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The Weiss Family
September 4th 04, 02:53 AM
Or is it even worth looking at something so high time?
I'm interested in your opinions...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2488804722&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Darrel Toepfer
September 4th 04, 03:52 AM
The Weiss Family wrote:

> Or is it even worth looking at something so high time?
> I'm interested in your opinions...
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2488804722&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

*From an old Barnstormers.com ad*

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4 PIPER CHEROKEE 6 300S • AVAILABLE FOR SALE • 4 Six 300s (1967, 1968,
1972, 1975), King, GPS, MFDs, 3-blades, 9000 to 18000 TT, 100 to 1500
SMOH, make offer, one or all! Cell: 918-277-4002 • VISIT MY WEBSITE:
WWW.ACTAIRCRAFT.COM • Contact John Rourke - ACT, LLC located Hawkins,
TX USA • Telephone: 903-769-4950 • Fax: 903-769-4951 • Posted July 26, 2004
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No mention of them being in Alaska, back then. Looks like the website is
still hosed (misconfigured) for some links:
http://www.actaircraft.com/id43.html

No seats, no closeups:
http://www.actaircraft.com/id44.html
http://www.actaircraft.com/id45.html
http://www.actaircraft.com/id46.html

When people don't show closeups and hires photos, there is usually a
reason for it. Ugly ain't just on the surface, it geaux's all the way to
the bone... ;-P

September 4th 04, 06:08 AM
Well, if I read the ads right they want about $220K for all four, which
averages to $55K each. Looking at a representative collection of asking
prices for Sixes of similar vintages (but far fewer airframe hours) prices
seem to run from around $80K to $120K. This suggests that the asking price
for these 4 overworked birds is at least rational, especially given that
they appear to be moderately well equipped (except no APs).

On airframes that old (in flight hours) just about everything that is likely
to wear out (e.g. hinges, control cables, landing gear components) probably
has worn out -- in some cases several times. If maintained to rigorous Part
135 standards, there is no reason why a 20,000-hr airplane should not be
airworthy. But I'd sure want an experienced mechanic look for corrosion and
for fatigue cracks in structural members.

Forget about cosmetics. These planes were obviously used to haul cargo (or
maybe skydivers). Paint and interior are probably solid "1"s on the 1 to 10
scale.

Also, remember that a 20,000 hr Part 135 airplane has gone through two
hundred 100 hr inspections. Everything that has to be removed and replaced
for such inspections is probably worn thin by now.

Just my idle ramblings.

-Elliott Drucker


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-Elliott Drucker

Dude
September 4th 04, 05:17 PM
You aren't rambling idle at all.

The key here is that they want 10% in three days. Unless you are able to do
a pre buy before bidding. Forget it.




> wrote in message
news:C5c_c.1853$5Y6.1628@trnddc07...
> Well, if I read the ads right they want about $220K for all four, which
> averages to $55K each. Looking at a representative collection of asking
> prices for Sixes of similar vintages (but far fewer airframe hours) prices
> seem to run from around $80K to $120K. This suggests that the asking
price
> for these 4 overworked birds is at least rational, especially given that
> they appear to be moderately well equipped (except no APs).
>
> On airframes that old (in flight hours) just about everything that is
likely
> to wear out (e.g. hinges, control cables, landing gear components)
probably
> has worn out -- in some cases several times. If maintained to rigorous
Part
> 135 standards, there is no reason why a 20,000-hr airplane should not be
> airworthy. But I'd sure want an experienced mechanic look for corrosion
and
> for fatigue cracks in structural members.
>
> Forget about cosmetics. These planes were obviously used to haul cargo
(or
> maybe skydivers). Paint and interior are probably solid "1"s on the 1 to
10
> scale.
>
> Also, remember that a 20,000 hr Part 135 airplane has gone through two
> hundred 100 hr inspections. Everything that has to be removed and
replaced
> for such inspections is probably worn thin by now.
>
> Just my idle ramblings.
>
> -Elliott Drucker
>
>
> --
> -Elliott Drucker

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