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Jim Burns
September 29th 04, 08:39 PM
Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines and
airplanes.
Thanks
Jim


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G.R. Patterson III
September 29th 04, 08:41 PM
Jim Burns wrote:
>
> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines and
> airplanes.

Aeroshell 15W-50 in a Lycoming O-320-B2D.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

Nathan Young
September 29th 04, 08:43 PM
Lycoming O-360-A4A
Aeroshell 15W50

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:39:30 -0500, "Jim Burns"
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>airplanes.
>Thanks
>Jim
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Peter MacPherson
September 29th 04, 09:23 PM
Phillips 66
Lycoming O-360-A4K


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PaulaJay1
September 29th 04, 09:46 PM
In article >, "Jim Burns"
> writes:

>Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines and
>airplanes.

AeroShell 15w50 in a Lycoming 360 A4M.

Chuck

Dude
September 29th 04, 10:04 PM
Same oil in slight variant of 360. Works well, burns only about 1 qt per
hundred hours.


"PaulaJay1" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Jim Burns"
> > writes:
>
> >Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines
and
> >airplanes.
>
> AeroShell 15w50 in a Lycoming 360 A4M.
>
> Chuck

Peter MacPherson
September 29th 04, 10:29 PM
Wow....1 quart in 100 hours. I need to get some of that... ; - )


"Dude" > wrote in message
...
> Same oil in slight variant of 360. Works well, burns only about 1 qt per
> hundred hours.
>
>
> "PaulaJay1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, "Jim Burns"
>> > writes:
>>
>> >Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines
> and
>> >airplanes.
>>
>> AeroShell 15w50 in a Lycoming 360 A4M.
>>
>> Chuck
>
>

G.R. Patterson III
September 29th 04, 10:31 PM
Dude wrote:
>
> Same oil in slight variant of 360. Works well, burns only about 1 qt per
> hundred hours.

Are you extrapolating that burn rate? I change my oil long before 100 hours.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

Dude
September 29th 04, 10:42 PM
Actually, that would not be correct, sorry.

I usually put in a quart at about fifty, and change it at 85 -100. I do
about 225 to 250 a year, and the oil seems to hold up fine with only
changing every 100 hours.

Also, I only add at 4.5 qts but it shows 6 after a change. So, I add one qt
between changes, but likely burn 2.5 to 3 per 100 hours.

Perhaps I could get a job as a government accountant?



"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Dude wrote:
> >
> > Same oil in slight variant of 360. Works well, burns only about 1 qt
per
> > hundred hours.
>
> Are you extrapolating that burn rate? I change my oil long before 100
hours.
>
> George Patterson
> If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to
have
> been looking for it.

September 29th 04, 11:05 PM
Right now we're running Aeroshell 100 straight mineral oil during break-in
on our factory reman Lyc. IO-360. After that, we plan to use Aeroshell
15W50

--
-Elliott Drucker

Rutger
September 30th 04, 02:52 AM
What oil do I use? Phillips X/C 20W50

What oil do I refuse to use? Umm, how 'bout those 12 quarts off of
Jay's hangar floor.

Roy Page
September 30th 04, 02:57 AM
Lycoming O-360-A4A
Aeroshell 15W50

Roy Page
Beloit, OH

"Rutger" > wrote in message
om...
> What oil do I use? Phillips X/C 20W50
>
> What oil do I refuse to use? Umm, how 'bout those 12 quarts off of
> Jay's hangar floor.

tony roberts
September 30th 04, 03:30 AM
Continental 0300D
Summer - Aeroshell 100 plus 12 oz Avblend
Winter Aeroshell 80 plus 12 oz Avblend.

Oil I would never use? That's easy - anything made by Exxon .
Why? They sucked me in at Arlington 2003 to attend a presentation on
engine maintenance. The presenter was 25 minutes late, didn't apologise
but said we have lots of time this won't take long, and then did a
blatant 30 minutes sales pitch for Exxon. I complained to Exxon about
it but didn't get any reply. Arlington 2004 I noticed a presentation
with the same title so I looked inside - sure enough - same guy same
pitch. To bill a sales pitch as an engine maintenance seminar to get
people to attend is, to me highly unethical, and I won't deal with them.

