Old ADF and XPNDR parts

[Ben Smith]

Most of my panel is newer King stuff, except for the ARC ADF and Cessna 300
transponder. The ADF and XPNDR kind of 'stand out' because they have the
yellowish colored faceplates. So I thought it would be nice to find the
black colored faceplates for both, so they match the other radios.

I've looked on ebay, are there any other sources for those faceplates?

I know, it'd be nice to just get a new transponder, and ditch the ADF, but
we just spent most of our reserve on a new encoder, and DG. TIA,

--
Ben
C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y

[Dan Thompson]

Krylon makes a spray-on black coating (aka spray paint). If done carefully
it would look pretty good. Take the radios out first, which you are allowed
to do if they are the tray type.

"Ben Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Most of my panel is newer King stuff, except for the ARC ADF and Cessna
300
> transponder. The ADF and XPNDR kind of 'stand out' because they have the
> yellowish colored faceplates. So I thought it would be nice to find the
> black colored faceplates for both, so they match the other radios.
>
> I've looked on ebay, are there any other sources for those faceplates?
>
> I know, it'd be nice to just get a new transponder, and ditch the ADF, but
> we just spent most of our reserve on a new encoder, and DG. TIA,
>
> --
> Ben
> C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y
>
>

[Ben Jackson]

In article >,
Dan Thompson > wrote:
>Krylon makes a spray-on black coating (aka spray paint). If done carefully
>it would look pretty good. Take the radios out first, which you are allowed
>to do if they are the tray type.

DME and transponders are excluded from that.

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

[dave]

http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/fp_list.htm#arc/cessna

They have a large variety of faceplate overlays.

I bought one for my autopilot and it came out great!!

Dave

Ben Jackson wrote:
> In article >,
> Dan Thompson > wrote:
>
>>Krylon makes a spray-on black coating (aka spray paint). If done carefully
>>it would look pretty good. Take the radios out first, which you are allowed
>>to do if they are the tray type.
>
>
> DME and transponders are excluded from that.
>

[Dave Stadt]

"Ben Jackson" > wrote in message
news:sPjOb.77910$nt4.114409@attbi_s51...
> In article >,
> Dan Thompson > wrote:
> >Krylon makes a spray-on black coating (aka spray paint). If done
carefully
> >it would look pretty good. Take the radios out first, which you are
allowed
> >to do if they are the tray type.
>
> DME and transponders are excluded from that.

He can take out anything he wants. It's the puttin back in that the FAA has
rules about.


>
> --
> Ben Jackson
> >
> http://www.ben.com/

[Martin Kosina]

> http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/fp_list.htm#arc/cessna
> They have a large variety of faceplate overlays.
>
> I bought one for my autopilot and it came out great!!
>
> Dave

I got one for a RT-459 transponder and it also fit perfectly. The
labels are transparent so the backlighting still works like on the
original faceplates.

Martin

[Jim Weir]

The hell you say.

Jim


(Ben Jackson)
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

Take the radios out first, which you are allowed
->>to do if they are the tray type.
->


->DME and transponders are excluded from that.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Ben Smith]

> He can take out anything he wants. It's the puttin back in that the FAA
has
> rules about.

Who has the authority to re-install the ADF and Transponders once I have
them re-finished? Any A&P or does it need to be an avioniker?

[Jim Weir]

"Refinish? What refinish? That's the way they were when I bought the plane."

Jim


"Ben Smith" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->> He can take out anything he wants. It's the puttin back in that the FAA
->has
->> rules about.
->
->Who has the authority to re-install the ADF and Transponders once I have
->them re-finished? Any A&P or does it need to be an avioniker?
->

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Ben Jackson]

In article >,
Dave Stadt > wrote:
>>
>> DME and transponders are excluded from that.
>
>He can take out anything he wants. It's the puttin back in that the FAA has
>rules about.

Part 43 appendix A (c)(31) says:

Removing and replacing self-contained, front instrument panel-mounted
navigation and communication devices that employ tray-mounted connectors
that connect the unit when the unit is installed into the instrument
panel, (excluding automatic flight control systems, transponders, and
microwave frequency distance measuring equipment (DME)). The approved
unit must be designed to be readily and repeatedly removed and replaced,
and pertinent instructions must be provided. Prior to the unit's intended
use, and operational check must be performed in accordance with the
applicable sections of part 91 of this chapter.

How about people with snarky comments about how you can 'remove anything'
explain which authority that's under?

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

[Jim Weir]

Read it again, Ben.

It says "removing AND replacing"... not "removing AND/OR replacing". Thus, it
prohibits the DUAL action of removing and replacing, not simple removing nor
simple replacing.

That ain't snarky, that's logic and construction.

Jim


(Ben Jackson)
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


->>He can take out anything he wants. It's the puttin back in that the FAA has
->>rules about.
->
->Part 43 appendix A (c)(31) says:
->
->Removing and replacing self-contained, front instrument panel-mounted
->navigation and communication devices that employ tray-mounted connectors

->How about people with snarky comments about how you can 'remove anything'
->explain which authority that's under?


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Ben Jackson]

In article >,
Jim Weir > wrote:
>Read it again, Ben.
>
>It says "removing AND replacing"... not "removing AND/OR replacing". Thus, it
>prohibits the DUAL action of removing and replacing, not simple removing nor
>simple replacing.

You mean it *permits* removing AND replacing. It doesn't permit doing
anything else. Of course I don't have the special training A&Ps get in
creative interpretation of part 43...

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

[G.R. Patterson III]

Ben Smith wrote:
>
> > He can take out anything he wants. It's the puttin back in that the FAA
> has
> > rules about.
>
> Who has the authority to re-install the ADF and Transponders once I have
> them re-finished? Any A&P or does it need to be an avioniker?

Anyone has the authority to re-install them. An avionics tech must check to make
sure they are still accurate before you can use them again.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."