Marske Pioneer Cross Country [Archive]

mat Redsell

June 28th 04, 10:47 PM

< I did a 700K in my Ventus Mat
You can check it out at onlinecontest.org
Now quit spamming us
Al>

Am I the only one who finds Al's comments in very poor taste? Is there
anyone who encourage my participation on this list?

Al should be reminded that his use of liberty is not to squash those who
differ from his own conceited opinion. It does little to encourage anyone
who does anything different from himself.and shows readily that he has not
bothered to do any homework nor research his obviously prejudiced statement.
I ask those close to Al to remind him that the hatred he displays only shows
his complete ignorance of the potential for aerodynamic gain by Jim Marske's
planform.

It is this kind of statement that discourages those who may have found a
slightly differing path. There are times to disagree but doing it in this
manner shows a complete disregard for our efforts and is most discouraging
to those who dare to try something different.

It also shows how the gliding community has fallen over the years and
discourages anyone from being part of the gliding community. It was not that
long ago when everyone rejoiced at the diversity and was both excited and
encouaged by it. Now we have only one basic glider made in countries outside
the USA. (I do note the apparent success of the sparowhawk which at least is
one bright spark of hope.)

Where is the encouraging spirit? Has Al even considered the years of work
that have gone into the development that Jim Marske has done. Has he
bothered to realize that the Pioneer IID was from the same era as the 1-26
and has even the same basic dimensions and samee airfoil? How does he
explain the trememndous advantage the Pioneer has over the 1-26? and the
Pioneer is a wood glider!!! Has he even bothered to ask Dave Welles his
opinion of the Pioneer? Has he bothered to really investigate the Marske
Wing. Again he hasn't but continues to bully his way.

If he was a real person worthy of any merit he would publish his full name
attached to his poor taste quips.

Al, I like criticism but please take a little time and it based on good
research and genuine interest not just opinionated hatred!

Please someone put a full name to Al so I can list his comments in my
History of the Marske flying wing under the Flying wing misconceptions and
prejudice chapter, at least I have a chance to have the last chuckle.

-mat

June 28th 04, 11:02 PM

AMAZING....

You really are Mat.

You turn a poke at you into a full advert about Maske Flying wings.

Now quit spamming us

Al
yes the Al.
www.gliderforum.com for more info.
Dig deep you might even find my last name!!

"mat Redsell" > wrote in message
...
> < I did a 700K in my Ventus Mat
> You can check it out at onlinecontest.org
> Now quit spamming us
> Al>
>
> Am I the only one who finds Al's comments in very poor taste? Is there
> anyone who encourage my participation on this list?
>
> Al should be reminded that his use of liberty is not to squash those who
> differ from his own conceited opinion. It does little to encourage anyone
> who does anything different from himself.and shows readily that he has
not
> bothered to do any homework nor research his obviously prejudiced
statement.
> I ask those close to Al to remind him that the hatred he displays only
shows
> his complete ignorance of the potential for aerodynamic gain by Jim
Marske's
> planform.
>
> It is this kind of statement that discourages those who may have found a
> slightly differing path. There are times to disagree but doing it in this
> manner shows a complete disregard for our efforts and is most discouraging
> to those who dare to try something different.
>
> It also shows how the gliding community has fallen over the years and
> discourages anyone from being part of the gliding community. It was not
that
> long ago when everyone rejoiced at the diversity and was both excited and
> encouaged by it. Now we have only one basic glider made in countries
outside
> the USA. (I do note the apparent success of the sparowhawk which at least
is
> one bright spark of hope.)
>
> Where is the encouraging spirit? Has Al even considered the years of work
> that have gone into the development that Jim Marske has done. Has he
> bothered to realize that the Pioneer IID was from the same era as the 1-26
> and has even the same basic dimensions and samee airfoil? How does he
> explain the trememndous advantage the Pioneer has over the 1-26? and the
> Pioneer is a wood glider!!! Has he even bothered to ask Dave Welles his
> opinion of the Pioneer? Has he bothered to really investigate the Marske
> Wing. Again he hasn't but continues to bully his way.
>
> If he was a real person worthy of any merit he would publish his full name
> attached to his poor taste quips.
>
> Al, I like criticism but please take a little time and it based on good
> research and genuine interest not just opinionated hatred!
>
> Please someone put a full name to Al so I can list his comments in my
> History of the Marske flying wing under the Flying wing misconceptions
and
> prejudice chapter, at least I have a chance to have the last chuckle.
>
> -mat
>
>

Vaughn

June 28th 04, 11:23 PM

"mat Redsell" > wrote in message
...
> Is there
> anyone who encourage my participation on this list?

