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PaulaJay1
January 11th 04, 05:48 PM
I just replaced the nose tire after 6 years 798 landings. Do I have the
record? It was ( and the new is) an Aero Trainer so, you see, I only use the
best. :-)

Chuck

BTIZ
January 11th 04, 06:59 PM
LOL.. very funny... but how many tail wheel tires have you gone through...


"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
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> PaulaJay1 wrote:
> >
> > I just replaced the nose tire after 6 years 798 landings. Do I have the
> > record?
>
> Well, I bought my Maule in 1995, and I've never had to replace the nose
tire at
> all! :-)
>
> George Patterson
> Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually
said is
> "Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

G.R. Patterson III
January 11th 04, 09:21 PM
PaulaJay1 wrote:
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> I just replaced the nose tire after 6 years 798 landings. Do I have the
> record?

Well, I bought my Maule in 1995, and I've never had to replace the nose tire at
all! :-)

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

BTIZ
January 12th 04, 12:43 AM
ROFLMAO...

BT

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
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> BTIZ wrote:
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> > LOL.. very funny... but how many tail wheel tires have you gone
through...
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> I'm on my second one.
>
> Spoilsport. :-(
>
> George Patterson
> Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually
said is
> "Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

G.R. Patterson III
January 12th 04, 01:57 AM
BTIZ wrote:
>
> LOL.. very funny... but how many tail wheel tires have you gone through...

I'm on my second one.

Spoilsport. :-(

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Foster
January 12th 04, 04:21 PM
My understanding is that, if you fly primarily off of a sod (actually
probably more accurate to say - if you land primarily on a sod) runway,
replacing tires is just an urban legend.

JJF

PaulaJay1 wrote:
> I just replaced the nose tire after 6 years 798 landings. Do I have the
> record? It was ( and the new is) an Aero Trainer so, you see, I only use the
> best. :-)
>
> Chuck

Orval Fairbairn
January 12th 04, 06:57 PM
In article >,
Foster > wrote:

> My understanding is that, if you fly primarily off of a sod (actually
> probably more accurate to say - if you land primarily on a sod) runway,
> replacing tires is just an urban legend.
>
> JJF
>
> PaulaJay1 wrote:
> > I just replaced the nose tire after 6 years 798 landings. Do I have the
> > record? It was ( and the new is) an Aero Trainer so, you see, I only use
> > the
> > best. :-)
> >
> > Chuck
>

No record there -- I had my 5.00X4 nose tire on my Johnson Rocket for at
least 20 years and 1000+ hours.

Dan Thomas
January 13th 04, 12:49 AM
Orval Fairbairn > wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> Foster > wrote:
>
> > My understanding is that, if you fly primarily off of a sod (actually
> > probably more accurate to say - if you land primarily on a sod) runway,
> > replacing tires is just an urban legend.

Landing technique has a big effect on tire life. I often see
pliots landing fast and in a flat attitude, often touching down on all
three tires, then braking hard to try to keep the thing from running
off the end of the runway.
Owners who hold the airplane off until it just won't fly anymore
will get better tire life, and if they plan their approaches to touch
down where they should, they'll get better brake life, too.
An old jet jock told me that the tires on the heavies are worn
more by braking than by the touchdown.

Dan

John Galban
January 14th 04, 12:34 AM
(Dan Thomas) wrote in message >...
> An old jet jock told me that the tires on the heavies are worn
> more by braking than by the touchdown.
>
I'd tend to agree with that. I've been through quite a few main gear
tires over the years, but only 1 nose tire. And that nose tire was
replaced because of sidewall cracking. The tread was still in
excellent shape. I think that all that braking is tough on those
little tires.

I have a friend that wore out a set of mains on his taildragger in
less than a year (about 130 hrs.). It was his first year with a
taildragger and he tended to use the brakes a lot to control his taxi
speed. He's much better at it since he got the tire bill.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Hankal
January 14th 04, 12:52 AM
> I have a friend that wore out a set of mains on his taildragger in
>less than a year (about 130 hrs.). It was his first year with a
>taildragger and he tended to use the brakes a lot to control his taxi
>speed. He's much better at it since he got the tire bill

Some flight schools teach to use the brakes for steering.
They do not pay for the brakes or tires.
I use rudder for steering unless I have to make a very sharp turn.
Cessna 172 pilot.

Ronnie D. Hughes
January 14th 04, 04:52 AM
I have first hand experience that braking is hard on tires. This
past Sunday while instructing a student pilot in short filed landings,
and after cautioning him not to skid the tires with the brakes, he
skidded the tires and promptly blew out the left main. Ruined
the rest of the day dealing with that. He just froze on the brakes
and I couldn't get him off the pedals quick enough. Rubbed a
silver dollar sized hole in the tire and tube.


"John Galban" > wrote in message
om...
> (Dan Thomas) wrote in message
>...
> > An old jet jock told me that the tires on the heavies are worn
> > more by braking than by the touchdown.
> >
> I'd tend to agree with that. I've been through quite a few main gear
> tires over the years, but only 1 nose tire. And that nose tire was
> replaced because of sidewall cracking. The tread was still in
> excellent shape. I think that all that braking is tough on those
> little tires.
>
> I have a friend that wore out a set of mains on his taildragger in
> less than a year (about 130 hrs.). It was his first year with a
> taildragger and he tended to use the brakes a lot to control his taxi
> speed. He's much better at it since he got the tire bill.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

John Galban
January 14th 04, 03:54 PM
"Ronnie D. Hughes" > wrote in message >...
> I have first hand experience that braking is hard on tires. This
> past Sunday while instructing a student pilot in short filed landings,
> and after cautioning him not to skid the tires with the brakes, he
> skidded the tires and promptly blew out the left main. Ruined
> the rest of the day dealing with that. He just froze on the brakes
> and I couldn't get him off the pedals quick enough. Rubbed a
> silver dollar sized hole in the tire and tube.
>
>
I see a lot of pilots (mostly students) screeching the brakes down
the runway. I think it's the lack of feedback from those tiny wheel
brakes. They are very unlike modern car brakes and you have to get
used to them. You often don't know if you're locked up until you hear
the sound. Even then, with all of the other ambient noise, it's hard
to pick out at first.

I'd hate to have to be the one who buys tires (or brake pads) for
trainers :-(

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

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