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Bob Gardner
May 15th 05, 06:01 PM
Flash!! A Washington Post story reprinted in the Seattle Times says that a
Cessna 150 is a turboprop!!

Bob Gardner

Garner Miller
May 15th 05, 06:06 PM
In article >, Bob Gardner
> wrote:

> Flash!! A Washington Post story reprinted in the Seattle Times says that a
> Cessna 150 is a turboprop!!

Oh, MAN, how cool would one of those be...

--
Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Clifton Park, NY =USA=

Dave S
May 15th 05, 06:43 PM
Garner Miller wrote:

> In article >, Bob Gardner
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Flash!! A Washington Post story reprinted in the Seattle Times says that a
>>Cessna 150 is a turboprop!!
>
>
> Oh, MAN, how cool would one of those be...
>
You'd run out of fuel during the taxi...

Dave

Sport Pilot
May 15th 05, 08:09 PM
Dave S wrote:
> Garner Miller wrote:
>
> > In article >, Bob Gardner
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Flash!! A Washington Post story reprinted in the Seattle Times says
that a
> >>Cessna 150 is a turboprop!!
> >
> >
> > Oh, MAN, how cool would one of those be...
> >
> You'd run out of fuel during the taxi...
>
> Dave


They make turbine jet engines for model airplanes now. I even recall
someone attaching a ring gear to the impeller and making a turbo prop
out of it. So a turbo prop C 150 would not be impossible.

So would a turboprop equiped C 150 have made the last three miles?

Ben Hallert
May 15th 05, 08:52 PM
These folks are working on an economical GA turboprop that could
probably be fitted to a 152 just fine, they talk about FWF kits for
other O-235 planes, why not the 152?

http://www.innodyn.com/

Kyle Boatright
May 15th 05, 09:41 PM
"Ben Hallert" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> These folks are working on an economical GA turboprop that could
> probably be fitted to a 152 just fine, they talk about FWF kits for
> other O-235 planes, why not the 152?
>
> http://www.innodyn.com/
>

These folks have been peddling turbines for years under a couple of
different company names (ATP was their first name). As of yet, I do not
believe they have shipped any customer units.

Something that really galls me about them is that they continue to push the
idea that their fuel metering system is going to make their turbine nearly
as efficient as a reciprocating engine. Ain't gonna happen unless they find
a way around one of the laws of thermodynamics.

Making their fuel efficiency claims/projections even more suspicious, they
have been either "about to conduct" or "conducting" fuel efficiency tests
for a number of years, but either don't do the testing, don't publish the
results, or claim that the results are not representative.

KB

george
May 15th 05, 09:44 PM
I want one. Might be only an hour endurance but I want one :-)

Morgans
May 15th 05, 10:32 PM
"Ben Hallert" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> These folks are working on an economical GA turboprop that could
> probably be fitted to a 152 just fine, they talk about FWF kits for
> other O-235 planes, why not the 152?
>
> http://www.innodyn.com/

A 165 HP turboprop (the smallest they offer) would make for spritely
performance, in a 152. The gross would need to be raised, and some extra
tankage to carry enough fuel to make it worthwhile.

What do you have, then? An old airplane with enough power to pull it apart?
Hmmm.

--
Jim in NC

houstondan
May 16th 05, 12:02 AM
the was a 180hp 152 (t'dragger a-bat, i think) in t.a.p. and i thought
that was kinda way out there.

reminds me of people putting big v-8 motors in little bitty brit sports
cars years ago. looks like fun till you get to the first turn.

dan

Dylan Smith
May 16th 05, 11:35 AM
In article om>, Sport Pilot wrote:
> They make turbine jet engines for model airplanes now. I even recall
> someone attaching a ring gear to the impeller and making a turbo prop
> out of it. So a turbo prop C 150 would not be impossible.

Someone made a turbojet powered Cri-Cri (a single seat aircraft normally
powered by two small two-stroke engines on small pylons off the nose).
The cheapest twinjet time in the world!

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Dylan Smith
May 16th 05, 11:38 AM
In article >, Morgans wrote:
> What do you have, then? An old airplane with enough power to pull it apart?
> Hmmm.

Well, not really. The tow plane at our glider club was built in 1946 and
originally had a Gipsy inline 4 cylinder engine of 85 hp.

It now has an O-320 of 160 hp, and regularly has a glider attached to
the other end. Performance is great when the glider is not attached!

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Sport Pilot
May 16th 05, 06:20 PM
Dylan Smith wrote:
> In article om>,
Sport Pilot wrote:
> > They make turbine jet engines for model airplanes now. I even
recall
> > someone attaching a ring gear to the impeller and making a turbo
prop
> > out of it. So a turbo prop C 150 would not be impossible.
>
> Someone made a turbojet powered Cri-Cri (a single seat aircraft
normally
> powered by two small two-stroke engines on small pylons off the
nose).
> The cheapest twinjet time in the world!
>
> --
> Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
> Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
> Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
> "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Yes, the turbojet Cri-Cri was powered by two model airplane turbines,
the largest available. I think they were over 30 lbs thrust each.

John Galban
May 16th 05, 11:10 PM
Ron Natalie wrote:
>
> There was a Turbine Luscombe or something like that kicking around
> for a while.

There still is. It was built by the Luscombe Foundation here in AZ.
It's a classic example of why turbines and small low flying aircraft
are not a good mix. The 150 hp turbine burns about 16 gph in cruise.
With the Luscombe's small fuel capacity, range is pretty miserable.
The only incident I've heard of with the plane was... wait for it...
fuel starvation!

All in all, it's a very interesting exercise in design and
engineering, but as a practical mod, it's a flop.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

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