Reasonable people will (and often do) disagree, but we have few enough
entrepreneurs and innovators in our sport. We can afford to give them a bit of
slack here at smd; particularly if they are discreet and available to share
their expertise here, rather than simply push their product and disappear until
next time.

I generally enjoy Mat's contributions.

Vaughn

June 29th 04, 12:13 AM

I find it in poor taste that in the WA fatality thread Mat even saw a way to
promote his "stall proof" flying wing.

Mat we all know about your pioneer and its an old design that was designed
to compete with the 1-26

TELL US SOMETHING NEW.. DONT KEEP BANGING ON ABOUT THAT SAME PIONEER 2D YOU
DUSTED OFF 2 YEARS AGO!!

Al

"Vaughn" > wrote in message
...
>
> "mat Redsell" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Is there
> > anyone who encourage my participation on this list?
>
> Reasonable people will (and often do) disagree, but we have few
enough
> entrepreneurs and innovators in our sport. We can afford to give them a
bit of
> slack here at smd; particularly if they are discreet and available to
share
> their expertise here, rather than simply push their product and disappear
until
> next time.
>
> I generally enjoy Mat's contributions.
>
> Vaughn
>
>

Lennie the Lurker

June 29th 04, 03:37 AM

"mat Redsell" > wrote in message >...
>>
> Please someone put a full name to Al so I can list his comments in my
> History of the Marske flying wing under the Flying wing misconceptions and
> prejudice chapter, at least I have a chance to have the last chuckle.
>
Alastair MacDonald, lives in some kind of slum near Minden.

Gary Evans

June 29th 04, 03:56 AM

Now its complete, just like old times!

At 02:48 29 June 2004, Lennie The Lurker wrote:
>'mat Redsell' wrote in message news:...
>>>
>> Please someone put a full name to Al so I can list
>>his comments in my
>> History of the Marske flying wing under the Flying
>>wing misconceptions and
>> prejudice chapter, at least I have a chance to have
>>the last chuckle.
>>
>Alastair MacDonald, lives in some kind of slum near
>Minden.
>

Liam Finley

June 29th 04, 06:31 AM

"mat Redsell" > wrote in message >...
>> Where is the encouraging spirit? Has Al even considered the years
of work
> that have gone into the development that Jim Marske has done. Has he
> bothered to realize that the Pioneer IID was from the same era as the 1-26
> and has even the same basic dimensions and samee airfoil? How does he
> explain the trememndous advantage the Pioneer has over the 1-26? and the

That is impressive. Hey, have you thought of making a flying wing
version of the PW-5 airfoil? If flying wings are as efficient as you
say, it just might perform as well as a Russia!

June 29th 04, 07:26 AM

Bring back the old RAS I say...
Lets have some good flame wars....

I was getting bored reading all the group patting on backs and all that
being nice that was going on in here!!!

Amazing one post and Lennie the Looney and Liam "I cant fly but I can type"
Finley pipe in, I am getting a case of deja vu here.

Oh and Lennie its Macdonald.. ok no cap D, I am not Irish...but then again
if you knew anything other than metal working you would know that.

Al
Incline Village NV..... some "slum" 40mins NW of Minden.

"Gary Evans" > wrote in message
...
> Now its complete, just like old times!
>
> At 02:48 29 June 2004, Lennie The Lurker wrote:
> >'mat Redsell' wrote in message news:...
> >>>
> >> Please someone put a full name to Al so I can list
> >>his comments in my
> >> History of the Marske flying wing under the Flying
> >>wing misconceptions and
> >> prejudice chapter, at least I have a chance to have
> >>the last chuckle.
> >>
> >Alastair MacDonald, lives in some kind of slum near
> >Minden.
> >
>
>
>

Tim Maw

June 29th 04, 09:16 AM

Al,

just before you left RAS to moderate your own forum,
many of your posts were merely adverts for what was
happening over on www.gliderforum.com

Please therefore explain your hypocrisy when you accuse
Matt of spamming.....

