Differences between Garmin 295 and 196?

[carlos]

I'm in the market for a moving-map aviation GPS, and trying to decide
between Garmin's color 295 and their grayscale 196.

The 196 is a newer model, has a better screen and more functions, but the
295 offers a color screen. (Why Garmin doesn't offer a color 196, I don't
understand. They already offer the 176C, which is a marine version of the
196 in color - Does anyone know why????).

So, is there anyone with experience with both GPSs (the 295 and 196)? Any
comments? Recommendations?

Thanks,

CGP.

PS: This is for a 1977 Cessna 206.

[C J Campbell]

"carlos" > wrote in message
...
| I'm in the market for a moving-map aviation GPS, and trying to decide
| between Garmin's color 295 and their grayscale 196.
|
| The 196 is a newer model, has a better screen and more functions, but the
| 295 offers a color screen. (Why Garmin doesn't offer a color 196, I don't
| understand. They already offer the 176C, which is a marine version of the
| 196 in color - Does anyone know why????).
|
| So, is there anyone with experience with both GPSs (the 295 and 196)? Any
| comments? Recommendations?
|

Yes. Wait for the GARMIN 296, which is due out in a few weeks. It is a color
version of the 196. GARMIN has let a few people see the 296, on pain of
death if they reveal its existence -- which is the surest way to get free
publicity that I know of.

I personally have used the 295 ever since it came out. It is a nice unit,
but battery life is relatively short compared to the 195, which was its
black and white contemporary. It has a lot more features than the 195,
though. The 196 does have a better screen, but the additional functions
don't seem all that useful. Who really wants to keep their logbook on a GPS?

[Dude]

The 196 does have a better screen, but the additional functions
> don't seem all that useful. Who really wants to keep their logbook on a
GPS?


Do you not think the backup panel is useful? I haven't seen one, but that
sounds useful to me.

As for the logbook, I agree that it doesn't sound too useful. This comment
struck a chord with me because it always feels like I am paying extra for
functionality I don't want.

OUT

[Nathan Young]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:01:48 -0800, "C J Campbell"
> wrote:

>
>"carlos" > wrote in message
...
>| I'm in the market for a moving-map aviation GPS, and trying to decide
>| between Garmin's color 295 and their grayscale 196.
>|
>| The 196 is a newer model, has a better screen and more functions, but the
>| 295 offers a color screen. (Why Garmin doesn't offer a color 196, I don't
>| understand. They already offer the 176C, which is a marine version of the
>| 196 in color - Does anyone know why????).
>|
>| So, is there anyone with experience with both GPSs (the 295 and 196)? Any
>| comments? Recommendations?
>|
>
>Yes. Wait for the GARMIN 296, which is due out in a few weeks. It is a color
>version of the 196. GARMIN has let a few people see the 296, on pain of
>death if they reveal its existence -- which is the surest way to get free
>publicity that I know of.
>
>I personally have used the 295 ever since it came out. It is a nice unit,
>but battery life is relatively short compared to the 195, which was its
>black and white contemporary. It has a lot more features than the 195,
>though. The 196 does have a better screen, but the additional functions
>don't seem all that useful. Who really wants to keep their logbook on a GPS?


I have a 295. Flown with it for about 3 years. It is great, I would
buy another in a hearbeat. The color display is great as well,
although I've not flown with a 196, I've seen them in AvShops, and
prefer the 295 display.

If there really is a 296 coming out - it would be worth the wait - and
the additional cost.

-Nathan

[Joe Dubner]

I played with the "backup panel" feature of my Garmin 196 but decided it
wasn't of any value unless I practiced flying with it a lot (something I
don't want to do as I'd have to give up the moving map to use it).
Everyone I know personally flying with a 196 has turned that feature
off. I generally fly with the moving map/HSI screen.

OTOH, I find the logbook very useful. I don't "keep a logbook on the
GPS"; I download the logbook to a PC periodically where the log is kept,
then I clear the GPS log. It has some cute features: it records the
number of landings, maximum speed and altitude reached on each flight
for what that's worth. I like the sunrise/sunset display too -- helps
me figure out ETA with respect to darkness.

