TFR Penalty

[Magellan]

Does anyone know what the penalty is for busting a Presidential TFR?
I've talked with a controller and AOPA and their opinions are pretty
varied...Don't ask why I want to know this, it's embarassing!

[Dave Stadt]

The ones I have known got off with nothing more than a phone call.

"Magellan" > wrote in message
m...
> Does anyone know what the penalty is for busting a Presidential TFR?
> I've talked with a controller and AOPA and their opinions are pretty
> varied...Don't ask why I want to know this, it's embarassing!

[Jay Honeck]

It's been funny, listening to ATC in the hotel lobby today, with the
President just to the North of us in Cedar Rapids. We are just outside of
the TFR, but not by much -- and EVERYONE is paranoid.

Good pilots are repeatedly asking CID if they are clear of the TFR area. As
always, our excellent ATC staff is helpful and friendly -- even with Air
Force One on the ramp.

Thus far, I've only heard one doofus. A biz jet came blasting into the
area, inbound for landing, and casually asked CID if the airport was open
for business. I didn't catch the answer, dang it, but I'll bet it was good.

Honestly, who would fly a biz jet, VFR (I'm guessing), without getting a
briefing?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[David Herman]

I don't believe there's any uniform penalty - it seems to vary from one
incident to another.

Let's hope you catch them on a day when they're in a good mood.


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David Herman
N6170T 1965 Cessna 150E
Boeing Field (BFI), Seattle, WA
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"Magellan" > wrote in message
m...
> Does anyone know what the penalty is for busting a Presidential TFR?
> I've talked with a controller and AOPA and their opinions are pretty
> varied...Don't ask why I want to know this, it's embarassing!

[Andrew Gideon]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Honestly, who would fly a biz jet, VFR (I'm guessing), without getting a
> briefing?

Air Force Two?

- Andrew

[Peter Gottlieb]

"David Herman" > wrote in message
news:1094250486.703425@yasure...
>I don't believe there's any uniform penalty - it seems to vary from one
> incident to another.
>
> Let's hope you catch them on a day when they're in a good mood.
>

I heard one conversation on guard over Maine where the AF was telling a
plane "small aircraft traveling heading 120 near xxx leave the area
immediately and call the FAA, you have just entered a presidental flight
restricted area"

I wonder if they called? The station identified itself as Air Force, but
didn't seem much interested in tracking the intruder, just getting them out
of the area.

[zatatime]

On 3 Sep 2004 13:53:28 -0700, (Magellan) wrote:

>Does anyone know what the penalty is for busting a Presidential TFR?
>I've talked with a controller and AOPA and their opinions are pretty
>varied...Don't ask why I want to know this, it's embarassing!


File a NASA form within 10 days of busting it and don't make anymore
mistakes for three years.

Then you don't need to worry about it.

z

[Joe Morris]

Andrew Gideon > writes:

>Jay Honeck wrote:

>> Honestly, who would fly a biz jet, VFR (I'm guessing), without getting a
>> briefing?

>Air Force Two?

Safe Flight One?

(Don't laugh -- a few years ago at a safety seminar in the DC area
one of the local inspectors noted that he had recently given remedial
training to a pilot who had busted the Dulles TCA. The pilot's resume
included a period as Administrator of the FAA, although he had left
the position before the incident.)

Joe Morris

[Dave S]

A local club pilot is enduring a 90 day suspension of his certificate
for busting a pres TFR.

Dave

Magellan wrote:
> Does anyone know what the penalty is for busting a Presidential TFR?
> I've talked with a controller and AOPA and their opinions are pretty
> varied...Don't ask why I want to know this, it's embarassing!

[Gary Drescher]

"zatatime" > wrote in message
...
>
> File a NASA form within 10 days of busting it and don't make anymore
> mistakes for three years.

Don't make any more mistakes for five years. (AC 00-46D,
http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/immunity_nf.htm).

--Gary