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Jim Weir
April 3rd 04, 07:53 AM
About a year ago, I posted that I just flat ran out of time to post my
Kitplanes columns for download at www.rstengineering.com/kitplanes.

I had three volunteers that said that they would take the raw data that I
generate for the column, refine it, and post it for download.

Three volunteers rapidly ran to zero. When they saw the work involved, somehow
the volunteer spirit went to zero.

Again I ask...is anybody fool enough to take my Kitplanes column raw data and
put it into downloadable format for the rest of the gang? I just do NOT have
the time to do it.

Jim


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Ira Rampil
April 3rd 04, 04:26 PM
In article >,
Jim Weir > wrote:

> About a year ago, I posted that I just flat ran out of time to post my
> Kitplanes columns for download at www.rstengineering.com/kitplanes.
> Again I ask...is anybody fool enough to take my Kitplanes column raw data and
> put it into downloadable format for the rest of the gang? I just do NOT have
> the time to do it.
>
> Jim
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

Jim,

In the name of public service, I'll take a whack at it.
After all, I really benefitted from your articles and your products.
Time to pass it on, now that N224XS is flying with a lot of ideas
from you and Bob Nuckolls.

Why don't you send me three or four articles to get started along with a
description of the formats. I can handle most anything, except maybe
some schematic formats like .mht, etc.

Ira

Nathan Young
April 3rd 04, 04:35 PM
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 22:53:37 -0800, Jim Weir > wrote:

>About a year ago, I posted that I just flat ran out of time to post my
>Kitplanes columns for download at www.rstengineering.com/kitplanes.
>
>I had three volunteers that said that they would take the raw data that I
>generate for the column, refine it, and post it for download.
>
>Three volunteers rapidly ran to zero. When they saw the work involved, somehow
>the volunteer spirit went to zero.
>
>Again I ask...is anybody fool enough to take my Kitplanes column raw data and
>put it into downloadable format for the rest of the gang? I just do NOT have
>the time to do it.

Hi Jim,

I missed the original post, what is the raw data?

-nathan

G.R. Patterson III
April 3rd 04, 04:55 PM
Jim Weir wrote:
>
> Three volunteers rapidly ran to zero.

I volunteered twice to do this and don't recall backing out. You politely declined my
offer both times.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

Bob Fry
April 3rd 04, 06:51 PM
Jim Weir > writes:

> Again I ask...is anybody fool enough to take my Kitplanes column raw data and
> put it into downloadable format for the rest of the gang?

Jim, can you post a sample of the raw data here or on your website so
we can see what's involved?

Jim Weir
April 5th 04, 10:04 PM
Thanks to all of you who responded, and to George a humble apology. I was so
damned busy at the time (and still am) that I flat-ass forgot your volunteer
message of a year ago.

Many of you posted, "let me see what I'm getting myself into" before anything
else. Here's what I have done.

I write in Word and take pictures in digital .jpg format. If I do a drawing, I
have it in it's native Autosketch format, but always provide the .pdf of the
Autosketch file. Same for PC boards and schematics, which are done in
Circuitmaker and Traxmaker respectively, but I always make a .pdf of the
schematic .sch or the PC board layout .pcb files. The whole folder is a
hodge-podge of .doc, .jpg, .pdf, .ckt, .pcb and perhaps a .txt file or two.

My last posted article was June 2002. If you go to
www.rstengineering.com/rst/kptest you will see a zip file called KP0206.zip. If
you compare the files in that zip file with what is posted on the website
www.rstengineering.com/kitplanes for June '02, you can see how the zip files got
translated to a web page for that month.

I also posted all the JULY 2002 files in /kptest as well. That is, everything
except KP0206.zip is what is in my July 2002 folder. I suppose I could have
broken them out into two separate files, but I think it is relatively easy to
tell what is in the July issue.

I'm happy to flesh out anything that is not obvious. It is a little confusing
at first, but about the second or third article that is put into web page format
comes rather straightforward IF a bit tiring.

Note: the pictures are in RAW format. That is, I haven't culled the pictures
to take out the out-of-focus ones, the mislighted ones, the ones that are
completely useless, etc.. That's part of the deal...and perhaps the hardest
part...picking and choosing what stays and what is included on the webpage.

Thanks for all the replies.

Jim




->Again I ask...is anybody fool enough to take my Kitplanes column raw data and
->put it into downloadable format for the rest of the gang? I just do NOT have
->the time to do it.
->


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

EDR
April 5th 04, 11:07 PM
So when are you going to let us know who you select to assist you? :-)

Jim Weir
April 6th 04, 12:56 AM
Same way I did last time, hopefully with improved results {;-)

First person to post here that they looked at the files, they understand (more
or less) the task at hand, and are willing to take a crack at the first one has
it.

Jim


EDR >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->So when are you going to let us know who you select to assist you? :-)


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

G.R. Patterson III
April 6th 04, 03:41 AM
Jim Weir wrote:
>
> I also posted all the JULY 2002 files in /kptest as well.

