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Cal Cerise
June 25th 04, 03:05 AM
>>In my experience, when the wx is really crappy and most
light a/c are on the ground, the singles you will often
find flying are bonanzas and mooneys.

The bonanzas are often flown by very affluent people that
think that because they can pour enormous amounts of money
into flight directors and other gizmos, that they have
financially earned the right to be up there in the goo.

When you find mooneys up there in the muck, they're much
more likely to be owned by someone who is nowhere near
as affluent as the bonanza owner, but is likely 10 times
crazier than the bonanza owner.

See, the bonanza owner likely doesn't know of the danger,
or simply thinks that he can buy his way out with a
glideslope coupling autopilot to fly his airplane for him.

But the mooney owner, he knows it's dangerous, but he just
doesn't care. He's more than a little nuts. Remember, jim
campbell owns a mooney :>


>>Perhaps an analogy may be made to the modern practice of Obstetrics,
>which replaced midwifery as the modality of choice for delivering
>infants decades ago. Clearly modern obstetrics has been beneficial to
>cases where a Caesarian section or other intervention unquestionably
>prevented maternal or neonate deaths. It's equally clear that modern
>obstetrics has created many disasters by untimely, unnecessary, or
>convenience-motivated intervention which would have proceeded in
>uncomplicated fashion otherwise.
>
> Psychiatrists and Obstetricians are often exceedingly arrogant
>people. Since their workload has gone up and since fewer buy V-tailed
>Beech Bonanzas-which ameliorated their dysgenic and arrogant effects
>as the last thing going through their minds was often the accessory
>case of a GTSIO Continental-fewer get to observe their fury when
their
>universal beneficience is called in question.
>
> Scientology has simply, in the words of Jim Goad, "**** in the
>swimming pool". Now one cannot wholeheartedly endorse a Thomas Szasz,
>because scienos have used his position so effectively, even though
>they are not endorsed by Szasz, who has many valid observations.

Ed Note: A TSIO maybe,do Bonanzas have _geared_ Continentals? I don't
know. I know Mentors don't.

Mike Rapoport
June 25th 04, 04:19 AM
How can one tell what numerous individuals that one doesn't know are
thinking and why they are thinking what they are thinking?

Mike
MU-2

"Cal Cerise" > wrote in message
om...
> >>In my experience, when the wx is really crappy and most
> light a/c are on the ground, the singles you will often
> find flying are bonanzas and mooneys.
>
> The bonanzas are often flown by very affluent people that
> think that because they can pour enormous amounts of money
> into flight directors and other gizmos, that they have
> financially earned the right to be up there in the goo.
>
> When you find mooneys up there in the muck, they're much
> more likely to be owned by someone who is nowhere near
> as affluent as the bonanza owner, but is likely 10 times
> crazier than the bonanza owner.
>
> See, the bonanza owner likely doesn't know of the danger,
> or simply thinks that he can buy his way out with a
> glideslope coupling autopilot to fly his airplane for him.
>
> But the mooney owner, he knows it's dangerous, but he just
> doesn't care. He's more than a little nuts. Remember, jim
> campbell owns a mooney :>
>
>
> >>Perhaps an analogy may be made to the modern practice of Obstetrics,
> >which replaced midwifery as the modality of choice for delivering
> >infants decades ago. Clearly modern obstetrics has been beneficial to
> >cases where a Caesarian section or other intervention unquestionably
> >prevented maternal or neonate deaths. It's equally clear that modern
> >obstetrics has created many disasters by untimely, unnecessary, or
> >convenience-motivated intervention which would have proceeded in
> >uncomplicated fashion otherwise.
> >
> > Psychiatrists and Obstetricians are often exceedingly arrogant
> >people. Since their workload has gone up and since fewer buy V-tailed
> >Beech Bonanzas-which ameliorated their dysgenic and arrogant effects
> >as the last thing going through their minds was often the accessory
> >case of a GTSIO Continental-fewer get to observe their fury when
> their
> >universal beneficience is called in question.
> >
> > Scientology has simply, in the words of Jim Goad, "**** in the
> >swimming pool". Now one cannot wholeheartedly endorse a Thomas Szasz,
> >because scienos have used his position so effectively, even though
> >they are not endorsed by Szasz, who has many valid observations.
>
> Ed Note: A TSIO maybe,do Bonanzas have _geared_ Continentals? I don't
> know. I know Mentors don't.

June 25th 04, 05:03 AM
On 24-Jun-2004, (Cal Cerise) wrote:

> >>In my experience, when the wx is really crappy and most
> light a/c are on the ground, the singles you will often
> find flying are bonanzas and moneys.


Depends on what you mean by "really crappy" weather. When weather is IFR,
you won't find many simple airplanes out flying because most are not IFR
equipped, while most retractable singles are. Lots of competent IFR pilots
fly high performance airplanes, and it is quite reasonable for them to do so
in weather that would be suicidal for VFR-only pilots.

