Cheap OX recomendations

[Guy Byars]

On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that she
couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her would
be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
seem pricey.

Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for a
passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available. Medical
systems perhaps?

GB

[G.R. Patterson III]

Guy Byars wrote:
>
> Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for a
> passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available. Medical
> systems perhaps?

http://www.probuy.net/products/OXYGENPAC.html
http://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/182584-1.html

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

[Phil McAverty]

"Guy Byars" > wrote in message
...
> On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
> complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that
she
> couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her
would
> be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
> seem pricey.
>
> Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for
a
> passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available.
Medical
> systems perhaps?
>
If it was my wife and she was prepared to fly with me, then I would not
skimp on the cost. Besides which her comfort is definitely a safety issue
for me, my safety when we get home.

[Ron Natalie]

"Guy Byars" > wrote in message ...
> On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
> complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that she
> couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her would
> be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
> seem pricey.

Precise Flight.Nelson makes a small bottle for just under $400. I picked one up for
my mechanic at Oshkosh last year. It's packaged as an "emergency" bottle but it
will run a single person for a reasonable duration. She wanted it small as she's
flying an RV4.

[Dashi]

"Guy Byars" > wrote in message
...
> On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
> complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that
she
> couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her
would
> be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
> seem pricey.
>
> Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for
a
> passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available.
Medical
> systems perhaps?
>
> GB

I'd first check for carbon monoxide.

Dashi
>
>

[Guy Byars]

> > GB
>
> I'd first check for carbon monoxide.
>
> Dashi

The other 3 occupants were fine.... myself included.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Dashi wrote:
>
> I'd first check for carbon monoxide.

That would affect everyone in the plane. It appears from the post that Guy had
no problems. CO also produces splitting headaches, which weren't mentioned.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

[Michael]

"Guy Byars" > wrote
> On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
> complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that she
> couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her would
> be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
> seem pricey.
>
> Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for a
> passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available. Medical
> systems perhaps?

Your best bet is to check out a flymarket at a large fly-in - Oshkosh
and Sun&Fun are good options, but somethign more local may also work
for you. For example, I paid less than $100 for a used TWA walkaround
bottle - basically a bottle with strap and mask that was used by TWA
crew to move around in the event of depressurization. You might also
check out Ebay for something similar.

Michael

[David Lesher]

Ed Gauss, an old Alaska bush pilot, used to explain his wife kept
awake & happy by playing a harmonica. It meant she breathed quite
a bit more than if idle, and that was enough to make the difference...
--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

[G.R. Patterson III]

David Lesher wrote:
>
> Ed Gauss, an old Alaska bush pilot, used to explain his wife kept
> awake & happy by playing a harmonica.

Thank God for ANR headsets!

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

[Drew Dalgleish]

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:10:31 -0500, "Guy Byars" >
wrote:

>On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
>complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that she
>couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her would
>be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
>seem pricey.
>
>Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for a
>passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available. Medical
>systems perhaps?
>
>GB
>
>
Proper breathing can make a big difference. Slow deep breathing is the
key to good oxygen uptake. If she felt she wasn't getting enough air
she was possibly breathing too fast.
Drew

[Jeff]

We bought the Sky-Ox system, it was really nice, works great, but was about 500$
I think. maybe a bit more. Pricey but worth it.


Guy Byars wrote:

> On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
> complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that she
> couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her would
> be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
> seem pricey.
>
> Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for a
> passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available. Medical
> systems perhaps?
>
> GB

[[email protected]]

Any thoughts on a simple, small, portable medical grade system. Cheesy vinyl
mask and small bottle? Where can you fill them?

I know that the FAA/reg guys would have a field day on this, but I'm also thinking along
the lines of a SCUBA "spare-air" cylinder. Smaller than a normal thermos bottle with
built-in regulator. You wouldn't use it continuously (so no good over 12.5k), but just
to take a few hits every once in awhile and before landing to "freshen up."

Anybody done this? I'd think it could be done for pretty cheap.
-Cory

Guy Byars > wrote:
: On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
: complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that she
: couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her would
: be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
: seem pricey.

: Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for a
: passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available. Medical
: systems perhaps?

: GB



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[David Lesher]

"G.R. Patterson III" > writes:



>> Ed Gauss, an old Alaska bush pilot, used to explain his wife kept
>> awake & happy by playing a harmonica.

>Thank God for ANR headsets!

He wanted her awake so he had someone to talk to...

--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

[Ron Natalie]

"David Lesher" > wrote in message ...
>
> Ed Gauss, an old Alaska bush pilot, used to explain his wife kept
> awake & happy by playing a harmonica. It meant she breathed quite
> a bit more than if idle, and that was enough to make the difference...

Jeez, I haven't heard that name in forever. After his bush flying days,
he lived somewhere in NJ. Back when net.aviation was a smaller crowd
I remember going to a party at his house.