Regards,

Tim

At 06:42 29 June 2004, Al wrote:
>Bring back the old RAS I say...
>Lets have some good flame wars....
>
>I was getting bored reading all the group patting on
>backs and all that
>being nice that was going on in here!!!
>
>Amazing one post and Lennie the Looney and Liam 'I
>cant fly but I can type'
>Finley pipe in, I am getting a case of deja vu here.
>
>Oh and Lennie its Macdonald.. ok no cap D, I am not
>Irish...but then again
>if you knew anything other than metal working you would
>know that.
>
>Al
>Incline Village NV..... some 'slum' 40mins NW of Minden.
>
>
>
>
>'Gary Evans' wrote in message
...
>> Now its complete, just like old times!
>>
>> At 02:48 29 June 2004, Lennie The Lurker wrote:
>> >'mat Redsell' wrote in message news:...
>> >>>
>> >> Please someone put a full name to Al so I can list
>> >>his comments in my
>> >> History of the Marske flying wing under the Flying
>> >>wing misconceptions and
>> >> prejudice chapter, at least I have a chance to have
>> >>the last chuckle.
>> >>
>> >Alastair MacDonald, lives in some kind of slum near
>> >Minden.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

[email protected]

June 29th 04, 07:27 PM

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:26:58 -0700, "Al" > wrote:

>Bring back the old RAS I say...
>Lets have some good flame wars....
>
Flame away, alice. I'm still deciding how much to charge for the
seven Schweizer skids I sent to the gliderport last week. Whether I
let them fall through the cracks, or charge $50 each means nothing to
me, Uncle Sam gets it all anyhow. Thought about swapping for an hours
dual in the 2-33, but the more I think about it, bad idea. Oh, well,
three or four more days to decide.
Lennie the Lurker

Liam Finley

June 29th 04, 09:16 PM

Indeed, what would RAS be without:

1. a travelling snake oil/flying wing salesman.
2. a racist metal grinder/Schweizer afficianado.
3. a Minden Zero who needs to buy a new glider every 6 months to
impress his friends.

It looks like we hit the Trifecta!

Lennie the Lurker

June 30th 04, 07:43 AM

(Liam Finley) wrote in message >...
> Indeed, what would RAS be without:
>
> 1. a travelling snake oil/flying wing salesman.

And the list of your accomplishments in the arena of design and
testing are?

> 2. a racist metal grinder/Schweizer afficianado.

Sorry, I only grind when I need extreme precision, nothing in a glider
counts there.

not racist either, just can't stand egotistical krauts. My granfather
may have been born in Bremen, but he had the good sense to get the
hell out of krautland. (He didn't allow german used in his house
either, "Ve are Americans now, Ve Vill speak English." Fast way to
get a knot on your head was to use german in his house.) Point of
pride in our family, Gramps deserted from the Kaisers guard.

But I finally got to see the grob 103SL fly two weeks ago. It's rare
that it's not in the hangar being worked on. Ground hog is the best
description. 2000 feet of runway to get a foot high?

June 30th 04, 05:06 PM

Keep taking the pet meds Dick..

Al
"Lennie the Lurker" > wrote in message
om...
> (Liam Finley) wrote in message
>...
> > Indeed, what would RAS be without:
> >
> > 1. a travelling snake oil/flying wing salesman.
>
> And the list of your accomplishments in the arena of design and
> testing are?
>
> > 2. a racist metal grinder/Schweizer afficianado.
>
> Sorry, I only grind when I need extreme precision, nothing in a glider
> counts there.
>
> not racist either, just can't stand egotistical krauts. My granfather
> may have been born in Bremen, but he had the good sense to get the
> hell out of krautland. (He didn't allow german used in his house
> either, "Ve are Americans now, Ve Vill speak English." Fast way to
> get a knot on your head was to use german in his house.) Point of
> pride in our family, Gramps deserted from the Kaisers guard.
>
> But I finally got to see the grob 103SL fly two weeks ago. It's rare
> that it's not in the hangar being worked on. Ground hog is the best
> description. 2000 feet of runway to get a foot high?

June 30th 04, 05:17 PM

Difference is I dont sell anything.

www.gliderforum.com is free, non profit. a service to soaring and a lot
better than NNTP news.

Mat on the other hand is trying to sell flying wing kits for commercial
gain.

There is your difference!!

