Cyclone fuel saver??

[Gary]

Just got home from work and at this time in the morning the only thing on TV
is infomercials :(

So here I am watching these infomercials and on comes the one for the
Cyclone Fuel Saver. Now they claim that it improves fuel mileage and power
output from the engine. So I was just wondering if anyone has tried this
little device in their piston aircraft?
The theory makes sense, spinning air in the intake tract to help mix the
air/fuel better before entering the cylinder. Now the ad says that this
works in any gasoline burning engine (and they list almost every gas burning
engine ever invented) except the ad didn't mention aircraft. I find this
interesting cause if it works really that good in cars, trucks, motorcycles
ect. ect wouldn't it work just as well in a airplane?

I assume that this device hasn't been approved for use in piston powerd
aircraft yet or, maybe it just isn't as good as the makers claim!

[Bushy]

Can I interest you in a bridge?

Have a search of various car and 4wd newsgroups. The other brand Hyclone is
just as good.

Peter

[kontiki]

For one thing it would have to be FAA certified.... thus raising the
cost to a point where it would take decades of use to result in any
cost benefit.

Gary wrote:
> Just got home from work and at this time in the morning the only thing on TV
> is infomercials :(
>
> So here I am watching these infomercials and on comes the one for the
> Cyclone Fuel Saver. Now they claim that it improves fuel mileage and power
> output from the engine. So I was just wondering if anyone has tried this
> little device in their piston aircraft?
> The theory makes sense, spinning air in the intake tract to help mix the
> air/fuel better before entering the cylinder. Now the ad says that this
> works in any gasoline burning engine (and they list almost every gas burning
> engine ever invented) except the ad didn't mention aircraft. I find this
> interesting cause if it works really that good in cars, trucks, motorcycles
> ect. ect wouldn't it work just as well in a airplane?
>
> I assume that this device hasn't been approved for use in piston powerd
> aircraft yet or, maybe it just isn't as good as the makers claim!
>
>

[Michelle P]

Gary,
For a carbureted engine with the air cleaner right on top of the
carburetor it may help mixing the fuel. However if you have a
multi-point fuel injected engine (car or plane) or one where the Filter
is a foot or so up stream of the carburetor it will have little effect
if any or the mixing. Most engines are designed to swirl the air/ fuel
mixture as it enters the cylinder.
Michelle

Gary wrote:

>Just got home from work and at this time in the morning the only thing on TV
>is infomercials :(
>
>So here I am watching these infomercials and on comes the one for the
>Cyclone Fuel Saver. Now they claim that it improves fuel mileage and power
>output from the engine. So I was just wondering if anyone has tried this
>little device in their piston aircraft?
>The theory makes sense, spinning air in the intake tract to help mix the
>air/fuel better before entering the cylinder. Now the ad says that this
>works in any gasoline burning engine (and they list almost every gas burning
>engine ever invented) except the ad didn't mention aircraft. I find this
>interesting cause if it works really that good in cars, trucks, motorcycles
>ect. ect wouldn't it work just as well in a airplane?
>
>I assume that this device hasn't been approved for use in piston powerd
>aircraft yet or, maybe it just isn't as good as the makers claim!
>
>
>
>

--

Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P

"Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike)

Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic

Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity

[Dave S]

So.. by adding a restriction to flow (in the form of some cute gizmo)
you are intending to INCREASE horsepower?

I recall hearing in another discussion group I participate in, that one
of these devices came apart from the suction forces in the engine.. not
what you want happening..

Dave

Gary wrote:
> Just got home from work and at this time in the morning the only thing on TV
> is infomercials :(
>
> So here I am watching these infomercials and on comes the one for the
> Cyclone Fuel Saver. Now they claim that it improves fuel mileage and power
> output from the engine. So I was just wondering if anyone has tried this
> little device in their piston aircraft?
> The theory makes sense, spinning air in the intake tract to help mix the
> air/fuel better before entering the cylinder. Now the ad says that this
> works in any gasoline burning engine (and they list almost every gas burning
> engine ever invented) except the ad didn't mention aircraft. I find this
> interesting cause if it works really that good in cars, trucks, motorcycles
> ect. ect wouldn't it work just as well in a airplane?
>
> I assume that this device hasn't been approved for use in piston powerd
> aircraft yet or, maybe it just isn't as good as the makers claim!
>
>

[[email protected]]

Race car people dimple the inards of the intake manifold to make the air
a little bit more turbulent to help mix the gasses.
During cruise, i keep the throttle off the stops and my egt's smooth out.
I suspect for the same reason.