--
-Elliott Drucker

Peter R.
June 25th 04, 02:41 PM
Cal Cerise ) wrote:

> The bonanzas are often flown by very affluent people that
> think that because they can pour enormous amounts of money
> into flight directors and other gizmos, that they have
> financially earned the right to be up there in the goo.

Someday let me share with you my auto/owner stereotype. It's hoot and
would also make a good troll.

--
Peter













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Michael
June 25th 04, 05:14 PM
"Mike Rapoport" > wrote
> How can one tell what numerous individuals that one doesn't know are
> thinking and why they are thinking what they are thinking?

This is usenet. Many people can read minds - just ask them. They're,
like, telepathetic.

Michael

Orval Fairbairn
June 25th 04, 06:47 PM
In article >,
(Cal Cerise) wrote:

> >>In my experience, when the wx is really crappy and most
> light a/c are on the ground, the singles you will often
> find flying are bonanzas and mooneys.
>
> The bonanzas are often flown by very affluent people that
> think that because they can pour enormous amounts of money
> into flight directors and other gizmos, that they have
> financially earned the right to be up there in the goo.
>
> When you find mooneys up there in the muck, they're much
> more likely to be owned by someone who is nowhere near
> as affluent as the bonanza owner, but is likely 10 times
> crazier than the bonanza owner.
>
> See, the bonanza owner likely doesn't know of the danger,
> or simply thinks that he can buy his way out with a
> glideslope coupling autopilot to fly his airplane for him.
>
> But the mooney owner, he knows it's dangerous, but he just
> doesn't care. He's more than a little nuts. Remember, jim
> campbell owns a mooney :>
>
>
> >>Perhaps an analogy may be made to the modern practice of Obstetrics,
> >which replaced midwifery as the modality of choice for delivering
> >infants decades ago. Clearly modern obstetrics has been beneficial to
> >cases where a Caesarian section or other intervention unquestionably
> >prevented maternal or neonate deaths. It's equally clear that modern
> >obstetrics has created many disasters by untimely, unnecessary, or
> >convenience-motivated intervention which would have proceeded in
> >uncomplicated fashion otherwise.
> >
> > Psychiatrists and Obstetricians are often exceedingly arrogant
> >people. Since their workload has gone up and since fewer buy V-tailed
> >Beech Bonanzas-which ameliorated their dysgenic and arrogant effects
> >as the last thing going through their minds was often the accessory
> >case of a GTSIO Continental-fewer get to observe their fury when
> their
> >universal beneficience is called in question.
> >
> > Scientology has simply, in the words of Jim Goad, "**** in the
> >swimming pool". Now one cannot wholeheartedly endorse a Thomas Szasz,
> >because scienos have used his position so effectively, even though
> >they are not endorsed by Szasz, who has many valid observations.
>
> Ed Note: A TSIO maybe,do Bonanzas have _geared_ Continentals? I don't
> know. I know Mentors don't.

No -- all Bonanzas (ex: the T-Bone) have direct-drive engines.

Andrew Gideon
June 26th 04, 12:06 AM
Michael wrote:

> This is usenet. Many people can read minds - just ask them. They're,
> like, telepathetic.

We knew you were thinking that.

- Andrew

Jay Honeck
June 26th 04, 04:41 AM
> > This is usenet. Many people can read minds - just ask them. They're,
> > like, telepathetic.
>
> We knew you were thinking that.

I know he knew that you knew.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
June 26th 04, 04:42 AM
> Someday let me share with you my auto/owner stereotype. It's hoot and
> would also make a good troll.

What the hell -- it's a slow day.

How come guys driving Corvettes always drive so damned slow?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

C J Campbell
June 26th 04, 06:20 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:wg6Dc.95703$2i5.52442@attbi_s52...
> > Someday let me share with you my auto/owner stereotype. It's hoot and
> > would also make a good troll.
>
> What the hell -- it's a slow day.
>
> How come guys driving Corvettes always drive so damned slow?

If the speed limit is 60 mph the cops will pull over a Corvette going 61,
but they will ignore the SUV going 120. A bit of an exaggeration, perhaps,
but it is essentially true. Apparently the police think that automobiles
that are designed for high speeds are more dangerous than automobiles that
are not, but which are driven at high speeds. It seems the wrong way. Ask
any Lambo driver. He'll get pulled over every quarter mile, even though he
is the slowest vehicle on the road.

I think that the owner of an speeding SUV should be fined double whatever
would be levied against the driver of a car that was actually designed for
such high speeds. I also think that the police should be far less tolerant
of speeding in those Detroit coffins than they should be for fine
automobiles.

Tom Sixkiller
June 26th 04, 03:39 PM
"C J Campbell" > wrote in message
...
> I think that the owner of an speeding SUV should be fined double whatever
> would be levied against the driver of a car that was actually designed for
> such high speeds. I also think that the police should be far less tolerant
> of speeding in those Detroit coffins than they should be for fine
> automobiles.