I feel like I got a lot of value for the $840 I paid for it six months
ago. Bit I wish it had an obstruction database like my two Lowrance
Airmaps that eventually croaked.

--
Joe
Long-EZ 821RP
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On 22-Jan-04 17:06 Dude wrote:

> The 196 does have a better screen, but the additional functions
>> don't seem all that useful. Who really wants to keep their logbook on a
> GPS?
>
>
> Do you not think the backup panel is useful? I haven't seen one, but that
> sounds useful to me.
>
> As for the logbook, I agree that it doesn't sound too useful. This comment
> struck a chord with me because it always feels like I am paying extra for
> functionality I don't want.
>
> OUT

[Dale]

I have used the 195 & 295. Now I own the 196. So far the 196 is the best
of the bunch in my opinion. Yes the color is cool, but the processor speed
of the 195 & 295 is to slow. When it comes to using the cursor on screen or
just moving from 1 page to another the 196 is very fast. Now when I use a
195 ro 295 I really notice the speed difference. I would not give up my
196 for a 295, but I will sure take a look at the 296 when it comes out.

Dale (FFZ-AZ)



"carlos" > wrote in message
...
> I'm in the market for a moving-map aviation GPS, and trying to decide
> between Garmin's color 295 and their grayscale 196.
>
> The 196 is a newer model, has a better screen and more functions, but the
> 295 offers a color screen. (Why Garmin doesn't offer a color 196, I don't
> understand. They already offer the 176C, which is a marine version of the
> 196 in color - Does anyone know why????).
>
> So, is there anyone with experience with both GPSs (the 295 and 196)? Any
> comments? Recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
>
> CGP.
>
> PS: This is for a 1977 Cessna 206.
>
>




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[Dude]

Hmm, I think that panel may be worth a lot during a vacuum failure, but
maybe not without any practice.

As much as I love computers, I still keep my log by hand. Maybe when I
finish getting through a few more ratings, and don't need the instructors
signature all the time, I will try a computer log.


"Joe Dubner" > wrote in message
...
> I played with the "backup panel" feature of my Garmin 196 but decided it
> wasn't of any value unless I practiced flying with it a lot (something I
> don't want to do as I'd have to give up the moving map to use it).
> Everyone I know personally flying with a 196 has turned that feature
> off. I generally fly with the moving map/HSI screen.
>
> OTOH, I find the logbook very useful. I don't "keep a logbook on the
> GPS"; I download the logbook to a PC periodically where the log is kept,
> then I clear the GPS log. It has some cute features: it records the
> number of landings, maximum speed and altitude reached on each flight
> for what that's worth. I like the sunrise/sunset display too -- helps
> me figure out ETA with respect to darkness.
>
> I feel like I got a lot of value for the $840 I paid for it six months
> ago. Bit I wish it had an obstruction database like my two Lowrance
> Airmaps that eventually croaked.
>
> --
> Joe
> Long-EZ 821RP
> (Remove "NOSPAM" to reply via Email)
>
>
> On 22-Jan-04 17:06 Dude wrote:
>
> > The 196 does have a better screen, but the additional functions
> >> don't seem all that useful. Who really wants to keep their logbook on a
> > GPS?
> >
> >
> > Do you not think the backup panel is useful? I haven't seen one, but
that
> > sounds useful to me.
> >
> > As for the logbook, I agree that it doesn't sound too useful. This
comment
> > struck a chord with me because it always feels like I am paying extra
for
> > functionality I don't want.
> >
> > OUT

[Thomas Borchert]

Carlos,

Did you look at the Lowrance 1000, too? Quite interesting.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Rosspilot]

I fly with the 196 and LOVE it. I would use the panel page in an emergency
only, as I use the moving map page 95% of the time.



www.Rosspilot.com

[Jay Honeck]

> Did you look at the Lowrance 1000, too? Quite interesting.

And check out the AvMap color GPS. It's awesome!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[John Clonts]

Do you know which of these, if any, will record tracks in 3D (i.e. including
altitude). I believe none of the Lowrance units (including the new Airmap
500 and Airmap 1000) can do this.

