What tools do you take?

[Michael Horowitz]

What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

[Dale]

In article >, Michael Horowitz
> wrote:

> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

How much are you competent, willing to do that will require tools?

For me it was a screwdriver (multi-tip), safety wire and pliers, plug wrench, a
few open end wrenchs.

--
Dale L. Falk


There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.
http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

[Dave Stadt]

"Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
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> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

Credit card and cell phone.

[Mark Astley]

My XC kit:

qt of oil
disposable oil funnels
spark plug socket and driver
an extra plug or two plus gaskets
multi tip screw driver
adjustable spanner and pliers
Prist and plexiglass safe wipes
jumper cables (piper style)
camping power supply (this is coleman battery which has a lighter adapter as
well as jumper cable attachments)

This is for the plane, you may want other things for you depending on where
you're going. Example: over mountains enroute throw a coat in the back. My
kit developed over time to cover some problems one might encounter after
landing somewhere off the beaten path, e.g.:

- low oil
- fouled plug
- bug spattered windows
- dead battery
- random crap which needs to be tightened, etc.

mark


"Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
...
> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

[G.R. Patterson III]

Michael Horowitz wrote:
>
> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

I carry a small toolbox in the back of the plane all the time. It has a cheap
wire twister, some safety wire, a screwdriver with multiple bits, a crescent
wrench, a spare tailwheel tube, a small can of 3-in-1, an assortment of trim
screws, a spare landing light bulb, and a few feet of duct tape. I also carry
spare tie-down ropes.

If I think I'll need them, I'll throw in some tie-down stakes and a hammer.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[Blanche]

Dave Stadt > wrote:
>
>"Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
>> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike
>
>Credit card and cell phone.

Cash and a cell phone.

[C J Campbell]

"Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
...
> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

I figure a Leatherman Wave and some quarts of oil is about as much as I can
handle.

[Dude]

> Credit card and cell phone.
>

In reality, I have to say that these are my main tools too.

My plane came with a tool kit, and I carry a spare qt of oil. Nearing 500
hobbs hours and nothing that I could fix has been a cause for delay. Had to
wait a day for parts once.

New is nice :)

[Jay Honeck]

> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

A quart of oil, and my Leatherman tool. In nine years of cross country
flying, I've never needed anything but the oil. (I did lose a starter on a
trip, but I couldn't have fixed that.)

If I'm camping, I'll bring more tools -- but they're not primarily for the
plane.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
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> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

Hershey bars and nylons....and a small tool kit about the size of an
bathroom kit.

[Jim Weir]

'bout what was in the survival kits aboard the B-52s in "Dr. Strangelove".

....six pack of condoms, four pairs of ladies nylons, two ounces of gold
bullion...

Jim

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Ray Andraka]

add a clean T-shirt and change of underwear. You'll be glad you have it
if something breaks and can't be fixed until the morning. Been there
done that.

Tom Sixkiller wrote:

> "Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike
>
> Hershey bars and nylons....and a small tool kit about the size of an
> bathroom kit.

--
--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

[Doug]

I do a LOT of my own maintenance (with A&P signoff). I have a little
red tool box, a little bigger than a lunch box. If I need a tool I
don't have, it then goes into the little red (I have a BIG tool box
too). I pretty much have a full set of mechanics tools in there. But
only the sockets and wrenches I know I need. BTW, you don't need a
safetywire tool, safety wire can be done with pliers. And I want it to
be light. Little red weighs about 10-15 lbs, I would guess. It's all
SNAPON tools. The guys really like em when they come out, and so do I
(NOTHING fits the hand like a Snapon). I also have what I need to
repair a flat.

But I'll admit, if you stay at airports, there is usually a mechanic
to fix what is wrong. The real problem is PARTS. I carry a couple of
extra spark plugs and an inner tube, two quarts of oil. There is
really no way to anticipate what parts you will need. Have some duct
tape.

Also carry some water, candy bars, a warm coat, blanket and some warm
boots this time of year, as well as something to start a fire with and
a first aid kit. A flare gun is a great idea also, and some red tape
to make a cross on the ground (or a distress flag).

One thing, if I carry my tool kit, Murphy says I won't need it. But
watch out when I don't bring it!