Tony

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PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

Orval Fairbairn
September 30th 04, 03:33 AM
In article >,
"Jim Burns" > wrote:

> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines and
> airplanes.
> Thanks
> Jim
>

Aeroshell W100; W100+ in spring, summer, ultrasummer, fall; 15W50 in
winter in Lycoming O-435-C.

john smith
September 30th 04, 03:55 AM
AeroShell 15W50 year-round.
Continental A65-8, Central Ohio climate
I don't think we have ever used Exxon, and it has been quite awhile
since we last used Phillips XC.

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Dale
September 30th 04, 04:36 AM
In article >,
"Jim Burns" > wrote:

> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines and
> airplanes.


Aeroshell 15W50 in Continental IO520 and TSIO520 in Cessna P206s used to
haul skydivers. The engines make TBO and in 1000 hours of flying these
airplanes we have not changed a cylinder.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

Kai Glaesner
September 30th 04, 07:45 AM
In Summer Aeroshell 100 and a strange (and expensive) additive supplied by
Lyc. in a plastic bottle...

"Jim Burns" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> airplanes.
> Thanks
> Jim
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tom418
September 30th 04, 11:33 AM
Aeroshell 15w50
Lycoming IO360C1E6 and LIO360C1E6
(Piper Seneca1)

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Paul Sengupta
September 30th 04, 11:43 AM
Aeroshell 15W50
Lycoming IO-360-A1B6.

I wouldn't refuse to use any oil if someone were to buy it for me.

I prefer the Aeroshell 15W50 as it has the anti-corrosion stuff for
when my plane sits idle for a couple of weeks.

September 30th 04, 12:09 PM
Lycoming O-360-A3A
Summer, Aeroshell 50
Winter, Aeroshell 40

I figure I don't need additives since it flies at least once a week. Chrome
jugs that burn a quart in 8-10 hours, so at 40-50 hours it's ready for a change and
has had a bit more than a case run through it.


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Javier Henderson
September 30th 04, 04:25 PM
"Paul Sengupta" > writes:

> Aeroshell 15W50
> Lycoming IO-360-A1B6.
>
> I wouldn't refuse to use any oil if someone were to buy it for me.
>
> I prefer the Aeroshell 15W50 as it has the anti-corrosion stuff for
> when my plane sits idle for a couple of weeks.

It's not an anticorrosion additive. It's antiscuffing.

-jav

Javier Henderson
September 30th 04, 04:26 PM
"Kai Glaesner" > writes:

> In Summer Aeroshell 100 and a strange (and expensive) additive supplied by
> Lyc. in a plastic bottle...

Aeroshell 100W+ (note, "plus") has the additive added at the factory.

-jav

Javier Henderson
September 30th 04, 04:26 PM
"Jim Burns" > writes:

> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines and
> airplanes.

C182
TCM O-470-R
Aeroshell 100W+

-jav

Paul Sengupta
September 30th 04, 05:16 PM
"Javier Henderson" > wrote in message
...
> "Paul Sengupta" > writes:
>
> > Aeroshell 15W50
> > Lycoming IO-360-A1B6.
> >
> > I wouldn't refuse to use any oil if someone were to buy it for me.
> >
> > I prefer the Aeroshell 15W50 as it has the anti-corrosion stuff for
> > when my plane sits idle for a couple of weeks.
>
> It's not an anticorrosion additive. It's antiscuffing.

http://www.avweb.com/news/maint/182909-1.html
(from 1995)
"About a year ago, Shell started adding a new corrosion inhibitor to the
additive package of Aeroshell 15W-50"

http://www.avbuyer.com/Editorial/GAB%20Engine%20Cam%20Dec03.asp
"The best way to avoid this is to fly frequently - the engine manufacturers
recommend a minimum of once every two weeks. If this is not possible, then
consider using an oil containing a corrosion inhibitor, such as AeroShell
Oil W 15W-50 or AeroShell Oil W 100 Plus."

