Off I go to help with my first annual on my C-150

[NW_PILOT]

Off I go to help with my first annual tell you all how today goes later this
evening. Lets hope for the best

[Jay Honeck]

> Off I go to help with my first annual

Brace for impact!

;-)

(Bring money...lots of money...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[NW_PILOT]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:4iied.298956$D%.72910@attbi_s51...
> > Off I go to help with my first annual
>
> Brace for impact!
>
> ;-)
>
> (Bring money...lots of money...)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>


Inspection is done it was not that bad only a few squawks total parts outlay
so far $285.00 and $180.00 of that was in spark plugs

Compression

Cyl #1 78/80
Cyl #2 79/80
Cyl #3 78/80
Cyl #4 77/80

Tomorrow is a day of rest Sunday estimating another 5 hours to fix squawks.


1 Bad Spark Plug Totally Dead Not Firing On #3 Lower Also A 41 not a 40



2 EM-41's Replace With REM-40



Starter Bolts Not Safety Tied I Don't know how that was Missed on Pre
Purchase and last Annual?



Froze up pulley on elevator cable guide roller "barring was clogged with
dirt/lint and grit cleaned lubed functions OK!"



Front Strut & Shimmy Damper Needs Oil And Or Air Its a Little Low



Fuel Cap Seals cracking need replacing.



Gasulator drain tube broken & needs replaced



Nut Plate & Seat Rail AD complied with.



4 cowling shock mounts need replacing. 2 have cracks 2 totally broken



This was the forth set of eyes on this bird in 1 year she is getting a lot
of attention.

[zatatime]

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:38:48 -0700, "NW_PILOT" >
wrote:

>1 Bad Spark Plug Totally Dead Not Firing On #3 Lower Also A 41 not a 40


How'd you isolate this one? Were the plugs worn badly?

z

[Jim Weir]

"NW_PILOT" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


->
->Inspection is done it was not that bad only a few squawks total parts outlay
->so far $285.00 and $180.00 of that was in spark plugs

Didn't nobody never tell you about Aircraft Spark Plug Service in Van Nuys? $75
would have gotten you a complete set of overhauled plugs for a 4-banger. The
drill is to send them your old plugs immediately after the annual and for about
$50 a set they will overhaul YOUR plugs and send them back yellow-tagged. You
then put them on the shelf for NEXT year's annual.


->Starter Bolts Not Safety Tied I Don't know how that was Missed on Pre
->Purchase and last Annual?

I'd let the IA put the words in the logbook. It appears that English is not
your primary language. See comment later about safety wire.



->Froze up pulley on elevator cable guide roller "barring was clogged with
->dirt/lint and grit cleaned lubed functions OK!"

Too many words. "Elevator cable guide roller bearing (sta 132) frozen.
Cleaned and lubricated bearing. Functional test OK.

Nobody really cares what the bearing was clogged with.




->
->
->This was the forth set of eyes on this bird in 1 year she is getting a lot
->of attention.

And three of them missed the starter safety wire? Without pulling the manual, I
can't remember whether the starter bolts have lockwashers or whether they
REQUIRE safety wire. Why do you think that safety wire is required?

Jim


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Jim Weir]

I didn't want to belabor the obvious. However, one certainly would have
suspected this, would one not?

Jim


"Jim Burns" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->> 1 Bad Spark Plug Totally Dead Not Firing On #3 Lower Also A 41 not a 40
->
->I haven't flown a 150 in over 18 years, but didn't you notice the dead plug
->doing a mag check?


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Jim Burns]

> 1 Bad Spark Plug Totally Dead Not Firing On #3 Lower Also A 41 not a 40

I haven't flown a 150 in over 18 years, but didn't you notice the dead plug
doing a mag check?

Jim



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[Darrel Toepfer]

Jim Weir wrote:

> Didn't nobody never tell you about Aircraft Spark Plug Service in Van Nuys? $75
> would have gotten you a complete set of overhauled plugs for a 4-banger. The
> drill is to send them your old plugs immediately after the annual and for about
> $50 a set they will overhaul YOUR plugs and send them back yellow-tagged. You
> then put them on the shelf for NEXT year's annual.

Paid alittle more than half that ($8 ea.) for a six banger from another.
Will get the contact info if anyone is interested. Can't report on how
well they perform (ordered 12) until they arrive, should be here this
coming week...

[zatatime]

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:09:04 -0500, Darrel Toepfer
> wrote:

>Will get the contact info if anyone is interested


Yes please.

z

[Jim Weir]

No, you paid almost exactly the same. A four-banger is eight plugs, times $8 a
plug, plus postage on ten pounds comes up to about $75.

Jim


Darrel Toepfer >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->Jim Weir wrote:
->
->> Didn't nobody never tell you about Aircraft Spark Plug Service in Van Nuys?
$75
->> would have gotten you a complete set of overhauled plugs for a 4-banger.
The
->> drill is to send them your old plugs immediately after the annual and for
about
->> $50 a set they will overhaul YOUR plugs and send them back yellow-tagged.
You
->> then put them on the shelf for NEXT year's annual.