Dave

Dave S wrote:
> So.. by adding a restriction to flow (in the form of some cute gizmo)
> you are intending to INCREASE horsepower?
>
> I recall hearing in another discussion group I participate in, that one
> of these devices came apart from the suction forces in the engine.. not
> what you want happening..
>
> Dave
>
> Gary wrote:
>
>> Just got home from work and at this time in the morning the only thing
>> on TV
>> is infomercials :(
>>
>> So here I am watching these infomercials and on comes the one for the
>> Cyclone Fuel Saver. Now they claim that it improves fuel mileage and
>> power
>> output from the engine. So I was just wondering if anyone has tried this
>> little device in their piston aircraft?
>> The theory makes sense, spinning air in the intake tract to help mix the
>> air/fuel better before entering the cylinder. Now the ad says that this
>> works in any gasoline burning engine (and they list almost every gas
>> burning
>> engine ever invented) except the ad didn't mention aircraft. I find this
>> interesting cause if it works really that good in cars, trucks,
>> motorcycles
>> ect. ect wouldn't it work just as well in a airplane?
>>
>> I assume that this device hasn't been approved for use in piston powerd
>> aircraft yet or, maybe it just isn't as good as the makers claim!
>>
>>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> During cruise, i keep the throttle off the stops and my egt's smooth out.
> I suspect for the same reason.

Interesting.

I've noticed the same thing, but I didn't stop to think that it could be due
to inducing more turbulent air, thereby smoothing the mixture between
cylinders.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Michelle P]

Dave,
I suspect you have a carburated engine? I suspect it would have little
effect in a multi-point fuel injected engine.
Michelle

wrote:

> Race car people dimple the inards of the intake manifold to make the
> air a little bit more turbulent to help mix the gasses.
> During cruise, i keep the throttle off the stops and my egt's smooth out.
> I suspect for the same reason.
>
> Dave
>
> Dave S wrote:
>
>> So.. by adding a restriction to flow (in the form of some cute gizmo)
>> you are intending to INCREASE horsepower?
>>
>> I recall hearing in another discussion group I participate in, that
>> one of these devices came apart from the suction forces in the
>> engine.. not what you want happening..
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Just got home from work and at this time in the morning the only
>>> thing on TV
>>> is infomercials :(
>>>
>>> So here I am watching these infomercials and on comes the one for the
>>> Cyclone Fuel Saver. Now they claim that it improves fuel mileage and
>>> power
>>> output from the engine. So I was just wondering if anyone has tried
>>> this
>>> little device in their piston aircraft?
>>> The theory makes sense, spinning air in the intake tract to help mix
>>> the
>>> air/fuel better before entering the cylinder. Now the ad says that this
>>> works in any gasoline burning engine (and they list almost every gas
>>> burning
>>> engine ever invented) except the ad didn't mention aircraft. I find
>>> this
>>> interesting cause if it works really that good in cars, trucks,
>>> motorcycles
>>> ect. ect wouldn't it work just as well in a airplane?
>>>
>>> I assume that this device hasn't been approved for use in piston powerd
>>> aircraft yet or, maybe it just isn't as good as the makers claim!
>>>
>>>
>>

--

Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P

"Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike)

Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic

Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity

[[email protected]]

Yep,

I have a pressure carb in the old Bonanza. It's more like throttle body
injection.
The neat thing about it is that it mixes the fuel very good as indicated
by being able to run well lean of peak. Smooth EGT's.
It doesn't get too rough before it quits, just looses power, then silence.

