David H
January 9th 04, 09:12 PM
CJ,
I've put up a preliminary map showing the new Puget Sound TFRs - and the old
ones for comparison - up on the Pacific Northwest Flying website. Direct link
here:
http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/pnwflying/Public/tfrs/newoldtfrs.html
(the images are somewhat large to show detail, sorry to those on slow
connections)
I used the info on the FAA's graphical TFR website, so this may or may not be
highly accurate. In any case, I think it does show the changes fairly well.
Now I guess we have to fight to keep these from becoming permanent.
I agree that we all have to be careful with these until the details shake out.
I'll update the images when things change.
Hope somebody finds these helpful.
David H
Boeing Field (BFI), Seattle, WA
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Visit the Pacific Northwest Flying forum:
http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/pnwflying
PS: Looks like we will be getting a vice presidential fundraiser TFR in Seattle
on Jan 13th - watch for details.
C J Campbell wrote:
> The Puget Sound and Hermiston TFRs were rescinded at 11:49 1/9/04 and
> replaced with National Security Areas, possibly as a prelude to permanent
> publication. Jeppesen Flitestar is still showing the old TFRs, however, and
> since the Jepp engine is the one that the FAA and AOPA use on their web
> sites I would advise caution when flying in these areas. Also, the new NSA
> NOTAMs do not specifically say that the old TFRs are rescinded, although
> there is a series of FDC NOTAMS that say this, referencing the new NOTAMS.
> The new NOTAMS do not look like they are accurately plotted. In particular,
> the Bremerton NSA does not cover the shipyard and the Everett NSA is out in
> the middle of the Sound. Seattle FSS has noticed this and is seeking
> clarification.
>
> The new NSAs are much smaller, but the Bangor NSA no longer has a cutout for
> Apex. The ceilings for the NSAs are mostly 100 feet lower than the old TFRs,
> but the Hermiston NSA now only goes to 5000 feet instead of 10,000 feet.
>
> I would give it a day or so before just plunging into the area. It looks
> like some changes are already in the works.
>
> --
> Christopher J. Campbell
> World Famous Flight Instructor
> Port Orchard, WA
>
> If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals.
I've put up a preliminary map showing the new Puget Sound TFRs - and the old
ones for comparison - up on the Pacific Northwest Flying website. Direct link
here:
http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/pnwflying/Public/tfrs/newoldtfrs.html
(the images are somewhat large to show detail, sorry to those on slow
connections)
I used the info on the FAA's graphical TFR website, so this may or may not be
highly accurate. In any case, I think it does show the changes fairly well.
Now I guess we have to fight to keep these from becoming permanent.
I agree that we all have to be careful with these until the details shake out.
I'll update the images when things change.
Hope somebody finds these helpful.
David H
Boeing Field (BFI), Seattle, WA
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Visit the Pacific Northwest Flying forum:
http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/pnwflying
PS: Looks like we will be getting a vice presidential fundraiser TFR in Seattle
on Jan 13th - watch for details.
C J Campbell wrote:
> The Puget Sound and Hermiston TFRs were rescinded at 11:49 1/9/04 and
> replaced with National Security Areas, possibly as a prelude to permanent
> publication. Jeppesen Flitestar is still showing the old TFRs, however, and
> since the Jepp engine is the one that the FAA and AOPA use on their web
> sites I would advise caution when flying in these areas. Also, the new NSA
> NOTAMs do not specifically say that the old TFRs are rescinded, although
> there is a series of FDC NOTAMS that say this, referencing the new NOTAMS.
> The new NOTAMS do not look like they are accurately plotted. In particular,
> the Bremerton NSA does not cover the shipyard and the Everett NSA is out in
> the middle of the Sound. Seattle FSS has noticed this and is seeking
> clarification.
>
> The new NSAs are much smaller, but the Bangor NSA no longer has a cutout for
> Apex. The ceilings for the NSAs are mostly 100 feet lower than the old TFRs,
> but the Hermiston NSA now only goes to 5000 feet instead of 10,000 feet.
>
> I would give it a day or so before just plunging into the area. It looks
> like some changes are already in the works.
>
> --
> Christopher J. Campbell
> World Famous Flight Instructor
> Port Orchard, WA
>
> If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals.