Do you tip your A&P?

[Michael Horowitz]

I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike

[Denny]

Nope... His work is a business deal, not a waitress working for $2 an
hour plus tips... If he needs more money you will be charged
accordingly...
denny

[Carl Ellis]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:15:23 -0500, Michael Horowitz wrote:

> I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
> does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike

Not when I'm charged $60 per hour.

- Carl -

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
Michael Horowitz > wrote:

> I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
> does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike

not if he charges for the work performed.

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

[Peter R.]

Michael Horowitz > wrote:

> I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
> does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike

Not a tip per se, but I gave both of my mechanics money for a
end-of-year/Christmas gift.

In my case, the mechanics are not self-employed, but rather employees of a
large company. Thus, they are only paid a salary for the work they do on
my aircraft. The gift is my small way of thanking them for a year's worth
of honest business and good work.

--
Peter













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[Blanche]

I agree, they are being paid for knowledge and effort. I don't tip
my physician or lawyer or car mechanic because I'm being billed for
services rendered.

However, I do bring krispy kreme or brownies every once in a while.
Makes everyone in the shop happier. And they're more likely to
talk to me immediately when I come in with a problem. The actual
work may not be scheduled for a while but it's never "I'm busy
let's talk about this in 10 days..."

[RST Engineering]

Everybody should empty out their savings account and tip their A&P to the
max.

Jim
A&P, IA

[Matt Barrow]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> Everybody should empty out their savings account and tip their A&P to the
> max.
>

Or, as Blanche says, "Bring Krispy Kremes".

It just depends on your level of desperation.

[Juan Jimenez]

No, but when you find someone who goes out of his way to do his job
honestly, correctly and accurately on a regular basis, you should reward
that person's attitude with something extra to demonstrate you appreciate
the extra effort. In my case, I ocassionally show up at the shop at closing
time with a case of very cold beer and some good food, bring a toy for one
of the kids, etc. And this doesn't just apply to A&P's.

"Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
...
>I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
> does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike

[Bob Fry]

Michael Horowitz > writes:

> if your A&P
> does some work for you, do you tip him?

No, I pay him his shop rate.

[Jeff]

You know Peter what you say makes good sense. Back in the early 80's when I
got my A&P I was working for minimum wage for a small FBO in MO. He was
charging like $40 a hour for the work I did, but I was only getting $4 a
hour. I was young with very few expenses living at home with my parents
helping out on the farm. I was trying to build flight time so my boss did
help me out with a reduced airplane rental fee (basically paying for the
fuel plus a few bucks per hour). I was trying to gain experience. I always
did the best job that I could working on everyone's airplane and I think my
work was always appreciated.

Now that I am a little older (and wiser I think), I go out of my way to say
thank you to anyone that I encounter that goes above and beyond the call of
duty. It is usually in the form of a sincere thank you and letting them
know that they are doing a good job.

Jeff

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Michael Horowitz > wrote:
>
>> I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
>> does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike
>
> Not a tip per se, but I gave both of my mechanics money for a
> end-of-year/Christmas gift.
>
> In my case, the mechanics are not self-employed, but rather employees of a
> large company. Thus, they are only paid a salary for the work they do on
> my aircraft. The gift is my small way of thanking them for a year's worth
> of honest business and good work.
>
> --
> Peter
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[W P Dixon]

4 bucks an hour, MAN WERE YOU GETTING RIPPED OFF!!!!!!

Patrick

"Jeff" > wrote in message
...
> You know Peter what you say makes good sense. Back in the early 80's when
> I got my A&P I was working for minimum wage for a small FBO in MO. He was
> charging like $40 a hour for the work I did, but I was only getting $4 a
> hour. I was young with very few expenses living at home with my parents
> helping out on the farm. I was trying to build flight time so my boss did
> help me out with a reduced airplane rental fee (basically paying for the
> fuel plus a few bucks per hour). I was trying to gain experience. I
> always did the best job that I could working on everyone's airplane and I
> think my work was always appreciated.
>
> Now that I am a little older (and wiser I think), I go out of my way to
> say thank you to anyone that I encounter that goes above and beyond the
> call of duty. It is usually in the form of a sincere thank you and
> letting them know that they are doing a good job.
>
> Jeff
>
> "Peter R." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Michael Horowitz > wrote:
>>
>>> I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
>>> does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike
>>
>> Not a tip per se, but I gave both of my mechanics money for a
>> end-of-year/Christmas gift.
>>
>> In my case, the mechanics are not self-employed, but rather employees of
>> a
>> large company. Thus, they are only paid a salary for the work they do on
>> my aircraft. The gift is my small way of thanking them for a year's
>> worth
>> of honest business and good work.
>>
>> --
>> Peter
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[C J Campbell]

"Michael Horowitz" > wrote in message
...
> I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
> does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike

No. I am a little disturbed about the rapidly growing list of people
expecting a tip. In fact, I am outraged that so many people will not do the
job they are being paid to do unless they are paid an additional bribe. It
speaks volumes about the lack of professional integrity in society.

Still, you should tip me for sightseeing flights and instruction, etc. :-)

[RST Engineering]

No, WE are the ones getting ripped off for one line of message followed by
fifty lines of unsnipped download bandwidth.

Jim


"W P Dixon" > wrote in message
...
>4 bucks an hour, MAN WERE YOU GETTING RIPPED OFF!!!!!!
>
> Patrick
>
> "Jeff" > wrote in message
> ...
>> You know Peter what you say makes good sense. Back in the early 80's
>> when

[W P Dixon]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> No, WE are the ones getting ripped off for one line of message followed by
> fifty lines of unsnipped download bandwidth.
>
> Jim
>
>
>My apologies Lord Jim of Internet land! Must remember to snip must remember
>to snip! Ok , I think I got it now! ;)
Patrick

[Aaron Coolidge]

In rec.aviation.owning Michael Horowitz wrote:
: I imagine circumstances dictate this to some degree, but if your A&P
: does some work for you, do you tip him? Percentage? - Mike

If he does exceptional, beyond the call of duty work I will tip him.
Especially as he does not charge his regular customers to borrow his
shop, tools, or expertise for short periods of time, nor does he charge
for inspecting work I have done and recording such in my logs.
--
Aaron Coolidge

[Sport Pilot]

Even in the early 80's you should have gotten at least twice what you
were paid. Heck I worked on lawnmowers in the 70's for $5 per hour.

[LCT Paintball]

> Even in the early 80's you should have gotten at least twice what you
> were paid. Heck I worked on lawnmowers in the 70's for $5 per hour.
>

I started learning the tool and die trade in the mid 80's. I got $3.35 per
hour and walked to work in the snow, uphill, both ways!

[Sport Pilot]

LCT Paintball wrote:
> > Even in the early 80's you should have gotten at least twice what
you
> > were paid. Heck I worked on lawnmowers in the 70's for $5 per
hour.
> >
>
> I started learning the tool and die trade in the mid 80's. I got
$3.35 per
> hour and walked to work in the snow, uphill, both ways!


Well I worked one spring and summer at Sears servicing and repairing
lawn mowers, which consisted mostly of changing the oil, replacing
points, and replacing bent crankshafts. Got $5.00 an hour for part
time work, then full time for a couple of months while going to
college. Maybe you guys went into the wrong trade?

[Paul kgyy]

At $80 an hour? Are you kidding?

[[email protected]]

Blanche wrote:
>
> However, I do bring krispy kreme or brownies every once in a while.
> Makes everyone in the shop happier. And they're more likely to
> talk to me immediately when I come in with a problem. The actual
> work may not be scheduled for a while but it's never "I'm busy
> let's talk about this in 10 days..."

That's the idea. I bring doughnuts in the morning or beer on Friday
afternoon. My shop has about 11 guys working on planes and I like to
be on their good side. It pays off in little ways, like getting
someone to come over and give a strut a shot of nitrogen when you're in
a hurry.

Just yesterday one of the guys talked the owner into letting him
paint my (chromate green) rudder, since he had to paint some new skins
for another customer. He was supposed to just shoot the whole thing
white, and though it wasn't going to match the color of the stab(blue
over white), it would be better than puke green. Yesterday I show up
at the shop and my rudder is almost good as new. The mech dug around
the old paint stores and found a matching navy blue , then masked it
all off on the plane and did a fantastic job matching up the stripes.
I told him it was supposed to be a quick and dirty all white freebie
and he told me it wasn't a problem. He did it during his spare time on
his lunch hour. You can't beat that kind of service.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[RST Engineering]

San Diego didn't have snow, but I started my first electronics job in the
local TV shop when I was 15 at 35 cents an hour (1958).

Jim


"LCT Paintball" > wrote in message
news:aNM%d.93359$Ze3.15807@attbi_s51...
>> Even in the early 80's you should have gotten at least twice what you
>> were paid. Heck I worked on lawnmowers in the 70's for $5 per hour.
>>
>
> I started learning the tool and die trade in the mid 80's. I got $3.35 per
> hour and walked to work in the snow, uphill, both ways!
>

[Montblack]

("RST Engineering" wrote)
> San Diego didn't have snow, but I started my first electronics job in the
> local TV shop when I was 15 at 35 cents an hour (1958).


1959 New Cessna 150 base price $6,995
(Add $2,000 for average delivery price after options, etc)

1978 New Cessna 152 base price ...$14,950
1983 New Cessna 152 base price ....$34,000

(Add $5,000 for average delivery price after options, etc)

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C14023BBA
Cesana 150-152 prices (1959-1985)


HS Jobs:
1974 (14) baby sitting ...........................$0.50
1975 (15) lifeguard/swim teacher ........$1.85
1978 (18) lifeguard/swim teacher ........$2.85
1978 (18) Arby's (sandwich maker) .....$3.85
($2.85 for front counter order takers)

Post graduation (1 year "off" before college)

1978 (18) Pop factory (teamster union) ....$4.25
(7 days/week/10 hours/day summer "temp" job)

1979 (19) Paper plant in St Paul (union) ....$7.00
(7 days/week/10 hours/day ...1.5 and 2x overtime pay <g>)

My union brewery jobs in 1980's started at about $10.00 and went up to
$14.00 by 1989.

(1978 -1983) When I'd get laid off from a factory job in the winter, due to
low seniority, I'd drive school bus. Also drove bus at college. Average pay
.....$6.00


Montblack

[LCT Paintball]

> college. Maybe you guys went into the wrong trade?
>


Maybe, but while my friends were going to college, I bought a house. I have
a good trade under my belt, and have my own shop. All without student loans.
I'm not making the big bucks, but I do OK.

What do you do now?