I've got them down. Looks like August instead of July. I've looked at the June files
you provided and will take a stab at August tomorrow.

Thanks,
George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

G.R. Patterson III
April 6th 04, 04:51 AM
Jim Weir wrote:
>
> First person to post here that they looked at the files, they understand (more
> or less) the task at hand, and are willing to take a crack at the first one has
> it.

Jim. I sent you a zip file. See what you think.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

G.R. Patterson III
April 6th 04, 08:26 PM
Jim Weir wrote:
>
> First person to post here that they looked at the files, they understand (more
> or less) the task at hand, and are willing to take a crack at the first one has
> it.

Ok, Jim. I looked at the files and put together the pages for August from the files
you provided. I did have to change the "oopsie" page from a pdf download to an html
file, since I can't create pdfs. I will send you a zip file shortly.

What's next?

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

EDR
April 7th 04, 04:54 PM
In article >, G.R. Patterson III
> wrote:

> Jim Weir wrote:
> >
> > First person to post here that they looked at the files, they understand
> > (more
> > or less) the task at hand, and are willing to take a crack at the first one
> > has
> > it.
>
> Ok, Jim. I looked at the files and put together the pages for August from the
> files
> you provided. I did have to change the "oopsie" page from a pdf download to
> an html
> file, since I can't create pdfs. I will send you a zip file shortly.

George, forward whatever you want converted to PDF to me. I have a full
version of Acrobat.

G.R. Patterson III
April 8th 04, 04:16 AM
EDR wrote:
>
> George, forward whatever you want converted to PDF to me. I have a full
> version of Acrobat.

Thanks for the offer. I found a free program on the web that converts Word files to
pdf using the print option. Seems to work pretty well. Jim now has to copy or move
the zip files to a directory where I can download them. That takes time, and his
business comes first, of course. I suppose email could also be used, but I don't know
how many issues he could send before my mailbox fills up.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

Jim Weir
April 8th 04, 04:40 PM
George Patterson took the task on and has done an absolutely splendid job
translating the first article.

To have a looksee a George's handiwork, www.rstengineering.com/kitplanes and go
to the bottom article (July '02).

George, the gang owes you one, and so do I.

The August '02 raw data is posted in the usual place.

Jim

->
->Again I ask...is anybody fool enough to take my Kitplanes column raw data and
->put it into downloadable format for the rest of the gang?


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Dave Butler
April 8th 04, 06:32 PM
Jim Weir wrote:

> To have a looksee a George's handiwork, www.rstengineering.com/kitplanes and go
> to the bottom article (July '02).

Not Found
The requested URL /kitplanes/KP0207/KPtext.pdf was not found on this server.

Apache/1.3.20 Server at www.rst-engr.com Port 80

Dave

Jim Weir
April 8th 04, 06:34 PM
George...

In terms that any competent history major can understand, can you tell me how
you want me to fix this type mismatch?

Jim




->There's two mismatches between the KP0207.htm file and the other files: the
parts
->list file and full test PDF are Kpparts.pdf and Kptext.pdf on the webserver,
but are
->KPparts.pdf and KPText.pdf in the URLs in the KP0207.htm file (note the case
->difference in the "P"s). So the real URLs to the full text and parts list
are:
->
->http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/KP0207/Kpparts.pdf
->http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/KP0207/Kptext.pdf
->
->I imagine that the above to references will break here shortly when Jim fixes
the
->KP0207.htm file or renames the PDFs.
->
->Russell Kent

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

frank
April 8th 04, 06:42 PM
Works in Texas...

"Dave Butler" > wrote in message
...
> Jim Weir wrote:
>
> > To have a looksee a George's handiwork, www.rstengineering.com/kitplanes
and go
> > to the bottom article (July '02).
>
> Not Found
> The requested URL /kitplanes/KP0207/KPtext.pdf was not found on this
server.
>
> Apache/1.3.20 Server at www.rst-engr.com Port 80
>
> Dave
>

Russell Kent
April 8th 04, 06:59 PM
Dave Butler wrote:

> Jim Weir wrote:
>
> > To have a looksee a George's handiwork, www.rstengineering.com/kitplanes and go
> > to the bottom article (July '02).
>
> Not Found
> The requested URL /kitplanes/KP0207/KPtext.pdf was not found on this server.
>
> Apache/1.3.20 Server at www.rst-engr.com Port 80
>
> Dave

There's two mismatches between the KP0207.htm file and the other files: the parts
list file and full test PDF are Kpparts.pdf and Kptext.pdf on the webserver, but are
KPparts.pdf and KPText.pdf in the URLs in the KP0207.htm file (note the case
difference in the "P"s). So the real URLs to the full text and parts list are:

http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/KP0207/Kpparts.pdf
http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/KP0207/Kptext.pdf

I imagine that the above to references will break here shortly when Jim fixes the
KP0207.htm file or renames the PDFs.