Al
www.gliderforum.com
a Lennie free place to chat about soaring.

"Tim Maw" > wrote in message
...
> Al,
>
> just before you left RAS to moderate your own forum,
> many of your posts were merely adverts for what was
> happening over on www.gliderforum.com
>
> Please therefore explain your hypocrisy when you accuse
> Matt of spamming.....
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim
>
> At 06:42 29 June 2004, Al wrote:
> >Bring back the old RAS I say...
> >Lets have some good flame wars....
> >
> >I was getting bored reading all the group patting on
> >backs and all that
> >being nice that was going on in here!!!
> >
> >Amazing one post and Lennie the Looney and Liam 'I
> >cant fly but I can type'
> >Finley pipe in, I am getting a case of deja vu here.
> >
> >Oh and Lennie its Macdonald.. ok no cap D, I am not
> >Irish...but then again
> >if you knew anything other than metal working you would
> >know that.
> >
> >Al
> >Incline Village NV..... some 'slum' 40mins NW of Minden.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >'Gary Evans' wrote in message
> ...
> >> Now its complete, just like old times!
> >>
> >> At 02:48 29 June 2004, Lennie The Lurker wrote:
> >> >'mat Redsell' wrote in message news:...
> >> >>>
> >> >> Please someone put a full name to Al so I can list
> >> >>his comments in my
> >> >> History of the Marske flying wing under the Flying
> >> >>wing misconceptions and
> >> >> prejudice chapter, at least I have a chance to have
> >> >>the last chuckle.
> >> >>
> >> >Alastair MacDonald, lives in some kind of slum near
> >> >Minden.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[email protected]

June 30th 04, 10:06 PM

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:17:24 -0700, "Al" > wrote:

>www.gliderforum.used.condom
>a Lennie free place to chat about soaring.
>
alice is so proud of that, but he forgets, dynamic IP is the thing
now. Not to worry, there's nothing on any of his trashy sites that
I'd ever want to look at anyhow. LIke alice himself, they're just a
waste.

Lennie the Lurker

Tom Seim

July 1st 04, 05:16 AM

(Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message >...
> (Liam Finley) wrote in message >...
> > Indeed, what would RAS be without:
> >
> > 1. a travelling snake oil/flying wing salesman.
>
> And the list of your accomplishments in the arena of design and
> testing are?
>
> > 2. a racist metal grinder/Schweizer afficianado.
>
> Sorry, I only grind when I need extreme precision, nothing in a glider
> counts there.
>
> not racist either, just can't stand egotistical krauts. My granfather
> may have been born in Bremen, but he had the good sense to get the
> hell out of krautland. (He didn't allow german used in his house
> either, "Ve are Americans now, Ve Vill speak English." Fast way to
> get a knot on your head was to use german in his house.) Point of
> pride in our family, Gramps deserted from the Kaisers guard.
>
> But I finally got to see the grob 103SL fly two weeks ago. It's rare
> that it's not in the hangar being worked on. Ground hog is the best
> description. 2000 feet of runway to get a foot high?

Definition of "racist":

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or
ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Tim Maw

July 1st 04, 10:02 AM

Al,

you don't have to be selling anything to send spam.
Spam being 'unsolicited mail to promote products or
services'.

Matt is promoting a product, you are promoting a service....
What/ where is the difference?!?

