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March 17th 17, 01:20 PM
Any used Winter Vario's out there?
Need the 3 1/8" (80 mm) vario for a Club Grob 103.

Contact: Tim Hanke
Adirondack Soaring


518-693-6849

March 17th 17, 03:08 PM
I have a 80mm Sage that is in good working order installed in a flying glider. I will sell for $200 and I'll pay the US shipping.
Johnsinclair210(at)yahoo.com

March 18th 17, 09:41 PM
All set. We got a couple.

March 18th 17, 09:41 PM
Thanks John but we are allset !

March 22nd 17, 01:08 AM
The previous vario I was looking at was ft/ min not knots. Anyone have an 80 mm (3 1/8") Winter Vario in Knots available ?

Contact: Tim Hanke
E-mail:
Ph: 518-693-6849

Scott Williams
March 22nd 17, 01:28 AM
On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 8:08:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> The previous vario I was looking at was ft/ min not knots. Anyone have an 80 mm (3 1/8") Winter Vario in Knots available ?
>
> Contact: Tim Hanke
> E-mail:
> Ph: 518-693-6849

So, I understand a knot is equal to 101.2 feet per minute, is the requirement due to regulations or a non compromising desire for 'the right scale?
I completely understand either, Just wondering.
Scott.

Bruce Hoult
March 22nd 17, 08:58 AM
On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 4:28:02 AM UTC+3, Scott Williams wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 8:08:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > The previous vario I was looking at was ft/ min not knots. Anyone have an 80 mm (3 1/8") Winter Vario in Knots available ?
> >
> > Contact: Tim Hanke
> > E-mail:
> > Ph: 518-693-6849
>
> So, I understand a knot is equal to 101.2 feet per minute, is the requirement due to regulations or a non compromising desire for 'the right scale?
> I completely understand either, Just wondering.

Geez .. I don't care as long as they have five UP markings and five DOWN markings and I know which is which.

It would not surprise me to learn that the manufacturer writes 1,2,3,4,5 or 2,4,6,8,10 on them without doing anything to change the calibration. I'm pretty sure the positions of the marks is the same. (some of the latter have small halfway marks too, but many don't, even from Winter themselves)

0.97/2 : 1.00 : 1.01 ... who can feel the difference?

March 22nd 17, 11:19 AM
Scott,

Normally not a big deal but the flight manual for a Grob Twin clearly asks for a vario in knots.

Tim


On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 9:28:02 PM UTC-4, Scott Williams wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 8:08:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > The previous vario I was looking at was ft/ min not knots. Anyone have an 80 mm (3 1/8") Winter Vario in Knots available ?
> >
> > Contact: Tim Hanke
> > E-mail:
> > Ph: 518-693-6849
>
> So, I understand a knot is equal to 101.2 feet per minute, is the requirement due to regulations or a non compromising desire for 'the right scale?
> I completely understand either, Just wondering.
> Scott.

Martin Gregorie[_5_]
March 22nd 17, 11:26 AM
On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:28:00 -0700, Scott Williams wrote:

> So, I understand a knot is equal to 101.2 feet per minute, is the
> requirement due to regulations or a non compromising desire for 'the
> right scale?
> I completely understand either, Just wondering.
>
I've always assumed that using knots for airspeed and ROC was done so
that you can calculate you glide ratio without doing any units
conversion. Once that's done, divide your height by 6000, multiply by
glide ratio and thats your max possible range in NM.

I don't think its that easy if any other units are used for airspeed or
ROC.

Of course, this isn't so important now everybody has GPS navigation
systems that do it for you and draw glide amoebas on the screen.


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Dan Marotta
March 22nd 17, 01:58 PM
Is the difference not something that your mechanic can sign off with a
change in the equipment list?

On 3/22/2017 5:19 AM, wrote:
> Scott,
>
> Normally not a big deal but the flight manual for a Grob Twin clearly asks for a vario in knots.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 9:28:02 PM UTC-4, Scott Williams wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 8:08:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>> The previous vario I was looking at was ft/ min not knots. Anyone have an 80 mm (3 1/8") Winter Vario in Knots available ?
>>>
>>> Contact: Tim Hanke
>>> E-mail:
>>> Ph: 518-693-6849
>> So, I understand a knot is equal to 101.2 feet per minute, is the requirement due to regulations or a non compromising desire for 'the right scale?
>> I completely understand either, Just wondering.
>> Scott.

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Dan, 5J

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