Some views of my AvMap EKP-IV

[Jay Masino]

Anybody who's interested in how the new AvMap EKP-IV looks when mounted on
a Cherokee yoke, feel free to look at:
http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel1.JPG
http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel2.JPG
http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel3.JPG

I can't say that I'm exactly over joyed with it's software design, but
it's probably just a matter of getting use to it (after many years behind
a Garmin). One small problem that I notice is that, either the high
resolution screen or the embedded processor, is causing some high pitched
noise on my com radios. Not enough to break the squelch, but if a distant
aircraft with a weak signal breaks my squelch, the AvMap noise become
apparent. Not sure if I can put up with that or not. I may try to loop
the com radio's coax through a toroid a few times, or fabricating a
grounded aluminum "cradle" between the unit and the yolke mount, in an
attempt to shield my radios. I'm not really sure if that'll help or not.

I'm also finding that a large high resolution display leave one open to
information overload. I haven't quite tweaked all the display options,
for different zoom levels, to my liking yet. The AvMap also insists on
drawing a course line to your GoTo waypoint, and you can't seem to turn
that function off. It's a great feature if you're going on a trip, but if
you're just up flying around boring holes in the sky, you end up with a
black line drawn across your screen that has no useful purpose.

---Jay


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[john smith]

Flown it at night yet?
How bright is it at minimum setting?

[Hankal]

>Flown it at night yet?
>How bright is it at minimum setting?
>
>

I find it very pleasing to the eyes.
However my unit is mounted on a rail mount.
Hank 172 driver

[Jay Masino]

john smith > wrote:
> Flown it at night yet?
> How bright is it at minimum setting?

No, I haven't, but you can lower the brightness to near darkness, so I'm
sure you can adjust it to your liking.


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[David Herman]

I too picked one up about two weeks ago, but haven't had a chance to do
anything but short local flights with it yet. I'm gonna try for a lengthy
cross-country tomorrow (weather permitting) and will post my impressions
tomorrow night after wringing it out a bit.



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"Jay Masino" > wrote in message
...
> Anybody who's interested in how the new AvMap EKP-IV looks when mounted on
> a Cherokee yoke, feel free to look at:
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel1.JPG
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel2.JPG
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel3.JPG
>
> I can't say that I'm exactly over joyed with it's software design, but
> it's probably just a matter of getting use to it (after many years behind
> a Garmin). One small problem that I notice is that, either the high
> resolution screen or the embedded processor, is causing some high pitched
> noise on my com radios. Not enough to break the squelch, but if a distant
> aircraft with a weak signal breaks my squelch, the AvMap noise become
> apparent. Not sure if I can put up with that or not. I may try to loop
> the com radio's coax through a toroid a few times, or fabricating a
> grounded aluminum "cradle" between the unit and the yolke mount, in an
> attempt to shield my radios. I'm not really sure if that'll help or not.
>
> I'm also finding that a large high resolution display leave one open to
> information overload. I haven't quite tweaked all the display options,
> for different zoom levels, to my liking yet. The AvMap also insists on
> drawing a course line to your GoTo waypoint, and you can't seem to turn
> that function off. It's a great feature if you're going on a trip, but if
> you're just up flying around boring holes in the sky, you end up with a
> black line drawn across your screen that has no useful purpose.
>
> ---Jay
>
>
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[Jeremy Lew]

"Jay Masino" > wrote in message
...
> Anybody who's interested in how the new AvMap EKP-IV looks when mounted on
> a Cherokee yoke, feel free to look at:
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel1.JPG
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel2.JPG
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel3.JPG

Do you use the timer on the panel behind it? It looks to be completely
obscured by the AvMap. That would be the AI in my plane.

[Thomas Borchert]

Jay,

thanks for the report.

Really like your temp indicator, which should be able to measure both
OAT and inside temperature ;-)

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Jay Masino]

Jeremy Lew > wrote:
> Do you use the timer on the panel behind it? It looks to be completely
> obscured by the AvMap. That would be the AI in my plane.

Rarely, but the times I have (when it was "blocked" by my GPSMAP 195) it
was actually rather simple to look around the GPS. When you're in flight,
the yoke, and the GPS, are actually a little closer to you.

