Crunch Alert...

[BobW]

From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).

Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.

Let's hope the injury data is accurate...

<Begin cut-n-paste...>

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

<End cut-n-paste...>

[Discus 44]

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Substantial
>
> LOCATION
> City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> <End cut-n-paste...>



On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Substantial
>
> LOCATION
> City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> <End cut-n-paste...>



On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Substantial
>
> LOCATION
> City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> <End cut-n-paste...>



On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Substantial
>
> LOCATION
> City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> <End cut-n-paste...>



On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Substantial
>
> LOCATION
> City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> <End cut-n-paste...>

It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. No injuries except the glider of course.

[T[_2_]]

On Mar 13, 11:36*am, Discus 44 > wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
>
> It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. *No injuries except the glider of course.

So if it is a student, and crew of 2, then why did the CFI-G allow
this to happen?

Yes, I instruct in Grob 103s.

T

[Discus 44]

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:42:05 PM UTC-7, T wrote:
> On Mar 13, 11:36*am, Discus 44 > wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. *No injuries except the glider of course.
>
> So if it is a student, and crew of 2, then why did the CFI-G allow
> this to happen?
>
> Yes, I instruct in Grob 103s.
>
> T

Sorry, It may not have been a student, my information came second hand. More likely a private pilot. We will have to wait until the detailed report is published.