At 16:30 30 June 2004, Al wrote:
>Difference is I dont sell anything.
>
>www.gliderforum.com is free, non profit. a service
>to soaring and a lot
>better than NNTP news.
>
>Mat on the other hand is trying to sell flying wing
>kits for commercial
>gain.
>
>There is your difference!!
>
>Al
>www.gliderforum.com
>a Lennie free place to chat about soaring.
>
>
>
>
>'Tim Maw' wrote in message
...
>> Al,
>>
>> just before you left RAS to moderate your own forum,
>> many of your posts were merely adverts for what was
>> happening over on www.gliderforum.com
>>
>> Please therefore explain your hypocrisy when you accuse
>> Matt of spamming.....
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> At 06:42 29 June 2004, Al wrote:
>> >Bring back the old RAS I say...
>> >Lets have some good flame wars....
>> >
>> >I was getting bored reading all the group patting
>>>on
>> >backs and all that
>> >being nice that was going on in here!!!
>> >
>> >Amazing one post and Lennie the Looney and Liam 'I
>> >cant fly but I can type'
>> >Finley pipe in, I am getting a case of deja vu here.
>> >
>> >Oh and Lennie its Macdonald.. ok no cap D, I am not
>> >Irish...but then again
>> >if you knew anything other than metal working you
>>>would
>> >know that.
>> >
>> >Al
>> >Incline Village NV..... some 'slum' 40mins NW of Minden.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >'Gary Evans' wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Now its complete, just like old times!
>> >>
>> >> At 02:48 29 June 2004, Lennie The Lurker wrote:
>> >> >'mat Redsell' wrote in message news:...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> Please someone put a full name to Al so I can
>>>>>>list
>> >> >>his comments in my
>> >> >> History of the Marske flying wing under the Flying
>> >> >>wing misconceptions and
>> >> >> prejudice chapter, at least I have a chance to
>>>>>>have
>> >> >>the last chuckle.
>> >> >>
>> >> >Alastair MacDonald, lives in some kind of slum near
>> >> >Minden.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Lennie the Lurker

July 1st 04, 04:18 PM

(Tom Seim) wrote in message >...
>
> Definition of "racist":
>
Were I to give you a quarter, would you be so kind as to go down the
hall to the nearest pay phone, dial the chaplain, and see if he gives
a ****?

Lennie the Lurker

July 1st 04, 04:23 PM

"Al" > wrote in message >...
> Keep taking the pet meds Dick..
>
Sorry, but my grandmother was Irish, I don't have scottish needs for
brain poisons. But I think you're overdue for your checkup with the
herpetologist.

Owain Walters

July 1st 04, 06:03 PM

Hey Big Len,

I am confused. I thought you gave up gliding because
the cost was going to cripple you but here you are
throwing your money away!

Perhaps if you stopped giving money to people to phone
the Chaplain then you could afford a tow. You daft
racist!

Owain

At 15:30 01 July 2004, Lennie The Lurker wrote:
(Tom Seim) wrote in message news:...
>>
>> Definition of 'racist':
>>
>Were I to give you a quarter, would you be so kind
>as to go down the
>hall to the nearest pay phone, dial the chaplain, and
>see if he gives
>a ****?
>

Eric Greenwell

July 1st 04, 09:19 PM

In article >,
says...
>Al,
>
>you don't have to be selling anything to send spam.
> Spam being 'unsolicited mail to promote products or
>services'.
>
>Matt is promoting a product, you are promoting a service....
> What/ where is the difference?!?
>
>
>At 16:30 30 June 2004, Al wrote:
>>Difference is I dont sell anything.
>>
>>www.gliderforum.com is free, non profit. a service
>>to soaring and a lot
>>better than NNTP news.
>>
>>Mat on the other hand is trying to sell flying wing
>>kits for commercial
>>gain.
>>
>>There is your difference!!

It seems a stretch to suggest Mat is selling flying wing kits for
"commercial gain"! It looks to me, after visiting Jim Marske and Mat
Redsell at their shop, that they are promoting an idea, and any money
made is quite incidental, more like a hobby. I don't mind Mat attempts
to promote flying wings, even if they are clumsy at times.

It seems a stretch to suggest Al is "spamming" the group by announcing
his gliderforum. I usually consider spam to be UCE (usolicited
commercial email), which doesn't apply to Al.

--
Change "netto" to "net" to reply directly
Eric Greenwell USA

[email protected]

July 1st 04, 10:52 PM

On 1 Jul 2004 17:03:20 GMT, Owain Walters
> wrote:

>Hey Big Len,
>
>I am confused. I thought you gave up gliding because
>the cost was going to cripple you but here you are
>throwing your money away!
>
>Perhaps if you stopped giving money to people to phone
>the Chaplain then you could afford a tow. You daft
>racist!
>
IF I were still flying, I couldn't afford the quarter, and many, far
too many, other things. Still trying to figure out how to get paid for
the skids I made without ending up losing more to the taxman than I
bring in. Safest way is to let them fall through the cracks, but if
I'm going to work for nothing, working doesn't make any sense.