--- Jay



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[Jay Honeck]

> Anybody who's interested in how the new AvMap EKP-IV looks when mounted on
> a Cherokee yoke, feel free to look at:

Sweet. I like the slightly smaller footprint.

> One small problem that I notice is that, either the high
> resolution screen or the embedded processor, is causing some high pitched
> noise on my com radios.

I've never noticed anything like that. We've got the antenna wire running
down the yoke shaft, under the panel, to the left, and then up to the top of
the panel. I've zip-tied everything neatly underneath, so there are almost
no wires visible, and no interference has been noted.

Does the pitch change as you adjust the brightness?

> I'm also finding that a large high resolution display leave one open to
> information overload. I haven't quite tweaked all the display options,
> for different zoom levels, to my liking yet. The AvMap also insists on

Yeah, there's a LOT of information presented. Not only will you get used
to it, you will soon be unwilling to fly without it.
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[Jay Masino]

Jay Honeck > wrote:
>> One small problem that I notice is that, either the high
>> resolution screen or the embedded processor, is causing some high pitched
>> noise on my com radios.
> I've never noticed anything like that. We've got the antenna wire running
> down the yoke shaft, under the panel, to the left, and then up to the top of
> the panel. I've zip-tied everything neatly underneath, so there are almost
> no wires visible, and no interference has been noted.

Yea. I tiewrapped everything out of sight, too. I don't think it's the
antenna that's the problem. Plus, the increased resolution and processor
speed of this new unit has the potential of generating additional high
frequency harmonics (as compared to the EKP-IIIc).

> Does the pitch change as you adjust the brightness?

I believe the brightness effects it a little. It's probably not a big
deal. Like I said, it doesn't break the squelch and only seems to effect
already weak incomming signals.


> Yeah, there's a LOT of information presented. Not only will you get used
> to it, you will soon be unwilling to fly without it.

I doubt that. I was gonna sell my GPSMAP 195 right away, but I'm going
to hold onto it for a while, just in case I want to go back to it.



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[Jay Smith]

Hankal wrote:
>>Flown it at night yet?
>>How bright is it at minimum setting?

> I find it very pleasing to the eyes.
> However my unit is mounted on a rail mount.

Is that the RAM rail mount?

[Hankal]

> I find it very pleasing to the eyes.
>> However my unit is mounted on a rail mount.
>
>Is that the RAM rail mount?

I did not state "RAM" mount
It is a rail mount, fits on the seat rails and can be adjusted to fit at pilots
disgression

[Jay Smith]

Hankal wrote:
>>I find it very pleasing to the eyes.

>>>However my unit is mounted on a rail mount.

>>Is that the RAM rail mount?

> I did not state "RAM" mount
> It is a rail mount, fits on the seat rails and can be adjusted to fit at pilots
> disgression


Is there another "brand" that manufactures one?
RAM is the only one I am familiar with.

[Hankal]

>Is there another "brand" that manufactures one?
>RAM is the only one I am familiar with.

I bought mine directly from AvMap.
I do not know if they buy them from RAM mount.

[Jay Masino]

Hankal > wrote:
> I bought mine directly from AvMap.
> I do not know if they buy them from RAM mount.

AvMap's mounts are made by RAM.



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[JK]

Nice looking Cherokee!! What is the instrument to the left of the
tachometer?

"Jay Masino" > wrote in message
...
> Anybody who's interested in how the new AvMap EKP-IV looks when mounted on
> a Cherokee yoke, feel free to look at:
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel1.JPG
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel2.JPG
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel3.JPG
>
> I can't say that I'm exactly over joyed with it's software design, but
> it's probably just a matter of getting use to it (after many years behind
> a Garmin). One small problem that I notice is that, either the high
> resolution screen or the embedded processor, is causing some high pitched
> noise on my com radios. Not enough to break the squelch, but if a distant
> aircraft with a weak signal breaks my squelch, the AvMap noise become
> apparent. Not sure if I can put up with that or not. I may try to loop
> the com radio's coax through a toroid a few times, or fabricating a
> grounded aluminum "cradle" between the unit and the yolke mount, in an
> attempt to shield my radios. I'm not really sure if that'll help or not.
>
> I'm also finding that a large high resolution display leave one open to
> information overload. I haven't quite tweaked all the display options,
> for different zoom levels, to my liking yet. The AvMap also insists on
> drawing a course line to your GoTo waypoint, and you can't seem to turn
> that function off. It's a great feature if you're going on a trip, but if
> you're just up flying around boring holes in the sky, you end up with a
> black line drawn across your screen that has no useful purpose.
>
> ---Jay
>
>
> --
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> Jay and Teresa Masino ___(_)___
> http://www2.ari.net/jmasino ! ! !
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[Brad Z]