->
->Paid alittle more than half that ($8 ea.) for a six banger from another.
->Will get the contact info if anyone is interested. Can't report on how
->well they perform (ordered 12) until they arrive, should be here this
->coming week...



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[No Spam]

> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:09:04 -0500, Darrel Toepfer
> > wrote:
>
>> Will get the contact info if anyone is interested
>
>
> Yes please.
>
> z


http://www.trade-a-plane.com/unprotected/cgi-bin/nph-redirect.pl?type=D&id=8
50&url=/unprotected/dispads/0000665206.pdf

Their ad says $3.50/plug. Shipping...?



No Spam

[NW_PILOT]

Plug would fire when cold but not hot.


"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> > 1 Bad Spark Plug Totally Dead Not Firing On #3 Lower Also A 41 not a 40
>
> I haven't flown a 150 in over 18 years, but didn't you notice the dead
plug
> doing a mag check?
>
> Jim
>
>
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[Darrel Toepfer]

No Spam wrote:

> Their ad says $3.50/plug. Shipping...?

But the price quoted is using your own plugs, we purchased refurbished
ones outright for $8 ea. No core required...

[Jim Weir]

Plug is as hot as it is going to get within a minute of engine start, certainly
within the five minutes it takes to taxi to the runup area. Another explanation
needed.

Jim



"NW_PILOT" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->Plug would fire when cold but not hot.




Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Jim Burns]

Broken plug wire?
Jim

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> Plug is as hot as it is going to get within a minute of engine start,
certainly
> within the five minutes it takes to taxi to the runup area. Another
explanation
> needed.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> "NW_PILOT" >
> shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
>
> ->Plug would fire when cold but not hot.
>
>
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com


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[Javier Henderson]

Jim Weir > writes:

> Didn't nobody never tell you about Aircraft Spark Plug Service in Van Nuys? $75
> would have gotten you a complete set of overhauled plugs for a 4-banger. The
> drill is to send them your old plugs immediately after the annual and for about
> $50 a set they will overhaul YOUR plugs and send them back yellow-tagged. You
> then put them on the shelf for NEXT year's annual.

I've used this service, after Jim's recommendations. Very fast
turnaround, the suckers look new, and they come sealed in individual
plastic bags, and with a new copper gasket. All for $3.50/plug plus
s&h for the lot, which came to about five bucks as I recall. An
excellent deal.

> And three of them missed the starter safety wire? Without pulling the manual, I
> can't remember whether the starter bolts have lockwashers or whether they
> REQUIRE safety wire. Why do you think that safety wire is required?

In my Skylane, the starter bolts aren't safetied. I don't remember
them having lockwashers, either. I do remember the torque spec for
some odd reason (250 inch/pounds, per the TCM tech on the phone).

And come to think of it, they're not bolts either, they're nuts on
studs. The engine is an O-4700-R.

-jav

[Darrel Toepfer]

zatatime wrote:

> > Will get the contact info if anyone is interested
>
> Yes please.

It was Aircraft Spark Plug Service... <G>

There is a cheaper plug refurbisher than them listed in Trade-A-Plane,
will have to find it...

[zatatime]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:48:12 -0500, Darrel Toepfer
> wrote:

>Aircraft Spark Plug Service


Thanks!

z

[Scott Skylane]

Javier Henderson wrote:
/snip/
>
> And come to think of it, they're not bolts either, they're nuts on
> studs. The engine is an O-4700-R.
>
> -jav

Wow! I want one of those! ;)

[Jim Weir]

Jeeezuz Christ, and I signed that sucker off with what has to be a 2500 horse
engine on it? What was I THINKING????

Jim


Javier Henderson >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-
->And come to think of it, they're not bolts either, they're nuts on
->studs. The engine is an O-4700-R.
->
->-jav

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Javier Henderson]

Jim Weir > writes:

> Jeeezuz Christ, and I signed that sucker off with what has to be a 2500 horse
> engine on it? What was I THINKING????

You ought to see the performance! I'm at pattern altitude seconds
after rotation. Which is good, because I run out of fuel seconds
after rotation.

-jav

[Russell Kent]

Javier Henderson wrote:
> And come to think of it, they're not bolts either, they're nuts on
> studs. The engine is an O-4700-R.

"Scott Skylane" > replied:
> Wow! I want one of those! ;)

Are you kidding? The fuel bill per hour would be a killer!

Russell Kent

[Russell Kent]

Jim Weir > writes:
> Jeeezuz Christ, and I signed that sucker off with what has to be a 2500
horse
> engine on it? What was I THINKING????

"Javier Henderson" > replied:
> You ought to see the performance! I'm at pattern altitude seconds
> after rotation. Which is good, because I run out of fuel seconds
> after rotation.

Yeah, but with that built-in noisemaker (the prop tips breaking Mach 5 or
so) everybody knows to stay clear...

Russell Kent