2004 Registration

[PaulaJay1]

I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my Archer,
N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to $100
(2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?

Chuck

[Newps]

My 182 is $50 every year since I have had it here in Montana. $350 if
you don't pay by March 1st.

PaulaJay1 wrote:
> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to $100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
>
> Chuck

[EDR]

In article >, PaulaJay1
> wrote:

> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to $100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?

Chuck, up until this past summer, we were able to successfully fight
off all the previous proposed increases to the $6/seat registration.
The budget crunch was so severe, the legislature would not entertain
even a graduated registration rate. Les Wexner's pays the same $100 for
his 727, GIV, Hawker 800 that you pay for your Archer and I pay for my
Champ. We don't have the strong leadership in of our Office of Aviation
as we once did.

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
(PaulaJay1) wrote:

> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my
> Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to
> $100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other
> states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
>
> Chuck


$165 per year in taxachusetts for my cherokee 140 - up this year
from $125 per year.

--
Bob Noel

[JJS]

$10 for a Cherokee 140 in Joke - lahoma. Hasn't changed since I
purchased it in 1998.
Joe Schneider
8437R

"Bob Noel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> (PaulaJay1) wrote:
>
> > I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of
my
> > Archer,
> > N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12
(2003) to
> > $100
> > (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do
other
> > states
> > charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
> >
> > Chuck
>
>
> $165 per year in taxachusetts for my cherokee 140 - up this year
> from $125 per year.
>
> --
> Bob Noel

[Aaron Coolidge]

Bob Noel > wrote:


: $165 per year in taxachusetts for my cherokee 140 - up this year
: from $125 per year.

: --
: Bob Noel

And it goes up from there as max gross goes up. Besides, Taxachu$$ett$ will
toss you in jail if'n you're not paid up by 1/1/04.
--
Aaron Coolidge (N9376J)

[BTIZ]

in NV.. aircraft are considered and taxed just like boats and other
"personal" property... same tax mil rate... I don't have the clubs records
here so I can not specify the tax.. but based on a percentage value of my
house tax, the a $20000 glider would be taxed about $250

BT


"PaulaJay1" > wrote in message
...
> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my
Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to
$100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
>
> Chuck

[Rich]

PaulaJay1 wrote:
> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to $100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
>
> Chuck
In Michigan, it is 1 cent per pound of Gross weight. For my 1966
Bonanza, it is $34.00. Local authorities are expressly forbidden to
levy personal property taxes.

Rich

[G.R. Patterson III]

PaulaJay1 wrote:
>
> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to $100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?

New Jersey does not charge a yearly fee.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[Jerald Malin]

Chuck:

We have no State registration in North Carolina, but City and County
property taxes on our Warrior was $430.21 for 2003.

Jerry Malin
Warrior N82045


"PaulaJay1" > wrote in message
...
> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my
Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to
$100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
>
> Chuck

[Tyler]

Oregon

Pilot registration - $8 /yr
Single engine fixed wing $50 /yr

[[email protected]]

Washington State: $65.00 registration fee for single engine airplanes.
Aircraft are not subject to property tax, but you pay a hefty sales or use
tax when you buy or first register the plane, respectively, in the state.

"Active" pilots residing in Washington are subject to an annual $15.00 fee,
which also gets you the state airport guide.

--
-Elliott Drucker

[BTIZ]

Pilot registration???

Is this another case of States trying to take over Federal government?

and does that mean my Federal Pilot certificate is not valid in that state
if I don't pay their registration??

doubt it.. remind me not to move there...

BT

"Tyler" > wrote in message
...
> Oregon
>
> Pilot registration - $8 /yr
> Single engine fixed wing $50 /yr
>

[BTIZ]

BS

And who checks on whether I'm active or not... the local FBO?

BT

> wrote in message
...
> Washington State: $65.00 registration fee for single engine airplanes.
> Aircraft are not subject to property tax, but you pay a hefty sales or use
> tax when you buy or first register the plane, respectively, in the state.
>
> "Active" pilots residing in Washington are subject to an annual $15.00
fee,
> which also gets you the state airport guide.
>
> --
> -Elliott Drucker

[Greg Burkhart]

"PaulaJay1" > wrote in message
...
> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my
Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to
$100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?