You assume the purpose of speeding tickets is _safety_.

I think anyone driving a CJ-5 or CJ-7 ought to be fined on general
principles. :~)

Bob Fry
June 26th 04, 04:48 PM
"Jay Honeck" > writes:

> > Someday let me share with you my auto/owner stereotype. It's hoot and
> > would also make a good troll.
>
> What the hell -- it's a slow day.
>
> How come guys driving Corvettes always drive so damned slow?

They're not guys, they're gals.

And I don't know why.

C J Campbell
June 26th 04, 06:49 PM
"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> "Jay Honeck" > writes:
>
> > > Someday let me share with you my auto/owner stereotype. It's hoot and
> > > would also make a good troll.
> >
> > What the hell -- it's a slow day.
> >
> > How come guys driving Corvettes always drive so damned slow?
>
> They're not guys, they're gals.
>
> And I don't know why.

They have two X chromosomes. Didn't you learn anything in health class?

PInc972390
June 27th 04, 01:45 AM
>> The bonanzas are often flown by very affluent people that
>> think that because they can pour enormous amounts of money
>> into flight directors and other

These are the smartest people on earth because they have a piece of paper that
says so.

Jay Honeck
June 27th 04, 03:04 AM
> > How come guys driving Corvettes always drive so damned slow?
>
> If the speed limit is 60 mph the cops will pull over a Corvette going 61,
> but they will ignore the SUV going 120. A bit of an exaggeration, perhaps,
> but it is essentially true.

For Mary's birthday, our anniversary, and just for the helluva it, we
recently picked up a 2000 Mustang. It's a red/orange convertible, with
racing wheels/tires, 5-speed stick, performance suspension -- the whole nine
yards. I got a great deal, and simply couldn't pass it up. (And, most
importantly, Mary fell in love with the car at first sight.)

One thing you should know about Mary -- she drives to get there. Actually,
she drives like she stole it. Bottom line: She has a severe lead foot.
She's either accelerating, or braking.

There is no "cruise speed" in her book.

Well, her new car looks like it's going 100 mph when it's parked. At 30, it
looks like it's going 50. And it'll do 50 in the blink of an eye, in second
gear.

The local cops follow it EVERYWHERE.

Thus, ironically, she now takes the old Subaru Outback when she's in a
hurry! It's slower, but she can speed around town in "stealth mode" and not
worry so much about the cops.

Still, I often wonder about Corvette owners. Not only do they drive slowly,
they seem to accelerate slowly. I don't speed (much), but the fun of
driving a performance car is that rush from zero to whatever the speed limit
is!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

PInc972390
June 27th 04, 03:01 PM
>For Mary's birthday, our anniversary, and just for the helluva it, we
>recently picked up a 2000 Mustang. It's a red/orange convertible, with
>racing wheels/tires, 5-speed stick, performance suspension -- the whole nine
>yards. I got a great deal, and simply couldn't pass it up. (And, most
>importantly, Mary fell in love with the car at first

don't these brainstorms feel good. Now I think I know why We bought jet skis
for Christmas at 55 years old.

Jay Honeck
June 27th 04, 09:56 PM
> don't these brainstorms feel good. Now I think I know why We bought jet
skis
> for Christmas at 55 years old.

We went boating last weekend, for the first time in several years, and I
couldn't help but notice the proliferation of jet skis. I've never
road/drove/piloted one, but they sure look like fun!

Are they as much work to ride as they look?

The Mustang is a real gas to drive. A previous owner put all sorts of speed
mods on it (hey -- just like our Pathfinder!), and the thing is just sweet
on a nice curving, windy road. The combination of frame stiffening (it's a
convertible) big, wide racing tires (read: expensive), and traction control
sure make for a fun romp in the country!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Paul Sengupta
June 28th 04, 10:06 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:0XpDc.122239$Sw.23033@attbi_s51...
> Still, I often wonder about Corvette owners. Not only do they drive
slowly,
> they seem to accelerate slowly. I don't speed (much), but the fun of
> driving a performance car is that rush from zero to whatever the speed
limit
> is!

Big engine. Lots of petrol. High petrol prices.

Paul
(4 litre car, very high petrol prices!) (also the reason I don't do too
many take-offs in my plane - like touch and goes...big engine, high
avgas prices, lots of fuel on take-off and climb!)

Jay Honeck
June 29th 04, 02:01 PM
> Big engine. Lots of petrol. High petrol prices.
>
> Paul
> (4 litre car, very high petrol prices!) (also the reason I don't do too
> many take-offs in my plane - like touch and goes...big engine, high
> avgas prices, lots of fuel on take-off and climb!)

Yeah, the Mustang only has the 2.8 liter six, so mileage isn't too bad,
actually. Probably not much worse than my all-wheel-drive Subaru, which
sucks gas horribly for a 4-cylinder engine.

Some day I'll drop that fire-breathing 5.0 liter engine in this little car,
and then look out!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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