OR are you telling me you know where I can get a tow for a quarter?
Lennie the Lurker

m pautz

July 2nd 04, 12:16 AM

Al wrote:
> I did a 700K in my Ventus Mat
> You can check it out at onlinecontest.org
>
> Now quit spamming us
>
> Al
>
>
> "mat Redsell" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>The Marske PioneerIId has been doing some flight testing and cross
>
> country
>
>>lately. See the Marske site for details.
>>-mat
>>--
>>Marske Flying Wings
>>http://www.continuo.com/marske
>>
>>
>
>
>

A monarch isn't a ventus, but a J3 Cub isn't a Mooney either.
To be honest, the monarch looks like an incredibly fun glider to fly.
We don't tell 1-26 or K-6 drivers to go away simply because they can't
compete with the glass boys; Oh wait a minute, Didn't Dave Stevenson
just come in third place with a K6????

Maybe a Marske can't get the xcountry range of a Ventus, but I was
thrilled beyond belief when I made my first 12 mile fligh in a hang
glider and made it back to the LZ.

If I had time, I would love to have a J3, a Monarch, a Grumman Tiger, a
Hang glider, and a K6E in addition to my LS3. Might as throw in a BMW
motorcyle while I'm at it.

I really wouldn't want to replace my LS3 with a Ventus. If I did, I
wouldn't have an excuse for doing so poorly. :-)

I am, and have always been, fascinated by the Horton Flying wing. Have
you seen the aspect ratio on their last glider? It's incredible. I am
curious as to the actual aspect ratio and L/D.

I am glad that Marske is venturing into that realm.

There is room enough in this group for all forms of soaring without a
bunch of bickering. I'm glad Mat is keeping us informed.

Marty Pautz

Tom Seim

July 2nd 04, 04:09 AM

(Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message >...
> (Tom Seim) wrote in message >...
> >
> > Definition of "racist":
> >
> Were I to give you a quarter, would you be so kind as to go down the
> hall to the nearest pay phone, dial the chaplain, and see if he gives
> a ****?

Well, I did that and he said, "Yes he is a racist".

Tom Seim

July 2nd 04, 04:09 AM

Owain Walters

July 2nd 04, 09:36 AM

>IF I were still flying, I couldn't afford the quarter,
>and many, far
>too many, other things. Still trying to figure out
>how to get paid for
>the skids I made without ending up losing more to the
>taxman than I
>bring in. Safest way is to let them fall through the
>cracks, but if
>I'm going to work for nothing, working doesn't make
>any sense.
>
>OR are you telling me you know where I can get a tow
>for a quarter?
>Lennie the Lurker

I was being sarcastic you stupid racist. I will tell
you what - if you bugger off and leave us alone. I
will buy you a tow. You can even keep your 25c.

I am constantly amazed at how angry you are with everything!
Gliding, taxes (try living in Europe if you want to
see real tax........I know, I know. You wouldnt live
here with us because we are blah blah blah), Al, RAS.....the
list goes on and on!

I have been trying to work out why you are so vitriolic;
Do you fancy Al? Were you no good at gliding? Do you
pay more tax than anyone else? Does it annoy you that
no-one here listens to you?

Owain

[email protected]

July 2nd 04, 04:58 PM

On 2 Jul 2004 08:36:37 GMT, Owain Walters
> wrote:

>
>I was being sarcastic you stupid racist.

Your sarcasm was not missed, and was expected. I expect nothing else
from the soaring people. Nor do I see anything racist about picking
up on als prejudice and throwing it back at him.

>Do you fancy Al?

I happen to prefer females of the human race.

>Were you no good at gliding?

I have no idea. Nor does it matter at all, just something else I
found that I can do, and moved on to something more productive.

>Do you
>pay more tax than anyone else?

No. I have reached the income limit, the point where for every dollar
I earn, a dollar is deducted from my social security. It should not
be hard, even for you, to understand that I would be working for
nothing, which makes no sense, or doing charity work for a profit
making organization, which makes less sense. (In fairness to the owner
of the operation, he would probably bend over backwards to try to help
me in this regard, but in the interest of legality, I would rather not
take any risks. It's not worth risking a tax evasion charge for a
couple of hundred bucks, or even risking an audit. As I am seen at
the gliderport rarely, I don't know who there is my friend, or who is
my enemy.)

>Does it annoy you that
>no-one here listens to you?

Not in the slightest. Normally, the only ones that have ever listened
to me,

are the people that sign the check.

If you can tell me anyone else that counts, I'd be interested in
hearing it.

Lennie the Lurker