thank you, AOPA! (new rules issue)

[Cub Driver]

The Sport Pilot rules process brought with it a change to the
Recreational Pilot rules. Now the Rec Pilot can get a sign-off for
operating in ATC airspace and landing at B, C, and D airspace airports
without being specifically trained for each one.

However, my CFI didn't have and couldn't get the specifics for this
training and a sample endorsement, for the good reason that the FAA
hasn't posted any such information. He suggested I contact AOPA, which
I did at about ten a.m. yesterday.

I promptly got an email back saying that a Rec Pilot couldn't get a
blanket endorsement. I replied that the rules had just been changed.
After a lapse of about three hours, I got another email saying that,
so they had!, and suggesting language for the endorsement. So on
Monday at 9 a.m. I got for a bit of ground school and a sign-off.

This alone has justified my belonging to AOPA for the past six years.
A great organization!


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
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[Ace Pilot]

Hold on. You educate AOPA on what the new reg is and they get credit
for being a great organization? How do I get you to be one of my
customers? ;-)

[I know - AOPA provided the language for the endorsement. I just
couldn't resist the little jab.]

[zatatime]

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 05:42:03 -0400, Cub Driver
> wrote:

>So on
>Monday at 9 a.m. I got for a bit of ground school and a sign-off.


You aren't required to get dual in one of these airspace types?

z

[Cub Driver]

On 3 Sep 2004 09:25:42 -0700, (Ace
Pilot) wrote:

> AOPA provided the language for the endorsement.

Without the language, I wouldn't have gotten the endorsement.

Not to mention the fact that the language provided the specific
references.

In short: I got a fast, wrong answer. I pointed out that it was wrong.
Then I got the sample endorsement, all in the same working day. Try
that with the FAA!

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com

[Cub Driver]

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:36:06 GMT, zatatime
> wrote:

>You aren't required to get dual in one of these airspace types?

I've had ten hours in controlled airspace with another instructor,
doing stalls/aerobatics at Chandler AZ.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com

[zatatime]

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 05:52:43 -0400, Cub Driver
> wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:36:06 GMT, zatatime
> wrote:
>
>>You aren't required to get dual in one of these airspace types?
>
>I've had ten hours in controlled airspace with another instructor,
>doing stalls/aerobatics at Chandler AZ.
>
>all the best -- Dan Ford
>email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
>The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
>Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com

Thanks. It just didn't make sense to me that this would be a "ground
instruction" endorsement.

Appreciate the reply.

z

[Hilton]

Cub Driver wrote:
> I promptly got an email back saying that a Rec Pilot couldn't get a
> blanket endorsement. I replied that the rules had just been changed.
> After a lapse of about three hours, I got another email saying that,
> so they had!, and suggesting language for the endorsement.

What makes you think that some 'suggested' text by some non-FAA organization
has any legality whatsoever?

Hilton

[NW_PILOT]

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
> On 3 Sep 2004 09:25:42 -0700, (Ace
> Pilot) wrote:
>
> > AOPA provided the language for the endorsement.
>
> Without the language, I wouldn't have gotten the endorsement.
>
> Not to mention the fact that the language provided the specific
> references.

"Kinda useless post with out providing the language they provided you" What
was it?

>
> In short: I got a fast, wrong answer. I pointed out that it was wrong.
> Then I got the sample endorsement, all in the same working day. Try
> that with the FAA!
>
> all the best -- Dan Ford
> email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
> The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
> Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com