thank you, AOPA! (new rules issue)

The Sport Pilot rules process brought with it a change to the
Recreational Pilot rules. Now the Rec Pilot can get a sign-off for
operating in ATC airspace and landing at B, C, and D airspace airports
without being specifically trained for each one.

However, my CFI didn't have and couldn't get the specifics for this
training and a sample endorsement, for the good reason that the FAA
hasn't posted any such information. He suggested I contact AOPA, which
I did at about ten a.m. yesterday.

I promptly got an email back saying that a Rec Pilot couldn't get a
blanket endorsement. I replied that the rules had just been changed.
After a lapse of about three hours, I got another email saying that,
so they had!, and suggesting language for the endorsement. So on
Monday at 9 a.m. I got for a bit of ground school and a sign-off.

This alone has justified my belonging to AOPA for the past six years.
A great organization!


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

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Hold on. You educate AOPA on what the new reg is and they get credit
for being a great organization? How do I get you to be one of my
customers? ;-)

[I know - AOPA provided the language for the endorsement. I just
couldn't resist the little jab.]

On 3 Sep 2004 09:25:42 -0700, (Ace
Pilot) wrote:

AOPA provided the language for the endorsement.

Without the language, I wouldn't have gotten the endorsement.

Not to mention the fact that the language provided the specific
references.

In short: I got a fast, wrong answer. I pointed out that it was wrong.
Then I got the sample endorsement, all in the same working day. Try
that with the FAA!

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...
On 3 Sep 2004 09:25:42 -0700, (Ace
Pilot) wrote:

AOPA provided the language for the endorsement.

Without the language, I wouldn't have gotten the endorsement.

Not to mention the fact that the language provided the specific
references.

"Kinda useless post with out providing the language they provided you" What
was it?


In short: I got a fast, wrong answer. I pointed out that it was wrong.
Then I got the sample endorsement, all in the same working day. Try
that with the FAA!

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 05:42:03 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote:

So on
Monday at 9 a.m. I got for a bit of ground school and a sign-off.


You aren't required to get dual in one of these airspace types?

z

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:36:06 GMT, zatatime
wrote:

You aren't required to get dual in one of these airspace types?

I've had ten hours in controlled airspace with another instructor,
doing stalls/aerobatics at Chandler AZ.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 05:52:43 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:36:06 GMT, zatatime
wrote:

You aren't required to get dual in one of these airspace types?

I've had ten hours in controlled airspace with another instructor,
doing stalls/aerobatics at Chandler AZ.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com

Thanks. It just didn't make sense to me that this would be a "ground
instruction" endorsement.

Appreciate the reply.

z

Cub Driver wrote:
I promptly got an email back saying that a Rec Pilot couldn't get a
blanket endorsement. I replied that the rules had just been changed.
After a lapse of about three hours, I got another email saying that,
so they had!, and suggesting language for the endorsement.

What makes you think that some 'suggested' text by some non-FAA organization
has any legality whatsoever?

Hilton