In Minnesota: $25/year unless antique/classic, then it's only $25 one-time.
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/aero/avoffice/ops/acreg/info.html

Iowa is $35/year for older planes.
http://www.dot.state.ia.us/mvd/ovs/aircraft.htm

[Nathan Young]

"Jerald Malin" > wrote in message et>...
> Chuck:
>
> We have no State registration in North Carolina, but City and County
> property taxes on our Warrior was $430.21 for 2003.
>
> Jerry Malin
> Warrior N82045

Damn! That is ridiculous. Illinois is $20 every other year for the
plane and $10 every other year for the pilot.

I wonder why the significant delta. Perhaps your gas tax is lower
than ours?

-Nathan

[markjen]

> Pilot registration???
>
> Is this another case of States trying to take over Federal government?

WA is the same. They "require" you to register as a pilot and use the
revenue (mostly) to fund an airport directory book and a few other things.
I think any legal challenge would find that they have no authority to
require resident pilots to register in the state, but the fee has been low
enough that no one has groused much about it.

- Mark

[Craig Prouse]

(PaulaJay1) wrote:

> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to $100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?

No registration fee in CA, but I pay over $2000/yr in property tax on my
C182.

[Craig Prouse]

"BTIZ" > wrote:

> Pilot registration???
>
> Is this another case of States trying to take over Federal government?

The fees are used to fund SAR operations, and the state aeronautics
board sends out a nice quarterly newsletter. I'm not even based in
Oregon, but I fly up there a lot so I register and pay the fee just to
receive the newsletter.


> and does that mean my Federal Pilot certificate is not valid in that state
> if I don't pay their registration??

No. I don't think there is even any requirement to carry proof of
registration.


> doubt it.. remind me not to move there...

It would probably be a net win for you actually, since you wouldn't have
to pay NV property tax on your airframe. Oregon is pretty
aviation-friendly relative to most states, except for the weather.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Nathan Young wrote:
>
> I wonder why the significant delta. Perhaps your gas tax is lower
> than ours?

The delta is easily explained. North Carolina and Florida are the two most
popular
States to which people from the northeast retire. As a result, they have
significant
and growing segments of the population who have small incomes and use greater
than
average public resources. Most of these people, however, do have lots of
personal
possessions. North Carolina has tackled the problem by levying yearly taxes on
personal property.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[BTIZ]

> It would probably be a net win for you actually, since you wouldn't have
> to pay NV property tax on your airframe. Oregon is pretty
> aviation-friendly relative to most states, except for the weather.

you are probably correct in that assumption... but for the weather.. you
don't have to shovel sunshine... and the rain/fog is not a problem in
Southern NV

BT

[Tyler Parsons]

No take-over whatever. You submit your name, address, and I forget what
else but not a lot, plus the fee ($16/2 years) and they send you a card.
I have heard of no penalties, so far, but last legislative session, the
DoA was trying to get some teeth in enforcement written into the law.

Your federal certificate is still valid, of course.

The money goes to the Department of Aviation (not the general fund - we
have a semi-independent DoA) for search and rescue. Pretty cheap, if you
ask me, and certainly for a good cause.

Tyler


BTIZ wrote:
> Pilot registration???
>
> Is this another case of States trying to take over Federal government?
>
> and does that mean my Federal Pilot certificate is not valid in that state
> if I don't pay their registration??
>
> doubt it.. remind me not to move there...
>
> BT
>
> "Tyler" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Oregon
>>
>>Pilot registration - $8 /yr
>>Single engine fixed wing $50 /yr
>>
>
>
>

[BTIZ]

ahh.. the contributions to a "good cause" that becomes mandatory on everyone
else.. and although just "peanuts" now.. once "teeth" get into it.. the true
cost of SAR goes into the calculations..

My Federal certificate is valid without a state certificate.

