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TripFarmer
May 13th 04, 02:35 PM
Trying to decide on these two. I've kind of ruled Lycoming out at this point
so I need some help on these two. If you know of an article or if you have
personal experience recently with either of these I'd appreciate your
thoughts. My plane is a PA28 235.

Feel free to e-mail me at


Thanks in advance.


Trip Farmer

Jay Masino
May 13th 04, 02:45 PM
TripFarmer > wrote:
> Trying to decide on these two. I've kind of ruled Lycoming out at this point
> so I need some help on these two. If you know of an article or if you have
> personal experience recently with either of these I'd appreciate your
> thoughts. My plane is a PA28 235.

Just curious... why'd you rule out Lycoming? My mechanic seems to favor
them.



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Ray Bengen
May 13th 04, 03:01 PM
Aviation consumer has a very good article this month about the 4 cylinder
makers.

Lycoming and TCM don't do very well, but ECI & Millenium do.

Ray

"TripFarmer" > wrote in message
...
> Trying to decide on these two. I've kind of ruled Lycoming out at this
point
> so I need some help on these two. If you know of an article or if you
have
> personal experience recently with either of these I'd appreciate your
> thoughts. My plane is a PA28 235.
>
> Feel free to e-mail me at
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Trip Farmer
>

rip
May 13th 04, 04:20 PM
FWIW, when the time comes I'm going with ECI and their "cermi-nil" process.

TripFarmer wrote:
> Trying to decide on these two. I've kind of ruled Lycoming out at this point
> so I need some help on these two. If you know of an article or if you have
> personal experience recently with either of these I'd appreciate your
> thoughts. My plane is a PA28 235.
>
> Feel free to e-mail me at
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Trip Farmer
>

TripFarmer
May 13th 04, 06:22 PM
Some like one and some like another. It's really a tough call
since you only do it every 10 years. I like what I'm hearing about ECI
and their experience and their warranty. They are actually a little
less than Lycoming, which surprised me. I want the best cylinder
no matter the cost. I hadn't even looked at cost until today and was
given $950 for ECI and $1,188 for Lycoming which surprised me but I
haven't even tried calling around.


Trip





In article >, says...
>
>TripFarmer > wrote:
>> Trying to decide on these two. I've kind of ruled Lycoming out at this point
>> so I need some help on these two. If you know of an article or if you have
>> personal experience recently with either of these I'd appreciate your
>> thoughts. My plane is a PA28 235.
>
>Just curious... why'd you rule out Lycoming? My mechanic seems to favor
>them.
>
>
>
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> __!__
>Jay and Teresa Masino ___(_)___
>http://www2.ari.net/jmasino ! ! !
>http://www.oceancityairport.com
>http://www.oc-adolfos.com

Dan Luke
May 13th 04, 07:40 PM
"Gene Kearns" wrote:
> I'll have to find and read the article. By the way, ECI makes
> Lycoming's cylinders.

The article dinged Lycoming mostly for poor customer service.
Continental got dinged for poor quality.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Bob Fry
May 14th 04, 01:46 AM
"Gene Kearns" > writes:

> On Thu, 13 May 2004 14:01:04 GMT, "Ray Bengen" > wrote:
>
> >Aviation consumer has a very good article this month about the 4 cylinder
> >makers.
> >
> >Lycoming and TCM don't do very well, but ECI & Millenium do.
> >
> >Ray
> >
> >
>
> Hmmm... I'll have to find and read the article. By the way, ECI makes
> Lycoming's cylinders.

http://www.aviationconsumer.com/pub/34_5/misc/5334-1.html

Thomas Borchert
May 14th 04, 12:00 PM
TripFarmer,

Read the current issue of Aviation Consumer

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

jls
May 14th 04, 01:27 PM
"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> "Gene Kearns" > writes:
>
> > On Thu, 13 May 2004 14:01:04 GMT, "Ray Bengen" > wrote:
> >
> > >Aviation consumer has a very good article this month about the 4
cylinder
> > >makers.
> > >
> > >Lycoming and TCM don't do very well, but ECI & Millenium do.
> > >
> > >Ray
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hmmm... I'll have to find and read the article. By the way, ECI makes
> > Lycoming's cylinders.
>
> http://www.aviationconsumer.com/pub/34_5/misc/5334-1.html

Thirteen bucks for me to read that Superior and ECI are better'n
Continental? Nope. No thanks.

TripFarmer
May 14th 04, 07:01 PM
I'm not a member. What does it say?


Trip

In article >, says...
>
>TripFarmer,
>
>Read the current issue of Aviation Consumer
>
>--
>Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
>

Thomas Borchert
May 15th 04, 01:56 PM
TripFarmer,

Well, I don't want to violate their copyright. You can buy a single
article from their website, I think, but frankly, the subscription cost
is made up in savings through their recommendations real quick for
anyone owning an aircraft, IMHO.

The essence of their testing has been mentioned in this thread already,
but the details are very interesting, too.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Dave Burton
May 16th 04, 03:01 PM
We had trouble making TBO in the 182 until switching to Millennium
cylinders the last time. We are at TBO now and the compression and
oil use are great. We plan to continue to run the engine until they
start to indicate a problem...

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