Paul

Paul Sengupta
September 30th 04, 05:18 PM
"Paul Sengupta" > wrote in message
...
> "Javier Henderson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Paul Sengupta" > writes:
> >
> > > Aeroshell 15W50
> > > Lycoming IO-360-A1B6.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't refuse to use any oil if someone were to buy it for me.
> > >
> > > I prefer the Aeroshell 15W50 as it has the anti-corrosion stuff for
> > > when my plane sits idle for a couple of weeks.
> >
> > It's not an anticorrosion additive. It's antiscuffing.
>
> http://www.avweb.com/news/maint/182909-1.html
> (from 1995)
> "About a year ago, Shell started adding a new corrosion inhibitor to the
> additive package of Aeroshell 15W-50"
>
> http://www.avbuyer.com/Editorial/GAB%20Engine%20Cam%20Dec03.asp
> "The best way to avoid this is to fly frequently - the engine
manufacturers
> recommend a minimum of once every two weeks. If this is not possible, then
> consider using an oil containing a corrosion inhibitor, such as AeroShell
> Oil W 15W-50 or AeroShell Oil W 100 Plus."

Of course, the anti-scuffing properties after having not flown for a week or
two also don't hurt!

Paul

dave
September 30th 04, 10:41 PM
exxon elite 20-50
dave
68 7ECA

Jim Burns wrote:

> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines and
> airplanes.
> Thanks
> Jim
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Newps
September 30th 04, 11:27 PM
> Jim Burns wrote:
>
>> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what
>> engines and
>> airplanes.

Whatever's cheapest, currently Phillips XC 20W-50 in my 182.

Jay Honeck
October 1st 04, 12:35 AM
> What oil do I refuse to use? Umm, how 'bout those 12 quarts off of
> Jay's hangar floor.

Hey, my hangar floor is very, very clean!

Slippery, too.

;-)
--
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
October 1st 04, 12:37 AM
Aeroshell 15W-50
Lycoming O-540-B4B5
PA28-235
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

October 1st 04, 01:36 AM
AeroShell 15W50 in a Lyc 0320-E2D in a 172M. Religously preheat below
35 deg F, change at least every 30 hrs including filter, carefully
keep cooling baffles in place and keep clean cyl fins, burn mostly
autofuel.

Now at only 1700 hrs TTSNew, never open except for oil pump AD, and 30
hrs /quart (i. e. I never add any between changes). Oil analysis keep
coming back w no problems.

The dilemma - when should I tear it down on general principle?

Fastglasair
October 1st 04, 05:43 AM
Do you guys know that you can purchase Aeroshell 15W50 and W100 or W80 at some
Sams club locations. If yours does not stock, I was able to get mine in
Ogden,UT to do so. I ordered 20 cases, this primed the pump to get them to
stock and I spread the word to others to keep the demand up to keep it in
stock. The prices were VERY good. I assure you you won't find better prices.

Al Marzo
October 1st 04, 02:03 PM
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:37:18 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>Aeroshell 15W-50
>Lycoming O-540-B4B5
>PA28-235

Same stuff he drains! ;-)

OtisWinslow
October 1st 04, 02:20 PM
Phillips X/C.


"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
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> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines
> and
> airplanes.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
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Mike Rapoport
October 1st 04, 03:04 PM
> wrote in message
om...
> AeroShell 15W50 in a Lyc 0320-E2D in a 172M. Religously preheat below
> 35 deg F, change at least every 30 hrs including filter, carefully
> keep cooling baffles in place and keep clean cyl fins, burn mostly
> autofuel.
>
> Now at only 1700 hrs TTSNew, never open except for oil pump AD, and 30
> hrs /quart (i. e. I never add any between changes). Oil analysis keep
> coming back w no problems.
>
> The dilemma - when should I tear it down on general principle?

If it is not making metal then it is not wearing out. Engines can last a
long time under the right circumstances. I remember hearing of a Chevy V8
powering a natural gas compressor in Texas that ran without stopping for
over 30 years at high power without an oil change.

