Re: What are Boeing's plans?

[Pooh Bear]

Kevin Brooks wrote:

> "m pautz" > wrote in message
> news:EdD2d.65358$D%.13394@attbi_s51...
> >
> >
> > Now, Airbus is comming out with the 380, a full length double decker.
> > Boeing decided not to extend its 747 top the full length. Let's hope that
> > Boeing made the right decision.
>
> From what I have read, Boeing is banking on the 7E7 being a more valuable
> commodity than "supersized" air transports, and if you look at the extreme
> number of current hub-feeder and smaller hub-to-hub aircraft out there that
> are going to need replacement in the not-too-distant future, they may well
> have made the better choice. Lots of DC-9's, older 737's, A319's, A320's,
> etc., are going to be coming due for replacement in the next few years, and
> with fuel economy being a growing concern in terms of meeting the bottom
> line requirements, the 7E7 family will be well positioned to take a goodly
> share of that market.

The 7E7 is a rather larger capacity a/c than those you mention. Hardly a
likely
replacement on a like for like basis.

> Airbus may find itself in the unenviable position of
> having a lock on the market for supers, but being a step behind in terms of
> the larger share of the market that wants to recapitalize its smaller
> airframe fleets.

Airbus doesn't seem to be short of actual orders.

http://www.airbus.com/media/orders_n_deliveries.asp A320 family is
doing esp
well.

Last I heard, Boeing had no actual orders for 7E7.


Graham

[Kevin Brooks]

"Pooh Bear" > wrote in message
...
> Kevin Brooks wrote:
>
>> "m pautz" > wrote in message
>> news:EdD2d.65358$D%.13394@attbi_s51...
>> >
>> >
>> > Now, Airbus is comming out with the 380, a full length double decker.
>> > Boeing decided not to extend its 747 top the full length. Let's hope
>> > that
>> > Boeing made the right decision.
>>
>> From what I have read, Boeing is banking on the 7E7 being a more valuable
>> commodity than "supersized" air transports, and if you look at the
>> extreme
>> number of current hub-feeder and smaller hub-to-hub aircraft out there
>> that
>> are going to need replacement in the not-too-distant future, they may
>> well
>> have made the better choice. Lots of DC-9's, older 737's, A319's, A320's,
>> etc., are going to be coming due for replacement in the next few years,
>> and
>> with fuel economy being a growing concern in terms of meeting the bottom
>> line requirements, the 7E7 family will be well positioned to take a
>> goodly
>> share of that market.
>
> The 7E7 is a rather larger capacity a/c than those you mention. Hardly a
> likely
> replacement on a like for like basis.

You are generally right (bang on head). I went back and reread the article
in question and the market they are looking at for replacement airframes is
the L-1011, DC-10, 767, and A300/310/330. But the 7E7-3 model would
presumably be of interest for replacement of some smaller capacity aircraft
like the 737, with roughly the same range as the smaller aircraft while
offering about one hundred more seats.

>
>> Airbus may find itself in the unenviable position of
>> having a lock on the market for supers, but being a step behind in terms
>> of
>> the larger share of the market that wants to recapitalize its smaller
>> airframe fleets.
>
> Airbus doesn't seem to be short of actual orders.

Neither is Boeing (see below)...

>
> http://www.airbus.com/media/orders_n_deliveries.asp A320 family is
> doing esp
> well.
>
> Last I heard, Boeing had no actual orders for 7E7.

You heard wrong. All Nipon is the launch customer (with a fifty aircraft
order, Boeing's largest single launch order ever), Air New Zealand followed
(two aircraft). Two European airlines have also placed orders (ten total).
Sixty-two firm orders total. Over just around a one year period, before
metal was cut--that ain't bad.

Brooks

>
>
> Graham