[Mike Rapoport]

"Doug" > wrote in message
om...
> I do a LOT of my own maintenance (with A&P signoff). I have a little
> red tool box, a little bigger than a lunch box. If I need a tool I
> don't have, it then goes into the little red (I have a BIG tool box
> too). I pretty much have a full set of mechanics tools in there. But
> only the sockets and wrenches I know I need. BTW, you don't need a
> safetywire tool, safety wire can be done with pliers. And I want it to
> be light. Little red weighs about 10-15 lbs, I would guess. It's all
> SNAPON tools. The guys really like em when they come out, and so do I
> (NOTHING fits the hand like a Snapon). I also have what I need to
> repair a flat.
>

A little off topic, but how does *anyone* afford Snapon tools? Their 1/4
socket set is about $1100!

Mike
MU-2

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
>
> A little off topic, but how does *anyone* afford Snapon tools? Their 1/4
> socket set is about $1100!
>
E-Gawd...I've got a 100 piece Craftsman set that's about 30 years old, that
I paid $60 for and still going strong. I never broke one, but I did swallow
one once.

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Ray Andraka" > wrote in message
...
> add a clean T-shirt and change of underwear. You'll be glad you have it
> if something breaks and can't be fixed until the morning. Been there
> done that.

Underwear for me or for the babes I give the nylons and Hershey bars to?

> Tom Sixkiller wrote:
>
> > "Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike
> >
> > Hershey bars and nylons....and a small tool kit about the size of an
> > bathroom kit.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Mike Rapoport wrote:
>
> A little off topic, but how does *anyone* afford Snapon tools? Their 1/4
> socket set is about $1100!

I'm with you on that. They had a tent at Osh a few years ago, and I priced some
stuff. I decided that my old Craftsman and Mac tools are good enough after all.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[Mike Rapoport]

They are beautiful tools and in some situations the Snapon tool will fit
when the Craftsman tool will not. I was talking to the service manager at
the Ford dealership last week and he told me that their mechanics don't get
a discount.

Mike
MU-2


"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Mike Rapoport wrote:
> >
> > A little off topic, but how does *anyone* afford Snapon tools? Their
1/4
> > socket set is about $1100!
>
> I'm with you on that. They had a tent at Osh a few years ago, and I priced
some
> stuff. I decided that my old Craftsman and Mac tools are good enough after
all.
>
> George Patterson
> A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way
that
> you look forward to the trip.

[TripFarmer]

>
>One thing, if I carry my tool kit, Murphy says I won't need it. But
>watch out when I don't bring it!



Toilet Paper? :o)


Trip

[John Galban]

"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message >...
> "Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike
>
> Hershey bars and nylons....and a small tool kit about the size of an
> bathroom kit.


I didn't realize that there were any B-17 pilots left on this group :-)

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Dave Stadt]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Mike Rapoport wrote:
> >
> > A little off topic, but how does *anyone* afford Snapon tools? Their
1/4
> > socket set is about $1100!
>
> I'm with you on that. They had a tent at Osh a few years ago, and I priced
some
> stuff. I decided that my old Craftsman and Mac tools are good enough after
all.

If you were to use Snap-on for a while you would understand the cost and
realize that Craftsman is pretty much in the crap category.

> George Patterson
> A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way
that
> you look forward to the trip.

[Stu Gotts]

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 21:49:57 GMT, "Dave Stadt" >
wrote:

>If you were to use Snap-on for a while you would understand the cost and
>realize that Craftsman is pretty much in the crap category.

No words more true have been spoken. The difference is when you need
to handle them for a living, you soon appreciate the quality. And
believe it or not, there are some nuts or bolts that will work better
by using a Snap-On. Face it, they couldn't stay in business with
those prices if they didn't have something! Ebay prices have been
reasonable as of late.

FYI - those "Kobalt" tools you can buy at Lowe's are manufactured by
Snap-On. So for some of you folks that can't see spending a fortune
on hand tools, you can get your stuff at a discount hardware store and
possibly have some quality, too.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Stu Gotts wrote:
>
> FYI - those "Kobalt" tools you can buy at Lowe's are manufactured by
> Snap-On. So for some of you folks that can't see spending a fortune
> on hand tools, you can get your stuff at a discount hardware store and
> possibly have some quality, too.

Good to know. I bought a decent set of sockets at Lowes last year, but they
aren't Kobalt.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[bryan chaisone]

"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote
"but I did swallow one once."


Why man? Why?