[Ron Natalie]

> wrote in message ...
> Any thoughts on a simple, small, portable medical grade system. Cheesy vinyl
> mask and small bottle? Where can you fill them?

Actually, it's easier to get ABO than medical oxygen. Federal law prohibits dispensing
medical oxygen without a prescription. Go figure. Any gas shop will fill it either way
(all the same gas). Look under oxygen in the Yellow pages. Oddly enough, since most
of the airports here are ringed with industrial park, you usually don't have to go too far
from to find someone to fill it.

> I know that the FAA/reg guys would have a field day on this, but I'm also thinking along
> the lines of a SCUBA "spare-air" cylinder. Smaller than a normal thermos bottle with
> built-in regulator. You wouldn't use it continuously (so no good over 12.5k), but just
> to take a few hits every once in awhile and before landing to "freshen up."

Precise Flight/Nelson makes these. I posted a link earlier.

[frank]

G.R. Patterson III wrote:

>
>
> Guy Byars wrote:
>>
>> Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for
>> a
>> passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available.
>> Medical systems perhaps?

Don't some aviation people recommend O2 for all extended flights above
9000'? Are you sure it is not a medical issue in her case? (Latest
Physical?)

[Montblack]

("frank" wrote)
> Don't some aviation people recommend O2 for all extended flights above
> 9000'? Are you sure it is not a medical issue in her case? (Latest
> Physical?)


http://www.sportstat.nonin.com/index.html
SportStat Pulse Oximeter - Nonin Medical, Inc.
Plymouth, Minnesota (10 miles west of Minneapolis)

The 32F / 0C (bottom end temp range) seems odd - especially since they
recommend SportStat for mountain climbers. Use it with a big mitten?

From their web page:
SportStat can be used by a variety of sports enthusiasts, including mountain
climbers, hikers, skiers, bikers, and others interested in measuring blood
oxygen saturation and pulse rate. It can be used outdoors in many
conditions, including high altitudes, at high and low temperatures, and even
in the dark.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K50822AB6
(Retail price - $400. I've seen them listed <somewhere> for about $350 this
summer)

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Montblack
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[Blanche]

For $350 you can buy a decent O2 system and not worry any more!

[G.R. Patterson III]

Blanche wrote:
>
> For $350 you can buy a decent O2 system and not worry any more!

Really? Where?

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

[Vaughn]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("frank" wrote)
> > Don't some aviation people recommend O2 for all extended flights above
> > 9000'? Are you sure it is not a medical issue in her case? (Latest
> > Physical?)
>
>
> http://www.sportstat.nonin.com/index.html
> SportStat Pulse Oximeter - Nonin Medical, Inc.
> Plymouth, Minnesota (10 miles west of Minneapolis)

A fantastic, almost magic, piece of equipment and (except for the
label) identical to what doctors and hospitals often use. If your wife's 02
saturation at altitude is consistently less than that of others, it is
certainly something to get checked. If you fly with 02 a lot, a pulse
Oximeter can save you a bunch of oxygen (because you may be able to safely
use a lower flow) and give you peace of mind.

Vaughn

[David Lesher]

"Ron Natalie" > writes:


>> Ed Gauss, an old Alaska bush pilot, used to explain his wife kept
>> awake & happy by playing a harmonica. It meant she breathed quite
>> a bit more than if idle, and that was enough to make the difference...

>Jeez, I haven't heard that name in forever. After his bush flying days,
>he lived somewhere in NJ. Back when net.aviation was a smaller crowd
>I remember going to a party at his house.

Last time we chatted, he was in Colorado. He was trying his hand at
sculpture, I think. Gulp (looking in mail log) that was 1993!

FWIW, shellEy still throws ST/SW parties....


--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

[G.R. Patterson III]

David Lesher wrote:
>
> Last time we chatted, he was in Colorado. He was trying his hand at
> sculpture, I think. Gulp (looking in mail log) that was 1993!

Yahoo's "People Search" turns up an Ed Gauss in Colorado. Might be him.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

[Paul Lee]

If you ever go to Oshkosh or Sun-N-Fun EAA meets, you can get a show discount
for some of the brand names. I got a fully equipped SkyOx, four place 15cf
system for $481 (+ shipping).

----------------------------------------------------------
Paul Lee, SQ2000 experimental project: www.abri.com/sq2000

"Guy Byars" > wrote in message >...
> On a trip last week, we flew for 3 hours at 10,000ft. Afterward my wife
> complained of fatigue and at times during the flight she complained that she
> couldn't "get enough air". I am thinking that supplemental OX for her would
> be helpful. I checked the Aerox systems and the other systems, but they
> seem pricey.
>
> Given that this is a comfort issue and not a safety issue and is only for a
> passenger, are there any other cheap portable OX systems available. Medical
> systems perhaps?
>
> GB