looks like a CDI for the GPS

"JK" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Nice looking Cherokee!! What is the instrument to the left of the
> tachometer?
>
> "Jay Masino" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Anybody who's interested in how the new AvMap EKP-IV looks when mounted
on
> > a Cherokee yoke, feel free to look at:
> > http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel1.JPG
> > http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel2.JPG
> > http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/private/panel3.JPG
> >
> > I can't say that I'm exactly over joyed with it's software design, but
> > it's probably just a matter of getting use to it (after many years
behind
> > a Garmin). One small problem that I notice is that, either the high
> > resolution screen or the embedded processor, is causing some high
pitched
> > noise on my com radios. Not enough to break the squelch, but if a
distant
> > aircraft with a weak signal breaks my squelch, the AvMap noise become
> > apparent. Not sure if I can put up with that or not. I may try to loop
> > the com radio's coax through a toroid a few times, or fabricating a
> > grounded aluminum "cradle" between the unit and the yolke mount, in an
> > attempt to shield my radios. I'm not really sure if that'll help or
not.
> >
> > I'm also finding that a large high resolution display leave one open to
> > information overload. I haven't quite tweaked all the display options,
> > for different zoom levels, to my liking yet. The AvMap also insists on
> > drawing a course line to your GoTo waypoint, and you can't seem to turn
> > that function off. It's a great feature if you're going on a trip, but
if
> > you're just up flying around boring holes in the sky, you end up with a
> > black line drawn across your screen that has no useful purpose.
> >
> > ---Jay
> >
> >
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>
>

[Jay Masino]

JK > wrote:
> Nice looking Cherokee!! What is the instrument to the left of the
> tachometer?

That's the indicator for the IFR GPS (UPS AT/Garmin AT GX-60).


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[Jay Masino]

I haven't been able to get use to using the AvMap's display and have
resided myself to sell it. After a while, I kinda' longed for my GPSMAP
195's little B/W display. I'd return it, but I've put a couple of
scratches on the backside (from experimenting with different yoke mount
ideas) and I've added a few extra pieces of velcro. It won't be until
next weekend that I can climb behind the panel and clip all the tiewraps
that I used to hold in the power and antenna lines. I got it for $1400,
so I'll probably let it go for $1300 plus shipping, and I'll throw in the
6 NiMH batteries that I bought (and don't come with the unit).




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[Al Marzo]

On 05 Sep 2004 23:10:22 GMT, (Jay Masino)
wrote:

>
>I haven't been able to get use to using the AvMap's display and have
>resided myself to sell it. After a while, I kinda' longed for my GPSMAP
>195's little B/W display. I'd return it, but I've put a couple of
>scratches on the backside (from experimenting with different yoke mount
>ideas) and I've added a few extra pieces of velcro. It won't be until
>next weekend that I can climb behind the panel and clip all the tiewraps
>that I used to hold in the power and antenna lines. I got it for $1400,
>so I'll probably let it go for $1300 plus shipping, and I'll throw in the
>6 NiMH batteries that I bought (and don't come with the unit).

Good thing I decided to wait! That darn 296 is looking better,
unfortunately!.

[Jay Masino]

Al Marzo > wrote:
> Good thing I decided to wait! That darn 296 is looking better,
> unfortunately!.

Don't get me wrong. I'm sure, for the right person, the AvMap is a great
unit. I just don't get as excited as some people over a glitzy display. I
probably won't be getting a 296 either. I spend all day at work looking
at cool displays at NASA. I don't need to stair at one while I'm flying.

--- Jay

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