some cost info

[Rosspilot]

This is just one man's numbers, but they are real world and may be of interest.
I am particularly anal about my aircraft expenses . . . every nickel spent on
flying (including buying toys and gadgetry, charts,, landing fees, fuel,
WHATEVER) is kept in an Access database. There are the following catagories:

Parking (tie-downs, landing fees, ramp fees), Fuel, Insurance, Maint (includes
all inspections, repairs (including a $13,000 engine repair in 99), servicing,
gadgetry, new paint and glass, Strikefinder, etc), and Acquisition (purchase
price plus title search and other adminstrative fees paid).

Since purchasing this plane (May 98) I have flown her 775 hrs, and spent $101,
560 to do it. That's $131.00 / hr to own and fly this airplane.

With all the joy and convenience of ownership, and a wet rental '67 172 at a
nearby FBO (not nearly as well-equipped as mine) at $90/hr, it's a good deal
even without the business/tax implications.





www.Rosspilot.com

[Mike Noel]

Am I right in assuming you have included the purchase price in this
calculation? If so, you should probably deduct the resale value to come up
with a realistic cost of ownership.

--
Regards,
Mike

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/amountainaero/fspic1.html
"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
> This is just one man's numbers, but they are real world and may be of
interest.
> I am particularly anal about my aircraft expenses . . . every nickel
spent on
> flying (including buying toys and gadgetry, charts,, landing fees, fuel,
> WHATEVER) is kept in an Access database. There are the following
catagories:
>
> Parking (tie-downs, landing fees, ramp fees), Fuel, Insurance, Maint
(includes
> all inspections, repairs (including a $13,000 engine repair in 99),
servicing,
> gadgetry, new paint and glass, Strikefinder, etc), and Acquisition
(purchase
> price plus title search and other adminstrative fees paid).
>
> Since purchasing this plane (May 98) I have flown her 775 hrs, and spent
$101,
> 560 to do it. That's $131.00 / hr to own and fly this airplane.
>
> With all the joy and convenience of ownership, and a wet rental '67 172
at a
> nearby FBO (not nearly as well-equipped as mine) at $90/hr, it's a good
deal
> even without the business/tax implications.
>
>
>
>
>
> www.Rosspilot.com
>
>

[Rosspilot]

>Am I right in assuming you have included the purchase price in this
>calculation? If so, you should probably deduct the resale value to come up
>with a realistic cost of ownership.
>

Yes, I included the acquisition costs, and I agree that I left off the equity
of the airplane. I was really trying to show how much out of my pocket cash it
cost me to own/fly this plane. Of course, if I sell it, I would deduct
whatever I get from the final cost/hr analysis. But that isn't in the cards
(for the moment).




>"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
>> This is just one man's numbers, but they are real world and may be of
>interest.
>> I am particularly anal about my aircraft expenses . . . every nickel
>spent on
>> flying (including buying toys and gadgetry, charts,, landing fees, fuel,
>> WHATEVER) is kept in an Access database. There are the following
>catagories:
>>
>> Parking (tie-downs, landing fees, ramp fees), Fuel, Insurance, Maint
>(includes
>> all inspections, repairs (including a $13,000 engine repair in 99),
>servicing,
>> gadgetry, new paint and glass, Strikefinder, etc), and Acquisition
>(purchase
>> price plus title search and other adminstrative fees paid).
>>
>> Since purchasing this plane (May 98) I have flown her 775 hrs, and spent
>$101,
>> 560 to do it. That's $131.00 / hr to own and fly this airplane.
>>
>> With all the joy and convenience of ownership, and a wet rental '67 172
>at a
>> nearby FBO (not nearly as well-equipped as mine) at $90/hr, it's a good
>deal
>> even without the business/tax implications.

www.Rosspilot.com

[Liberals,HATE,America!-]

Hey America-hating Moron, how ya feelin' since the election, eh? Have you
flown your piece of **** trainer into a building yet? You can always have
some 5-hour student fly it for you since that's all it takes to master that
thing.

FOUR MORE YEARS for Bush, and your hero Saddam rots in prison. HAHAHA!

See you on the way down from FL 450 Moron. Caution, wake turbulence, Moron!


--
Liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being.
They are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.

www.communistsforkerry.com

"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
> This is just one man's numbers, but they are real world and may be of
> interest.
> I am particularly anal about my aircraft expenses . . . every nickel spent
> on
> flying (including buying toys and gadgetry, charts,, landing fees, fuel,
> WHATEVER) is kept in an Access database. There are the following
> catagories:
>
> Parking (tie-downs, landing fees, ramp fees), Fuel, Insurance, Maint
> (includes
> all inspections, repairs (including a $13,000 engine repair in 99),
> servicing,
> gadgetry, new paint and glass, Strikefinder, etc), and Acquisition
> (purchase
> price plus title search and other adminstrative fees paid).
>
> Since purchasing this plane (May 98) I have flown her 775 hrs, and spent
> $101,
> 560 to do it. That's $131.00 / hr to own and fly this airplane.
>
> With all the joy and convenience of ownership, and a wet rental '67 172
> at a
> nearby FBO (not nearly as well-equipped as mine) at $90/hr, it's a good
> deal
> even without the business/tax implications.
>
>
>
>
>
> www.Rosspilot.com
>
>

[Bob Fry]

"Liberals,HATE,America!-" > writes:

> Hey America-hating Moron, how ya feelin' since the election, eh? Have you
> flown your piece of **** trainer into a building yet?

