new cleaning product: Simple Green for aircraft

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Anybody try this (rather expensive) new product (approved for
aircraft)? In particular, it's advertised as OK for aluminum, rubber
and plastic (unlike mineral spirits).

http://industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php

[Paul Anton]

If left in the faying surfaces, it WILL cause corrosion.

Try this yourself, take a small square of new shiny aluminum and leave it in
Simple Green for a day or so.




<> Anybody try this (rather expensive) new product (approved for
> aircraft)? In particular, it's advertised as OK for aluminum, rubber
> and plastic (unlike mineral spirits).
>
> http://industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php
>

[OtisWinslow]

Try WashWaxAll. I've tried and wasn't particularly impressed by Simple
Green. Have
used WWA for quite a while.

http://www.washwax.com/



> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Anybody try this (rather expensive) new product (approved for
> aircraft)? In particular, it's advertised as OK for aluminum, rubber
> and plastic (unlike mineral spirits).
>
> http://industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php
>

[Mike Rapoport]

I have some but haven't tried it yet.

Mike
MU-2


> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Anybody try this (rather expensive) new product (approved for
> aircraft)? In particular, it's advertised as OK for aluminum, rubber
> and plastic (unlike mineral spirits).
>
> http://industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php
>

[Roger]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:05:24 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
> wrote:

>I have some but haven't tried it yet.

Just don't get it where it can't be washed off or out. it will
corrode, but then again I've seen people cleaning their airplanes with
Formula 7, or is it 9 over at Oshkosh. That stuff has Ammonia in it
and will corrode Aluminum in a heartbeat.

it does clean well, but if no flushed off thoroughly it can be
expensive.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>Mike
>MU-2
>
>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>> Anybody try this (rather expensive) new product (approved for
>> aircraft)? In particular, it's advertised as OK for aluminum, rubber
>> and plastic (unlike mineral spirits).
>>
>> http://industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php
>>
>

[Mike Rapoport]

We are talking about different products. The simple green for aircraft
doesn't corrode aluminium.

Mike
MU-2

"Roger" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:05:24 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
> > wrote:
>
>>I have some but haven't tried it yet.
>
> Just don't get it where it can't be washed off or out. it will
> corrode, but then again I've seen people cleaning their airplanes with
> Formula 7, or is it 9 over at Oshkosh. That stuff has Ammonia in it
> and will corrode Aluminum in a heartbeat.
>
> it does clean well, but if no flushed off thoroughly it can be
> expensive.
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
> (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
> www.rogerhalstead.com
>>
>>Mike
>>MU-2
>>
>>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>> Anybody try this (rather expensive) new product (approved for
>>> aircraft)? In particular, it's advertised as OK for aluminum, rubber
>>> and plastic (unlike mineral spirits).
>>>
>>> http://industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php
>>>
>>
>

[Roger]

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:50:16 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
> wrote:

>We are talking about different products. The simple green for aircraft
>doesn't corrode aluminium.

I have a bottle of "Simple Green(TM) here and it will turn polished
Aluminum white if not thoroughly rinsed. That leads me to believe it
would not be a good idea to use it in areas where it could not be
thoroughly flushed.

Or do they make one version specifically for aircraft?

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

>
>Mike
>MU-2
>
>"Roger" > wrote in message
...
>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:05:24 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I have some but haven't tried it yet.
>>
>> Just don't get it where it can't be washed off or out. it will
>> corrode, but then again I've seen people cleaning their airplanes with
>> Formula 7, or is it 9 over at Oshkosh. That stuff has Ammonia in it
>> and will corrode Aluminum in a heartbeat.
>>
>> it does clean well, but if no flushed off thoroughly it can be
>> expensive.
>>
>> Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
>> (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
>> www.rogerhalstead.com
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>MU-2
>>>
>>>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>>> Anybody try this (rather expensive) new product (approved for
>>>> aircraft)? In particular, it's advertised as OK for aluminum, rubber
>>>> and plastic (unlike mineral spirits).
>>>>
>>>> http://industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

[John Clonts]

"Roger" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:50:16 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
> > wrote:
>
>>We are talking about different products. The simple green for aircraft
>>doesn't corrode aluminium.
>
> I have a bottle of "Simple Green(TM) here and it will turn polished
> Aluminum white if not thoroughly rinsed. That leads me to believe it
> would not be a good idea to use it in areas where it could not be
> thoroughly flushed.
>
> Or do they make one version specifically for aircraft?
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
> (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
> www.rogerhalstead.com
>

Yes, read the subject line, and the link in the original post!

[Blanche Cohen]

John Clonts > wrote:
>
>"Roger" > wrote in message
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:50:16 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
>>
>>>We are talking about different products. The simple green for aircraft
>>>doesn't corrode aluminium.
>>
>> I have a bottle of "Simple Green(TM) here and it will turn polished
>> Aluminum white if not thoroughly rinsed. That leads me to believe it
>> would not be a good idea to use it in areas where it could not be
>> thoroughly flushed.
>>
>> Or do they make one version specifically for aircraft?

>Yes, read the subject line, and the link in the original post!

Yup. And blessed by Boeing. It's named "Extreme Simple Green".

[Roger]

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:37:14 -0600, "John Clonts"
> wrote:

>
>"Roger" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:50:16 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>We are talking about different products. The simple green for aircraft
>>>doesn't corrode aluminium.
>>
>> I have a bottle of "Simple Green(TM) here and it will turn polished
>> Aluminum white if not thoroughly rinsed. That leads me to believe it
>> would not be a good idea to use it in areas where it could not be
>> thoroughly flushed.
>>
>> Or do they make one version specifically for aircraft?
>>
>> Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
>> (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
>> www.rogerhalstead.com
>>
>
>Yes, read the subject line, and the link in the original post!

