Jet Ranger Operating Costs?

[greenwavepilot]

Two Scenarios:

1. Operating Costs for brand new Jet Ranger flying daily.

2. Operating Costs for Mid-time Jet Ranger flying daily.

Other Considerations:

1. Typical pilot salary costs (Commercial Rotorcraft Pilot) with over
2000 hours.

2. Will require hull AND Liability Insurance.

3. Will require hangar.

"The Story"

Company wants a Jet Ranger for daily use/transportation. [NB: Company
is dead set on the JR, so no need to recommend lower-cost
"alternatives"]

Company will also need a full-time pilot. Assuming financing the helo
in both scenarios, what yearly operating costs can be expected to
operate the Jet Ranger plus pilot?

Current "wild ass guess" estimate is $600US per flight hour. Is this
high or low?

Full Disclosure: I do not own the company, have no helo experience, and
can only hope to maybe (one day) get a short hop in it (it would make a
nice perk, huh?)

Thanks.

[Mike Rapoport]

I don't have the answers but it will depend a lot on how much it is flying
daily. $600/hr seems low unless it is flying several hours a day.

Mike
MU-2


"greenwavepilot" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Two Scenarios:
>
> 1. Operating Costs for brand new Jet Ranger flying daily.
>
> 2. Operating Costs for Mid-time Jet Ranger flying daily.
>
> Other Considerations:
>
> 1. Typical pilot salary costs (Commercial Rotorcraft Pilot) with over
> 2000 hours.
>
> 2. Will require hull AND Liability Insurance.
>
> 3. Will require hangar.
>
> "The Story"
>
> Company wants a Jet Ranger for daily use/transportation. [NB: Company
> is dead set on the JR, so no need to recommend lower-cost
> "alternatives"]
>
> Company will also need a full-time pilot. Assuming financing the helo
> in both scenarios, what yearly operating costs can be expected to
> operate the Jet Ranger plus pilot?
>
> Current "wild ass guess" estimate is $600US per flight hour. Is this
> high or low?
>
> Full Disclosure: I do not own the company, have no helo experience, and
> can only hope to maybe (one day) get a short hop in it (it would make a
> nice perk, huh?)
>
> Thanks.
>

[Matt Barrow]

"Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> I don't have the answers but it will depend a lot on how much it is flying
> daily. $600/hr seems low unless it is flying several hours a day.
>
> Mike
> MU-2

Bell quotes a DOC of $260 per hr for a 206B3.
http://www.bellhelicopter.com/en/aircraft/commercial/pdf/206B3ProdSpec2005jan.pdf
page 34-37.

Their estimates for fuel prices and maint labor are a bit odd, so TIWAGOS.
Figure insurance and pilot $5-6K per month plus bennies.


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

>
>
> "greenwavepilot" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Two Scenarios:
> >
> > 1. Operating Costs for brand new Jet Ranger flying daily.
> >
> > 2. Operating Costs for Mid-time Jet Ranger flying daily.
> >
> > Other Considerations:
> >
> > 1. Typical pilot salary costs (Commercial Rotorcraft Pilot) with over
> > 2000 hours.
> >
> > 2. Will require hull AND Liability Insurance.
> >
> > 3. Will require hangar.
> >
> > "The Story"
> >
> > Company wants a Jet Ranger for daily use/transportation. [NB: Company
> > is dead set on the JR, so no need to recommend lower-cost
> > "alternatives"]
> >
> > Company will also need a full-time pilot. Assuming financing the helo
> > in both scenarios, what yearly operating costs can be expected to
> > operate the Jet Ranger plus pilot?
> >
> > Current "wild ass guess" estimate is $600US per flight hour. Is this
> > high or low?
> >
> > Full Disclosure: I do not own the company, have no helo experience, and
> > can only hope to maybe (one day) get a short hop in it (it would make a
> > nice perk, huh?)
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
>

[Matt Barrow]

"greenwavepilot" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Two Scenarios:
>
> 1. Operating Costs for brand new Jet Ranger flying daily.
>
> 2. Operating Costs for Mid-time Jet Ranger flying daily.
>
> Other Considerations:
>
> 1. Typical pilot salary costs (Commercial Rotorcraft Pilot) with over
> 2000 hours.
>
> 2. Will require hull AND Liability Insurance.
>
> 3. Will require hangar.
>
> "The Story"
>
> Company wants a Jet Ranger for daily use/transportation. [NB: Company
> is dead set on the JR, so no need to recommend lower-cost
> "alternatives"]

How about a more expensive alternative: take them for a ride in a MD 520N!!

Problem: The MDH company is in dire straights until (most likely scenario)
Sikorsky buys them out later this year.


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

[greenwavepilot]

"$600/hr seems low unless it is flying several hours a day."
"Bell quotes a DOC of $260 per hr for a 206B3."
"Figure insurance and pilot $5-6K per month plus bennies."

Yeah, I was figuring that just helo/maint./fuel/hangar would be higher
than $600 per flight hour. It will be flying every day that weather
permits (say 300 days a year).

Trying to precisely nail down DOC as it relates to any aviation
operation seems as difficult as trying to shooting a dove with .22 from
the bow of a pitching boat. Not easy. Even trying to establish a
budgetable range has a lot of variables which cannot be isolated,
especially from the maintenance and fuel standpoint.

I appreciate the replies giving me a snapshot of the costs. I now need
to get my hands really dirty with the details.

Thanks.

[Mike Rapoport]

If you believe manufacturers DOC cost, I have a bridge to sell....Anyway DOC
are only a part of total cost and if you are only flying a couple hundred
hours per year, DOC is only a small percentage of total cost.

On the other hand, if you are the Los Angeles County Sheriff and your helos
are in the air 3000hrs/yr then DOC pretty much equals total cost.

Mike
MU-2


"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>> I don't have the answers but it will depend a lot on how much it is
>> flying
>> daily. $600/hr seems low unless it is flying several hours a day.
>>
>> Mike
>> MU-2
>
> Bell quotes a DOC of $260 per hr for a 206B3.
> http://www.bellhelicopter.com/en/aircraft/commercial/pdf/206B3ProdSpec2005jan.pdf
> page 34-37.
>
> Their estimates for fuel prices and maint labor are a bit odd, so TIWAGOS.
> Figure insurance and pilot $5-6K per month plus bennies.
>
>
> --
> Matt
> ---------------------
> Matthew W. Barrow
> Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
> Montrose, CO
>
>>
>>
>> "greenwavepilot" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> > Two Scenarios:
>> >
>> > 1. Operating Costs for brand new Jet Ranger flying daily.
>> >
>> > 2. Operating Costs for Mid-time Jet Ranger flying daily.
>> >
>> > Other Considerations:
>> >
>> > 1. Typical pilot salary costs (Commercial Rotorcraft Pilot) with over
>> > 2000 hours.
>> >
>> > 2. Will require hull AND Liability Insurance.
>> >
>> > 3. Will require hangar.
>> >
>> > "The Story"
>> >
>> > Company wants a Jet Ranger for daily use/transportation. [NB: Company
>> > is dead set on the JR, so no need to recommend lower-cost
>> > "alternatives"]
>> >
>> > Company will also need a full-time pilot. Assuming financing the helo
>> > in both scenarios, what yearly operating costs can be expected to
>> > operate the Jet Ranger plus pilot?
>> >
>> > Current "wild ass guess" estimate is $600US per flight hour. Is this
>> > high or low?
>> >
>> > Full Disclosure: I do not own the company, have no helo experience, and
>> > can only hope to maybe (one day) get a short hop in it (it would make a
>> > nice perk, huh?)
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>>
>>
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