Russell Kent

G.R. Patterson III
April 8th 04, 09:33 PM
Jim Weir wrote:
>
> In terms that any competent history major can understand, can you tell me how
> you want me to fix this type mismatch?

Well, the fastest way to fix it is to rename the two files to match the URLs.
Alternately, I can change the URLs in the html file and resend that. If you go the
first route, rename "Kpparts.pdf" to "KPparts.pdf" and rename "Kptext.pdf" to
"KPText.pdf". The difference in names also exists on my computer; the reason I didn't
catch it is that the link still works for me. It didn't show up in testing.

I'll double-check for that sort of thing with August.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

Jim Weir
April 8th 04, 10:38 PM
Renamed both the files with the KP prefix. Try to break it again, if you would
please.

Jim



->
->There's two mismatches between the KP0207.htm file and the other files: the
parts
->list file and full test PDF are Kpparts.pdf and Kptext.pdf



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

FUji
April 8th 04, 10:49 PM
"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
> Jim Weir wrote:
> >
> > In terms that any competent history major can understand, can you tell
me how
> > you want me to fix this type mismatch?
>
> Well, the fastest way to fix it is to rename the two files to match the
URLs.
> Alternately, I can change the URLs in the html file and resend that. If
you go the
> first route, rename "Kpparts.pdf" to "KPparts.pdf" and rename "Kptext.pdf"
to
> "KPText.pdf". The difference in names also exists on my computer; the
reason I didn't
> catch it is that the link still works for me. It didn't show up in
testing.
>
> I'll double-check for that sort of thing with August.
>
> George Patterson
> This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band
to
> play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come
home
> a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

Easiest in the future to use all lowercase for filenames and URLs. It
avoids problems with Win/DOS being case insensitive.

UltraJohn
April 9th 04, 02:32 AM
Some web authouring software (Windoze based) will use upper/lower case in
the program and html files then safe the respective files in all lowercase
which works ok if your ISP uses a Windows based web server, but with a lot
of servers running Linux OS and Apache web server it will not work if you
use FTP to upload your files but probably will work if you use their
program to "publish to the web".
I have 3 web sites I maintain and I have to manually edit the HTML files
each time I update to correct the case problem.
John



G.R. Patterson III wrote:

>
>
> Jim Weir wrote:
>>
>> In terms that any competent history major can understand, can you tell me
>> how you want me to fix this type mismatch?
>
> Well, the fastest way to fix it is to rename the two files to match the
> URLs. Alternately, I can change the URLs in the html file and resend that.
> If you go the first route, rename "Kpparts.pdf" to "KPparts.pdf" and
> rename "Kptext.pdf" to "KPText.pdf". The difference in names also exists
> on my computer; the reason I didn't catch it is that the link still works
> for me. It didn't show up in testing.
>
> I'll double-check for that sort of thing with August.
>
> George Patterson
> This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band
> to play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't
> come home a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".
>

David Lesher
April 9th 04, 05:33 AM
"G.R. Patterson III" > writes:



>Jim Weir wrote:
>>
>> In terms that any competent history major can understand, can you tell me how
>> you want me to fix this type mismatch?

>Well, the fastest way to fix it is to rename the two files to match the URLs.
>Alternately, I can change the URLs in the html file and resend that. If you go the
>first route, rename "Kpparts.pdf" to "KPparts.pdf" and rename "Kptext.pdf" to
>"KPText.pdf". The difference in names also exists on my computer; the reason I didn't
>catch it is that the link still works for me. It didn't show up in testing.

Please... keep all file names lower case. Also, please, please be really
pedantic on URL filesnames:

Only:
0-9, a-z, _ - .

No other characters. No !@#$:;%^&*()+|\/ {I swear I must have seen
each one in some URL sometime.}

Yea, you may get away with it for a while, until you start getting
into cross-platform situations. Then you have a mess.
--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

Dave Butler
April 9th 04, 02:04 PM
Jim Weir wrote:
> Renamed both the files with the KP prefix. Try to break it again, if you would
> please.

Seems fine now. Dave

G.R. Patterson III
April 10th 04, 03:23 AM
FUji wrote:
>
> Easiest in the future to use all lowercase for filenames and URLs. It
> avoids problems with Win/DOS being case insensitive.

I am now FTPing the files up to a directory on my web site for testing. Since most
web servers are UNIX boxes, I expect that any problems in this regard will pop up
immediately.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

Greg Copeland
April 14th 04, 08:23 PM
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 03:16:28 +0000, G.R. Patterson III wrote:

>
>
> EDR wrote:
>>
>> George, forward whatever you want converted to PDF to me. I have a full
>> version of Acrobat.
>
> Thanks for the offer. I found a free program on the web that converts Word files to
> pdf using the print option. Seems to work pretty well. Jim now has to copy or move
> the zip files to a directory where I can download them. That takes time, and his
> business comes first, of course. I suppose email could also be used, but I don't know
> how many issues he could send before my mailbox fills up.

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