I did read the subject line which only tells me that the OP called
Simple Green a cleaner for aricraft. Like a number of posts the
original is not on my server so I've never seen a link to this
product.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>

[Blanche Cohen]

Here's the link to Extreme Simple Green with the MSDS:

industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php

[RST Engineering]

So where do you get the stuff? I've not yet seen it on my favorite Q-Club
shelves. Somebody also said that it is pricey. What is the magnitude of
"pricey".

Jim


>
>>Yes, read the subject line, and the link in the original post!
>
> Yup. And blessed by Boeing. It's named "Extreme Simple Green".
>
>

[George Patterson]

RST Engineering wrote:
>
> So where do you get the stuff?

AOPA Pilot -- http://industrial.simplegreen.com .

George Patterson
He who would distinguish what is true from what is false must have an
adequate understanding of truth and falsehood.

[George Patterson]

Roger wrote:
>
> I did read the subject line which only tells me that the OP called
> Simple Green a cleaner for aricraft.

The actual name is "Extrem Simple Green Aircraft & Precision Cleaner." As the
subject says, it's a *new* Simple Green for aircraft.

George Patterson
He who would distinguish what is true from what is false must have an
adequate understanding of truth and falsehood.

[Roger]

On 14 Feb 2005 13:02:29 GMT, (Blanche Cohen)
wrote:

>industrial.simplegreen.com/ind_prod_ext_mor.php

Looks like good stuff. Sounds like another use for potato juice. That
stuff will clean off almost anything.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[George Patterson]

Roger wrote:
>
> Sounds like another use for potato juice. That
> stuff will clean off almost anything.

Never heard of this before. What do you do, squeeze a potato and use the liquid
for cleaning?

George Patterson
He who would distinguish what is true from what is false must have an
adequate understanding of truth and falsehood.

[Bob Fry]

"RST Engineering" > writes:

> So where do you get the stuff? I've not yet seen it on my favorite Q-Club
> shelves. Somebody also said that it is pricey. What is the magnitude of
> "pricey".

http://www.mentormall.cc/getItems.cfm?currVendorID=434
says $18.67 + S&H for 1 gallon. Pretty reasonable compared to what
I've been using, Tomar TR-1000. Though the latter is so effective
it's worth the price. If ESG comes fairly close in effectiveness to
TR-1000 I'll switch. I sent an email to Aviation Consumer about ESG;
they hadn't heard of it, so perhaps they'll do a review. They
reviewed TR-1000 and recommended it.

[Mike Rapoport]

"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> "RST Engineering" > writes:
>
>> So where do you get the stuff? I've not yet seen it on my favorite
>> Q-Club
>> shelves. Somebody also said that it is pricey. What is the magnitude of
>> "pricey".
>
> http://www.mentormall.cc/getItems.cfm?currVendorID=434
> says $18.67 + S&H for 1 gallon. Pretty reasonable compared to what
> I've been using, Tomar TR-1000. Though the latter is so effective
> it's worth the price. If ESG comes fairly close in effectiveness to
> TR-1000 I'll switch. I sent an email to Aviation Consumer about ESG;
> they hadn't heard of it, so perhaps they'll do a review. They
> reviewed TR-1000 and recommended it.

In what way is TR-1000 so effective? I find that 95% of the mess on the
airplane comes right off but that stubborn black aluminium oxide from hinges
is a PITA. The carbon from the engine exhaust on the tail is pretty bad
too.

Mike
MU-2

[Bob Fry]

"Mike Rapoport" > writes:

> In what way is TR-1000 so effective? I find that 95% of the mess on the
> airplane comes right off but that stubborn black aluminium oxide from hinges
> is a PITA. The carbon from the engine exhaust on the tail is pretty bad
> too.

All that comes right off when you use it full strength or maybe 1:1
diluted with water.


Aviation Consumer
Volume 28, Number 10, October 1998

[. . .]

But wait. There's a better product yet. Reader Roger McCall of
Raleigh, North Carolina did his own tests on belly degreasers. McCall
sent me 8 ounces of some pretty amazing stuff; TR-1000. TR-1000 is
made by Tomar Industries in Raleigh. According to Tom Scoggins, owner
and founder of Tomar, TR-1000 is biodegradable and environmentally
safe.

I discovered that it's 95 percent as effective as Zep Teen and can be
used to clean anything on your aircraft, including the windows. Use it
full strength to spot treat the really bad grease deposits, dilute it
1:1 with water for normal degreasing and about 8:1 for giving the
airplane a complete washing.

The penetrating capabilities of this product work as well on hardened
globs of grease as on rock hard bugs on the leading edge of the
wing. TR-1000 is Ph-balanced for use on aluminum and will leave
Plexiglas sparkling clean.

Tomar currently sells TR-1000 in gallon containers for $8.95 plus
shipping and handling. Quart size bottles with spray nozzles will be
available by press time. They'll sell for $6.95, plus shipping and
handling. You can contact Tomar Industries at 919-828-0859.

[. . .]

But before you tackle the job again, order some TR-1000. It's the
overall best choice and worth the trouble to obtain . Follow all the
safety precautions listed here and on the individual products and not
only will you have a better looking belly, but you'll be around to
enjoy it.

[Roger]

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:31:24 GMT, George Patterson
> wrote:

>
>
>Roger wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like another use for potato juice. That
>> stuff will clean off almost anything.
>
>Never heard of this before. What do you do, squeeze a potato and use the liquid
>for cleaning?

I think it'd take one whale of a grip to squeeze the juice out of a
potato.<:-)) But if you've been practicing?

You just cut thin slices and rub on. It'll remove ink and grease from
hands and clothing. Try a blender?

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>George Patterson
> He who would distinguish what is true from what is false must have an
> adequate understanding of truth and falsehood.