOVac at Home Depot. Uses one AA battery and looks like one of
the old WWII Army flashlights, only tiny. The head tilts, and it comes with
several lenses, one of which is red. Unfortunately, green was not an option for
lens color. The bulb is about grain-of-wheat size. It works very well for use
in the cockpit. It isn't quite bright enough for pre-flighting.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

[Ed McGovern]

We had a similar problem when we (USAF) went looking for an emergency light
for a complete electrical problem contingency in our plane. We found a wide
selection of good LED based products at http://www.glowbug.com/

Specific flashlights to notice are the Clipper 1 ($8.90) with a single green
LED and the ShoreLite Vx-2 ($22.95) with 2 LEDs and brightness step-down
features. Both of these lights will stay powered up longer than you have
fuel to stay airborne!


"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Larryskydives" > wrote in message
...
> > The guy asked about about a D-cell flashlight. You asked why? It
doesn't
> > matter why, if that is what he wants and feels comfortable with then so
be it.
> >
> > I bet you look funny looking around the cockpit with you 195.
>
> For that I use a flashlight. But I don't spend a whole lot of time
> hunting around the cockpit in flight. Decent cockpit managment
> (especially when flying alone) is the key. For reading the charts the 195
works better than
> most things I have. Most of the lights I have are just too bright.
>
>

[Grant Ritchey]

For a red filtered light, try looking in an astronomy catalog. Look at Orion's
or Sky & Telescope's website.

I use a Pelzl headlamp for good hands-free operation. Not red, but you could
rig a filter, or you could just use white light.

Hope this helps.

GR