<rant deleted>

Ah...another Red State voter discusses their feelings.

[Liberals HATE,America!-!]

Hey America-hating Moron, how ya feelin' since the election, eh? Have you
flown your piece of **** trainer into a building yet? You can always have
some 5-hour student fly it for you since that's all it takes to master that
thing.

FOUR MORE YEARS for Bush, and your hero Saddam rots in prison. HAHAHA!

See you on the way down from FL 450 Moron. Caution, wake turbulence, Moron!


--
Liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being.
They are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.

www.communistsforkerry.com

"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
> >Am I right in assuming you have included the purchase price in this
>>calculation? If so, you should probably deduct the resale value to come
>>up
>>with a realistic cost of ownership.
>>
>
> Yes, I included the acquisition costs, and I agree that I left off the
> equity
> of the airplane. I was really trying to show how much out of my pocket
> cash it
> cost me to own/fly this plane. Of course, if I sell it, I would deduct
> whatever I get from the final cost/hr analysis. But that isn't in the
> cards
> (for the moment).
>
>
>
>
>>"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
>>> This is just one man's numbers, but they are real world and may be of
>>interest.
>>> I am particularly anal about my aircraft expenses . . . every nickel
>>spent on
>>> flying (including buying toys and gadgetry, charts,, landing fees, fuel,
>>> WHATEVER) is kept in an Access database. There are the following
>>catagories:
>>>
>>> Parking (tie-downs, landing fees, ramp fees), Fuel, Insurance, Maint
>>(includes
>>> all inspections, repairs (including a $13,000 engine repair in 99),
>>servicing,
>>> gadgetry, new paint and glass, Strikefinder, etc), and Acquisition
>>(purchase
>>> price plus title search and other adminstrative fees paid).
>>>
>>> Since purchasing this plane (May 98) I have flown her 775 hrs, and spent
>>$101,
>>> 560 to do it. That's $131.00 / hr to own and fly this airplane.
>>>
>>> With all the joy and convenience of ownership, and a wet rental '67 172
>>at a
>>> nearby FBO (not nearly as well-equipped as mine) at $90/hr, it's a good
>>deal
>>> even without the business/tax implications.
>
> www.Rosspilot.com
>
>

[Mike Rapoport]

"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> "Liberals,HATE,America!-" > writes:
>
>> Hey America-hating Moron, how ya feelin' since the election, eh? Have you
>> flown your piece of **** trainer into a building yet?
>
> <rant deleted>
>
> Ah...another Red State voter discusses their feelings.
>
I know. Makes me want to move from ID to CA or NY just so I am not
associated with this jerk.

Mike
MU-2

[Roger]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 02:23:50 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
> wrote:

>
>"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
>> "Liberals,HATE,America!-" > writes:
>>
>>> Hey America-hating Moron, how ya feelin' since the election, eh? Have you
>>> flown your piece of **** trainer into a building yet?
>>
>> <rant deleted>
>>
>> Ah...another Red State voter discusses their feelings.
>>
>I know. Makes me want to move from ID to CA or NY just so I am not
>associated with this jerk.

Not even that embarrassment would make me want to move to those two
states<:-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>Mike
>MU-2
>

[Bob Fry]

> >I know. Makes me want to move from ID to CA or NY just so I am not
> >associated with this jerk.
>
> Not even that embarrassment would make me want to move to those two
> states<:-))

Stay where you are. You're raising the average IQ in all three
states.

(You Red State guys will figure that out by next weekend).

:-)

[Mike Noel]

I'm a red state guy who was disenfranchised by the electoral college and I
figured it our right away. Good comment, though.

--
Regards,
Mike

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/amountainaero/fspic1.html
"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
>
> > >I know. Makes me want to move from ID to CA or NY just so I am not
> > >associated with this jerk.
> >
> > Not even that embarrassment would make me want to move to those two
> > states<:-))
>
> Stay where you are. You're raising the average IQ in all three
> states.
>
> (You Red State guys will figure that out by next weekend).
>
> :-)

[Roger]

On 21 Nov 2004 09:14:54 -0800, Bob Fry
> wrote:

>
>> >I know. Makes me want to move from ID to CA or NY just so I am not
>> >associated with this jerk.
>>
>> Not even that embarrassment would make me want to move to those two
>> states<:-))
>
>Stay where you are. You're raising the average IQ in all three
>states.

I'm actually in a blue state and I'd be raising the IQ in those states
if I moved there.

I was disenfranchised by both parties at least 4 elections back.

Roger
>
>(You Red State guys will figure that out by next weekend).
>
>:-)