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#1
March 13th 12, 06:04 PM
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Crunch Alert...
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: End cut-n-paste... 
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#2
March 13th 12, 06:36 PM
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Crunch Alert...
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: End cut-n-paste... It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. No injuries except the glider of course.
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#3
March 14th 12, 12:42 AM
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Crunch Alert...
On Mar 13, 11:36*am, Discus 44 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. *No injuries except the glider of course. So if it is a student, and crew of 2, then why did the CFI-G allow this to happen? Yes, I instruct in Grob 103s. T
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#4
March 14th 12, 03:00 PM
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Crunch Alert...
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:42:05 PM UTC-7, T wrote:
On Mar 13, 11:36*am, Discus 44 wrote: On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote: From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date). Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation. Let's hope the injury data is accurate... Begin cut-n-paste... IDENTIFICATION * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800 * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N * *Damage: Substantial LOCATION * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US DESCRIPTION * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0 * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk: End cut-n-paste... It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. *No injuries except the glider of course. So if it is a student, and crew of 2, then why did the CFI-G allow this to happen? Yes, I instruct in Grob 103s. T Sorry, It may not have been a student, my information came second hand. More likely a private pilot. We will have to wait until the detailed report is published.
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