Mike
MU-2

N7155A
October 1st 04, 06:59 PM
We use Aeroshell 80W in Cont O-200 and O-300 in Cessna 150 and 172.
These engines throw out a quart every 5 to 7 hrs, on a 50 hour oil
change with oil filters.

We are also using 80W in a Lyco O320-E2D in a 172. It uses a quart in
about 20 hrs.

Mitch Williams



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> airplanes.
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> Jim
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Matt Whiting
October 1st 04, 07:39 PM
Mike Rapoport wrote:

> > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>AeroShell 15W50 in a Lyc 0320-E2D in a 172M. Religously preheat below
>>35 deg F, change at least every 30 hrs including filter, carefully
>>keep cooling baffles in place and keep clean cyl fins, burn mostly
>>autofuel.
>>
>>Now at only 1700 hrs TTSNew, never open except for oil pump AD, and 30
>>hrs /quart (i. e. I never add any between changes). Oil analysis keep
>>coming back w no problems.
>>
>>The dilemma - when should I tear it down on general principle?
>
>
> If it is not making metal then it is not wearing out. Engines can last a
> long time under the right circumstances. I remember hearing of a Chevy V8
> powering a natural gas compressor in Texas that ran without stopping for
> over 30 years at high power without an oil change.

Well, I'll bet it had a continual oil change (make-up oil HAD to be
added) and probably had a very high efficiency oil filter.


Matt

Mike Rapoport
October 2nd 04, 12:43 AM
"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Mike Rapoport wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> om...
>>
>>>AeroShell 15W50 in a Lyc 0320-E2D in a 172M. Religously preheat below
>>>35 deg F, change at least every 30 hrs including filter, carefully
>>>keep cooling baffles in place and keep clean cyl fins, burn mostly
>>>autofuel.
>>>
>>>Now at only 1700 hrs TTSNew, never open except for oil pump AD, and 30
>>>hrs /quart (i. e. I never add any between changes). Oil analysis keep
>>>coming back w no problems.
>>>
>>>The dilemma - when should I tear it down on general principle?
>>
>>
>> If it is not making metal then it is not wearing out. Engines can last a
>> long time under the right circumstances. I remember hearing of a Chevy
>> V8 powering a natural gas compressor in Texas that ran without stopping
>> for over 30 years at high power without an oil change.
>
> Well, I'll bet it had a continual oil change (make-up oil HAD to be added)
> and probably had a very high efficiency oil filter.
>
>
> Matt
>

Yes, oil was added but it have a regular 1960's oil filter.

Mike
MU-2

Al Gilson
October 2nd 04, 01:13 AM
Aeroshell 15W50 in a O-300D Continental. One quart every 15 hours. 50
hours between changes with a screw-on filter.
- - - - - - -
Al Gilson
1964 Skyhawk
Spokane, WA

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Spokane, WA USA
1970 VW Convertible
1964 Cessna Skyhawk

Al Marzo
October 2nd 04, 02:41 AM
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:04:14 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
> wrote:

>If it is not making metal then it is not wearing out. Engines can last a
>long time under the right circumstances. I remember hearing of a Chevy V8
>powering a natural gas compressor in Texas that ran without stopping for
>over 30 years at high power without an oil change.
>
>Mike
>MU-2

Sounds like one of those "Texas Stories" we hear about!

Javier Henderson
October 2nd 04, 05:53 AM
(Fastglasair) writes:

> Do you guys know that you can purchase Aeroshell 15W50 and W100 or W80 at some
> Sams club locations. If yours does not stock, I was able to get mine in
> Ogden,UT to do so. I ordered 20 cases, this primed the pump to get them to
> stock and I spread the word to others to keep the demand up to keep it in
> stock. The prices were VERY good. I assure you you won't find better prices.

What's the price like?

I'm paying $32/case for 100W+ at a local oil jobber (Golden Gate Petroleum).