Bryan "the monk" Chaisone
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rogue's_gallery_a-h.htm#C

"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message >...
> "Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> >
> >
> > A little off topic, but how does *anyone* afford Snapon tools? Their 1/4
> > socket set is about $1100!
> >
> E-Gawd...I've got a 100 piece Craftsman set that's about 30 years old, that
> I paid $60 for and still going strong. I never broke one, but I did swallow
> one once.

[Tom Sixkiller]

"bryan chaisone" > wrote in message
om...
> "Tom Sixkiller" > wrote
> "but I did swallow one once."
>
>
> Why man? Why?
>
> Bryan "the monk" Chaisone

It's a long stroy having to do with using trying to take extra sockets up on
a ladder...

> "Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message
>...
> > >
> > E-Gawd...I've got a 100 piece Craftsman set that's about 30 years old,
that
> > I paid $60 for and still going strong. I never broke one, but I did
swallow
> > one once.

[Bushy]

> > "but I did swallow one once."
> > Why man? Why?
> It's a long stroy having to do with using trying to take extra sockets up
on
> a ladder...
>

At least it's not about your sex life........

;<)

Bushy

[bryan chaisone]

"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message >...
> "bryan chaisone" > wrote in message
> om...
> > "Tom Sixkiller" > wrote
> > "but I did swallow one once."
> >
> >
> > Why man? Why?
> >
> > Bryan "the monk" Chaisone
>
> It's a long stroy having to do with using trying to take extra sockets up on
> a ladder...
>
> > "Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message
> >...
> > > >
> > > E-Gawd...I've got a 100 piece Craftsman set that's about 30 years old,
> that
> > > I paid $60 for and still going strong. I never broke one, but I did
> swallow
> > > one once.

Oh, sounds like one of my brainier ideas to same time or limit the
trips that it would take to do something. I too are of the same
nature.

Bryan "the monk" Chaisone

[Bluejay]

> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

List most things, "it depends".

What tools would you be prepared to use, if you had them? An experienced
mechanic might decide to carry tools that would be inappropriate (or
dangerous) in the hands of someone who hasn't learned yet which end of the
screwdriver to hit with the wrench.

How much weight do you have to work with? Those rivet sets can get
heavy... Related to that is the type of aircraft. A J3 will have
considerably different tool-use possibilities than your Gulfstream V.

Where will you be going? If you're going out into the wilderness, you
might want to take more tools (and parts!) than if you were going to be in
a major metro area.

(remove the i's to reply via email)

[bryan chaisone]

Michael Horowitz > wrote in message >...
> What tools do you take along for a two day XC? - Mike

If I was flying in Alaska, Thailand or Laos, maybe I would take a
shotgun. Did someone else all ready said that?

Bryan

[G.R. Patterson III]

bryan chaisone wrote:
>
> If I was flying in Alaska, Thailand or Laos, maybe I would take a
> shotgun. Did someone else all ready said that?

I think I might prefer an AK-47 for Laos.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[Margy Natalie]

Stu Gotts wrote:

> FYI - those "Kobalt" tools you can buy at Lowe's are manufactured by
> Snap-On. So for some of you folks that can't see spending a fortune
> on hand tools, you can get your stuff at a discount hardware store and
> possibly have some quality, too.

Gee, and I just bought them because they matched the plane :-). I actually
did start with them for that reason and I needed a tool box of a different
color than Ron's, but they are quite nice. They still don't have the
automatic homing device needed for tools in our house, and I've only bought
the stuff that I can't dip out of Ron's box (hey, I bought him nice tools,
someone has to use them!!)

Margy

[[email protected]]

Sooooooooooooooooo..

Probably took a few hours, but did you find out if you were a
3/8 - 1/2 in? - or just a 1/4 drive?

D.


On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:10:44 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller" >
wrote:

>
>"bryan chaisone" > wrote in message
om...
>> "Tom Sixkiller" > wrote
>> "but I did swallow one once."
>>
>>
>> Why man? Why?
>>
>> Bryan "the monk" Chaisone
>
>It's a long stroy having to do with using trying to take extra sockets up on
>a ladder...
>
>> "Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message
>...
>> > >
>> > E-Gawd...I've got a 100 piece Craftsman set that's about 30 years old,
>that
>> > I paid $60 for and still going strong. I never broke one, but I did
>swallow
>> > one once.
>