BT

"Tyler Parsons" > wrote in message
...
> No take-over whatever. You submit your name, address, and I forget what
> else but not a lot, plus the fee ($16/2 years) and they send you a card.
> I have heard of no penalties, so far, but last legislative session, the
> DoA was trying to get some teeth in enforcement written into the law.
>
> Your federal certificate is still valid, of course.
>
> The money goes to the Department of Aviation (not the general fund - we
> have a semi-independent DoA) for search and rescue. Pretty cheap, if you
> ask me, and certainly for a good cause.
>
> Tyler
>
>
> BTIZ wrote:
> > Pilot registration???
> >
> > Is this another case of States trying to take over Federal government?
> >
> > and does that mean my Federal Pilot certificate is not valid in that
state
> > if I don't pay their registration??
> >
> > doubt it.. remind me not to move there...
> >
> > BT
> >
> > "Tyler" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Oregon
> >>
> >>Pilot registration - $8 /yr
> >>Single engine fixed wing $50 /yr
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

[Ray Andraka]

$110/yr "in lieu of property taxes" for my Cherokee Six in Rhode Island. Been
that way since at least 1995.

PaulaJay1 wrote:

> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my Archer,
> N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to $100
> (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
>
> Chuck

--
--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
Ray Andraka > wrote:

> $110/yr "in lieu of property taxes" for my Cherokee Six in Rhode Island.
> Been
> that way since at least 1995.
>
> PaulaJay1 wrote:
>
> > I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my
> > Archer,
> > N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to
> > $100
> > (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other states
> > charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
> >
> > Chuck

California charges 1% of the "fair marlet value". NONE of it goes to
aviation purposes!

I am unaware of any aircraft tax in Florida, other than sales tax.

[PaulaJay1]

In article
>, Orval
Fairbairn > writes:

> I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my
>> > Archer,
>> > N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to
>> > $100
>> > (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other
>states
>> > charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
>> >
>> > Chuck
>
>California charges 1% of the "fair marlet value". NONE of it goes to
>aviation purposes!

At least in Ohio it goes for airports, so they say.

Chuck

[Newps]

PaulaJay1 wrote:

>>California charges 1% of the "fair marlet value". NONE of it goes to
>>aviation purposes!
>
>
> At least in Ohio it goes for airports, so they say.

Here in Montana you are billed by, and send the money to, the
Aeronautics Department. They use the money for all things aviation.

[Dave]

"Craig Prouse" > wrote in message
...
> (PaulaJay1) wrote:
>
> > I just got the bill from the State of Ohio for the registration of my
Archer,
> > N2185B. Seems they need more money so the bill went from $12 (2003) to
$100
> > (2004). Can't believe the % increase but it's true. What do other
states
> > charge? Is Ohio now out of line or were we underpaying before?
>
> No registration fee in CA, but I pay over $2000/yr in property tax on my
> C182.

Wow! I only have to pay $1600 a year property tax on my house and nothing on
anything else I own in the UK.

Mind you there is 60 cents a litre tax on fuel bring the cost of a gallon up
to nearly $6 a US gallon.

[Rosspilot]

>Wow! I only have to pay $1600 a year property tax on my house and nothing on
>anything else I own in the UK.

Geeze . . . my property tax on my house alone is over $8000/year (the lion's
share goes to the School District, the rest is County and Town, and Fire
District, and Library District and Solid Waste Authority and Sewer District and
.. . . it's so ridiculous.
Fortunately, I am not taxed on my airplane.

www.Rosspilot.com

[Jack Cunniff]

(Rosspilot) writes:

>>Wow! I only have to pay $1600 a year property tax on my house and nothing on
>>anything else I own in the UK.

>Geeze . . . my property tax on my house alone is over $8000/year (the lion's
>share goes to the School District, the rest is County and Town, and Fire
>District, and Library District and Solid Waste Authority and Sewer District and
>. . . it's so ridiculous.
>Fortunately, I am not taxed on my airplane.

Here in Taxachusetts, my 2004 state registration was $165. Oh, and
another $20 for my picture ID and my car's "airport parking" tag.

Having said that, the Massachusetts Aero Commission -has- put a lot of
visible improvements back into the GA airports in the state recently, and
I don't mean just the MassPort ones.

-Jack

[Brant Hohnstein]

In Colorado you are levied a 6% tax on the purchase price of the aircraft
the the first year you purchased it. After that no additional state tax.
Some municipalities in Colorado have tried to snoop inside hangers to write
down N-numbers and levy their own city use tax on an aircraft owner.