-jav

Matt Whiting
October 2nd 04, 02:03 PM
Mike Rapoport wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>
>>
> wrote in message
om...
>>>
>>>
>>>>AeroShell 15W50 in a Lyc 0320-E2D in a 172M. Religously preheat below
>>>>35 deg F, change at least every 30 hrs including filter, carefully
>>>>keep cooling baffles in place and keep clean cyl fins, burn mostly
>>>>autofuel.
>>>>
>>>>Now at only 1700 hrs TTSNew, never open except for oil pump AD, and 30
>>>>hrs /quart (i. e. I never add any between changes). Oil analysis keep
>>>>coming back w no problems.
>>>>
>>>>The dilemma - when should I tear it down on general principle?
>>>
>>>
>>>If it is not making metal then it is not wearing out. Engines can last a
>>>long time under the right circumstances. I remember hearing of a Chevy
>>>V8 powering a natural gas compressor in Texas that ran without stopping
>>>for over 30 years at high power without an oil change.
>>
>>Well, I'll bet it had a continual oil change (make-up oil HAD to be added)
>>and probably had a very high efficiency oil filter.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>>
>
>
> Yes, oil was added but it have a regular 1960's oil filter.
>
> Mike
> MU-2
>
>

I don't know what a typical oil consumption is for a Chevy V-8 of that
vintage, but I'll guess it got a complete oil change every 100-200 hours
then.

Did they ever change the oil filter? I don't see how they could if it
had the standard auto spin-on. If they didn't, then this filter was in
bypass mode after probably 500-1000 hours. Most ground power units like
this have an external filter with a manual bypass so the filter can be
changed while the engine is running.


Matt

DBlumel
October 2nd 04, 03:28 PM
>What's the price like?
>
>I'm paying $32/case for 100W+ at a local oil jobber (Golden Gate Petroleum).
I paid $21.00/case for W100 Aeroshell and $37.00/case for 15W-50. These prices
do not include state sales tax.

Javier Henderson
October 3rd 04, 03:12 AM
(DBlumel) writes:

> >What's the price like?
> >
> >I'm paying $32/case for 100W+ at a local oil jobber (Golden Gate Petroleum).
> I paid $21.00/case for W100 Aeroshell and $37.00/case for 15W-50. These prices
> do not include state sales tax.

How much is 100W+ (note, Plus)? And where is this?

-jav

David Johnson
October 3rd 04, 05:21 AM
> >>
> >> If it is not making metal then it is not wearing out. Engines can last a
> >> long time under the right circumstances. I remember hearing of a Chevy
> >> V8 powering a natural gas compressor in Texas that ran without stopping
> >> for over 30 years at high power without an oil change.
> >
> > Well, I'll bet it had a continual oil change (make-up oil HAD to be added)
> > and probably had a very high efficiency oil filter.
> >
> >
> > Matt
> >
>
> Yes, oil was added but it have a regular 1960's oil filter.
>
> Mike
> MU-2

The fuel the engine is burning has a lot to do with it. Natural gas
and propane burn clean. I'm hardly an expert on such matters, but
have had some experience with emergency generators that run on
propane. The oil in the crankcase continues to look just like it
did when poured out of the can.

David Johnson

dave
October 3rd 04, 02:25 PM
Mike,
I hope you're joking. Non-stop? 8760 hours / year * 30 years = 262,800
hours at high output. Why aren't we all flying behind chevy v8's? If
the engine lasted that long, which it wouldn't without being rebuilt
several times, how did they change the points, plugs, condensor, coil,
etc. with the engine running?
Dave
68 7ECA

Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>AeroShell 15W50 in a Lyc 0320-E2D in a 172M. Religously preheat below
>>35 deg F, change at least every 30 hrs including filter, carefully
>>keep cooling baffles in place and keep clean cyl fins, burn mostly
>>autofuel.
>>
>>Now at only 1700 hrs TTSNew, never open except for oil pump AD, and 30
>>hrs /quart (i. e. I never add any between changes). Oil analysis keep
>>coming back w no problems.
>>
>>The dilemma - when should I tear it down on general principle?
>
>
> If it is not making metal then it is not wearing out. Engines can last a
> long time under the right circumstances. I remember hearing of a Chevy V8
> powering a natural gas compressor in Texas that ran without stopping for
> over 30 years at high power without an oil change.
>
> Mike
> MU-2
>
>

Maik
October 3rd 04, 02:37 PM
Lyc. IO-360
Exxon Elite 20W50

Jim Burns wrote:
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> airplanes.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
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Dan Luke
October 3rd 04, 02:52 PM
Aeroshell W100+ in Lycoming O-360.