Thanks!
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

"Dale" > wrote in message
...
> I have used the 195 & 295. Now I own the 196. So far the 196 is the best
> of the bunch in my opinion. Yes the color is cool, but the processor
speed
> of the 195 & 295 is to slow. When it comes to using the cursor on screen
or
> just moving from 1 page to another the 196 is very fast. Now when I use a
> 195 ro 295 I really notice the speed difference. I would not give up my
> 196 for a 295, but I will sure take a look at the 296 when it comes out.
>
> Dale (FFZ-AZ)
>
>
>
> "carlos" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm in the market for a moving-map aviation GPS, and trying to decide
> > between Garmin's color 295 and their grayscale 196.
> >
> > The 196 is a newer model, has a better screen and more functions, but
the
> > 295 offers a color screen. (Why Garmin doesn't offer a color 196, I
don't
> > understand. They already offer the 176C, which is a marine version of
the
> > 196 in color - Does anyone know why????).
> >
> > So, is there anyone with experience with both GPSs (the 295 and 196)?
Any
> > comments? Recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > CGP.
> >
> > PS: This is for a 1977 Cessna 206.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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[John Clonts]

Have you figured out yet whether its recorded tracks include altitude info?

Thanks,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:rraQb.3087$U%5.17469@attbi_s03...
> > Did you look at the Lowrance 1000, too? Quite interesting.
>
> And check out the AvMap color GPS. It's awesome!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[John Smith]

Does that mean that 5% of your flying is in emergency status???

"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
> I fly with the 196 and LOVE it. I would use the panel page in an
emergency
> only, as I use the moving map page 95% of the time.
>
>
>
> www.Rosspilot.com
>
>




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[Rosspilot]

>"Rosspilot" > wrote in message

>> I fly with the 196 and LOVE it. I would use the panel page in an
>emergency
>> only, as I use the moving map page 95% of the time.
>>

Smithy>Does that mean that 5% of your flying is in emergency status???
>
LOL . . . thank God no. But the 196 has 5 screens, and I do flip around
sometimes just for a little variety.
www.Rosspilot.com

[Jay Honeck]

> Have you figured out yet whether its recorded tracks include altitude
info?

Sorry, John, I haven't.

I have no real utility for this piece of info, so I keep forgetting to
check!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[FurorInbound]

>Yes. Wait for the GARMIN 296, which is due out in a few weeks. It is a color
>version of the 196. GARMIN has let a few people see the 296, on pain of
>death if they reveal its existence -- which is the surest way to get free
>publicity that I know of.

I called Garmin today based on your comments. The rep I talked to stated that
they were not coming out with a color screen for the 196. So how did you get
your info before the rest of us. Also do you know when it is coming out. I
was wanting to buy a new GPS here in the next few weeks after I get done
looking at all of them. But if Garmin has something new I would like to wait
to see when it will come out

[Mike Z.]

They told me the same thing a year ago.

Middle of February I am ordering Anywhere Map. The Bluetooth thing and Jeppesen's prices for plates put me over the top.

......Of course unless Garmin rolls out the next gen. You sure can have your pick of car GPS with color.

Buggers.

Mike Z


"FurorInbound" > wrote in message ...

> I called Garmin today based on your comments. The rep I talked to stated that
> they were not coming out with a color screen for the 196. So how did you get
> your info before the rest of us. Also do you know when it is coming out. I
> was wanting to buy a new GPS here in the next few weeks after I get done
> looking at all of them. But if Garmin has something new I would like to wait
> to see when it will come out

[C J Campbell]

"FurorInbound" > wrote in message
...
| >Yes. Wait for the GARMIN 296, which is due out in a few weeks. It is a
color
| >version of the 196. GARMIN has let a few people see the 296, on pain of
| >death if they reveal its existence -- which is the surest way to get free
| >publicity that I know of.
|
| I called Garmin today based on your comments. The rep I talked to stated
that
| they were not coming out with a color screen for the 196.

Who said anything about a color screen for the 196?

OK, Garmin is very secretive. They don't tell the reps anything. At
Arlington last year I had photos in hand of the Garmin 1000 and the reps
knew nothing about it even though Cessna had already announced that they
were putting the system in the Mustang.

The 296 is coming. The only question is when. I suspect they may introduce
it at Sun 'n' Fun.