Dave

Michelle P wrote:
> Dave,
> I suspect you have a carburated engine? I suspect it would have little
> effect in a multi-point fuel injected engine.
> Michelle
>
> wrote:
>
>> Race car people dimple the inards of the intake manifold to make the
>> air a little bit more turbulent to help mix the gasses.
>> During cruise, i keep the throttle off the stops and my egt's smooth out.
>> I suspect for the same reason.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Dave S wrote:
>>
>>> So.. by adding a restriction to flow (in the form of some cute gizmo)
>>> you are intending to INCREASE horsepower?
>>>
>>> I recall hearing in another discussion group I participate in, that
>>> one of these devices came apart from the suction forces in the
>>> engine.. not what you want happening..
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just got home from work and at this time in the morning the only
>>>> thing on TV
>>>> is infomercials :(
>>>>
>>>> So here I am watching these infomercials and on comes the one for the
>>>> Cyclone Fuel Saver. Now they claim that it improves fuel mileage and
>>>> power
>>>> output from the engine. So I was just wondering if anyone has tried
>>>> this
>>>> little device in their piston aircraft?
>>>> The theory makes sense, spinning air in the intake tract to help mix
>>>> the
>>>> air/fuel better before entering the cylinder. Now the ad says that this
>>>> works in any gasoline burning engine (and they list almost every gas
>>>> burning
>>>> engine ever invented) except the ad didn't mention aircraft. I find
>>>> this
>>>> interesting cause if it works really that good in cars, trucks,
>>>> motorcycles
>>>> ect. ect wouldn't it work just as well in a airplane?
>>>>
>>>> I assume that this device hasn't been approved for use in piston powerd
>>>> aircraft yet or, maybe it just isn't as good as the makers claim!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

[Michelle P]

Dave,
Pressure Carb, Cool. Kinda reminds me of WW II Radials.
Michelle

wrote:

> Yep,
>
> I have a pressure carb in the old Bonanza. It's more like throttle
> body injection.
> The neat thing about it is that it mixes the fuel very good as
> indicated by being able to run well lean of peak. Smooth EGT's.
> It doesn't get too rough before it quits, just looses power, then
> silence.
>
> Dave
>
> Michelle P wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>> I suspect you have a carburated engine? I suspect it would have
>> little effect in a multi-point fuel injected engine.
>> Michelle
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Race car people dimple the inards of the intake manifold to make the
>>> air a little bit more turbulent to help mix the gasses.
>>> During cruise, i keep the throttle off the stops and my egt's smooth
>>> out.
>>> I suspect for the same reason.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Dave S wrote:
>>>
>>>> So.. by adding a restriction to flow (in the form of some cute
>>>> gizmo) you are intending to INCREASE horsepower?
>>>>
>>>> I recall hearing in another discussion group I participate in, that
>>>> one of these devices came apart from the suction forces in the
>>>> engine.. not what you want happening..
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just got home from work and at this time in the morning the only
>>>>> thing on TV
>>>>> is infomercials :(
>>>>>
>>>>> So here I am watching these infomercials and on comes the one for the
>>>>> Cyclone Fuel Saver. Now they claim that it improves fuel mileage
>>>>> and power
>>>>> output from the engine. So I was just wondering if anyone has
>>>>> tried this
>>>>> little device in their piston aircraft?
>>>>> The theory makes sense, spinning air in the intake tract to help
>>>>> mix the
>>>>> air/fuel better before entering the cylinder. Now the ad says that
>>>>> this
>>>>> works in any gasoline burning engine (and they list almost every
>>>>> gas burning
>>>>> engine ever invented) except the ad didn't mention aircraft. I
>>>>> find this
>>>>> interesting cause if it works really that good in cars, trucks,
>>>>> motorcycles
>>>>> ect. ect wouldn't it work just as well in a airplane?
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume that this device hasn't been approved for use in piston
>>>>> powerd
>>>>> aircraft yet or, maybe it just isn't as good as the makers claim!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>

--

Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P

"Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike)

Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic

Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity

[Ron Natalie]

"Michelle P" > wrote in message
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> Dave,
> Pressure Carb, Cool. Kinda reminds me of WW II Radials.
> Michelle
>
The Gopher35 in the Navion had one of those. Mine even had an atltidue
compensator on it so you didn't touch the mixture below 12000'.

Gone injected on the new engine though.