Matt Whiting
October 3rd 04, 06:22 PM
dave wrote:

> Mike,
> I hope you're joking. Non-stop? 8760 hours / year * 30 years = 262,800
> hours at high output. Why aren't we all flying behind chevy v8's? If
> the engine lasted that long, which it wouldn't without being rebuilt
> several times, how did they change the points, plugs, condensor, coil,
> etc. with the engine running?

Yes, I think this falls in the urban legend category, as do many tall
takes from TX.


Matt

G.R. Patterson III
October 3rd 04, 08:21 PM
dave wrote:
>
> I hope you're joking. Non-stop? 8760 hours / year * 30 years = 262,800
> hours at high output. Why aren't we all flying behind chevy v8's?

'Cause a natural gas fuel tank weighs too much.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

Ben Jackson
October 4th 04, 05:06 AM
In article >,
Javier Henderson > wrote:
(DBlumel) writes:
>
>> >What's the price like?
>> >
>> >I'm paying $32/case for 100W+ at a local oil jobber (Golden Gate Petroleum).
>> I paid $21.00/case for W100 Aeroshell and $37.00/case for 15W-50. These prices
>> do not include state sales tax.
>
>How much is 100W+ (note, Plus)? And where is this?

Around here, where I buy from a local Shell distributor, the price for
W100+ falls right between W100 and 15W-50, and the prices are similar
to those.

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Ben Jackson
>
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clyde woempner
January 16th 05, 10:27 PM
Shell 50 wt in the spring, summer & 15/50 in the fall & winter. Oil is
changed 4 times a year on my o-320 e2d. I have about 370 hrs on a factory
overhaul, & I have not had to add any oil between changes. Engines does not
have a oil filter.
Clyde

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
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> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines
and
> airplanes.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
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Rosspilot
January 16th 05, 10:40 PM
>> Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines
>and
>> airplanes.

Aeroshell 15-50 in my Cont O-300.
www.Rosspilot.com

tony roberts
January 17th 05, 03:03 AM
Aeroshell 80 or 100, depending on season.
Many A & E's have changed their thinking away fron 15/50 and are now
recommending straight weight.

What I won't use is Exxon.
At the EAA Arlington they have a guy named Ed Barnes who presents a rust
seminar in the forum tents.
He turns up late, and his whole presentation is not a forum - it is a
blatant pitch for us to buy Exxon - he even offers a discount.
The product may or not be good.
But the deception in promoting the product is absolutely unacceptable to
me.

Tony

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Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE


In article >,
"clyde woempner" > wrote:

> Shell 50 wt in the spring, summer & 15/50 in the fall & winter. Oil is
> changed 4 times a year on my o-320 e2d. I have about 370 hrs on a factory
> overhaul, & I have not had to add any oil between changes. Engines does not
> have a oil filter.
> Clyde
>
> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Wonder which oils the group members are currently useing in what engines
> and
> > airplanes.
> > Thanks
> > Jim
> >
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January 17th 05, 05:13 PM
We use Aeroshell 15W50 in all six of our Lycomings. It has the
additive recommended by Lycoming for the cam/lifter life. The
straight-weights don't, as far as I know.
We had cam trouble some years ago with another brand that didn't
have that additive. Might have been the lack of additive, might have
been the oil itself, might have been a bad cam. It was in an engine run
hard almost every day; corrosion wasn't a factor.

Dan

clyde woempner
January 22nd 05, 06:56 AM
"David Johnson" > wrote in message
om...
> > >>
> > >> If it is not making metal then it is not wearing out. Engines can
last a
> > >> long time under the right circumstances. I remember hearing of a
Chevy
> > >> V8 powering a natural gas compressor in Texas that ran without
stopping
> > >> for over 30 years at high power without an oil change.
> > >
Whoa-time out, I need to go and find my **** kicking Texas cowboy boots for
this one.
Clyde


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