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JJS
May 18th 05, 04:31 AM
Every once in awhile someone asks about our favorite aerospace vehicle
cleaners and/or waxes. A few weeks ago I was in Texas at a NASCAR
race. One of the trailers out in front was manned by Simple Green
reps. I dragged my daughter away from the Earnhardt Jr. trailer long
enough to see if they were handing out free samples of cleaner. They
were, and even had the requisite pretty young lady doing her best
Vanna White routine. Unfortunately, the miniature sample bottles were
of the "regular" Simple Green and I was interested in the new aviation
grade stuff. Never one to give up easily on the possibility of a free
hand out, I weaseled my way to the front of the pack and asked the
wanta-be Ms. Vanna if she had any "Aviation grade Simple Green."
After she rolled her eyes and looked at me like I was from who knows
where, she said, "No and I don't know what you are talking about", and
then quickly regained her composure and went to handing out more
regular bottles. I shrugged to my daughter and began to turn away
like a puppy with his tail between his legs when I saw a case of the
"Extreme Simple Green Aircraft and Precision Formula" stacked right
behind Vanna with a full sized 32 oz. bottle perched on top out in
full display splendor. I pointed and I said that's what I'm looking
for. She turned and had a blank look on her face. She didn't even
know the stuff existed. Anyway, another rep standing beside us said
they didn't have any free samples of the new stuff. But, then he
asked if I was an aircraft mechanic. I told him no... I own an
airplane. He asked me what kind and I said Piper Cherokee. He handed
me the full new bottle and said go ahead and try it. Wow, success! I
brought my trophy prize home to try out on my bird and was sorely
disappointed. It didn't remove bugs off the leading edge worth a
darn. I tried it on a greasy spot and it worked great, though. I
tried it under the belly and to make a long story short, I spent the
next 15 minutes on my back with a rag, and 8437R's tummy never shined
so bright since her last new paint job years ago. It really works
great on belly grease and grime and fuel stains. It took me perhaps
1/5th of the bottle to do 37R's belly. I'll buy more when I've used
it up because it made the nasty job really go quickly. Aircraft
Spruce has it for $10. It meets Boeing spec D6-1748P.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/09-00809.php
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Joe Schneider
8437R
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Peter R.
May 18th 05, 01:59 PM
Joe wrote:

> It really works great on belly grease and grime and fuel stains.

Joe, thanks for the interesting story and the PIREP on the product.
:-)

--
Peter

Jay Honeck
May 18th 05, 02:15 PM
> Spruce has it for $10. It meets Boeing spec D6-1748P.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/09-00809.php

Thanks for the PIREP, Joe.

Now all I've got to do is find a local supplier, and I'll be set!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

John Clonts
May 18th 05, 03:11 PM
I agree that it does a great job removing grease, oil, and gas stains.
On my plane though, it also seems to be removing a bit of the paint (I
have brown trim and wiping it with E.S.G. with a white rag ends up with
some brown on the rag).

I REALLY miss the overall cleaning and waxing properties of Lemon
Pledge Trigger! Everything else I've tried seems to be "watery", in
contrast to the Pledge "lotion-y".

I'll probably just fall back to using plain water ....

--
Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

JJS
May 18th 05, 06:09 PM
"John Clonts" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I agree that it does a great job removing grease, oil, and gas
>stains.
> On my plane though, it also seems to be removing a bit of the paint
> (I
> have brown trim and wiping it with E.S.G. with a white rag ends up
> with
> some brown on the rag).
>
> I REALLY miss the overall cleaning and waxing properties of Lemon
> Pledge Trigger! Everything else I've tried seems to be "watery", in
> contrast to the Pledge "lotion-y".
>
> I'll probably just fall back to using plain water ....
>
> --
> Cheers,
> John Clonts
> Temple, Texas
> N7NZ

Damn! Thanks for the heads up! I'll keep my eye on this. Anybody
else had the same problem? BTW, what's E.S.G.?



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Mark Hansen
May 18th 05, 06:16 PM
On 5/18/2005 10:09, JJS wrote:

> "John Clonts" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>I agree that it does a great job removing grease, oil, and gas
>>stains.
>> On my plane though, it also seems to be removing a bit of the paint
>> (I
>> have brown trim and wiping it with E.S.G. with a white rag ends up
>> with
>> some brown on the rag).
>>
>> I REALLY miss the overall cleaning and waxing properties of Lemon
>> Pledge Trigger! Everything else I've tried seems to be "watery", in
>> contrast to the Pledge "lotion-y".
>>
>> I'll probably just fall back to using plain water ....
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> John Clonts
>> Temple, Texas
>> N7NZ
>
> Damn! Thanks for the heads up! I'll keep my eye on this. Anybody
> else had the same problem? BTW, what's E.S.G.?

Extreme Simple Green?

>
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Mike Rapoport
May 18th 05, 06:56 PM
"JJS" <jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net> wrote in message
...
> Every once in awhile someone asks about our favorite aerospace vehicle
> cleaners and/or waxes. A few weeks ago I was in Texas at a NASCAR race.
> One of the trailers out in front was manned by Simple Green reps. I
> dragged my daughter away from the Earnhardt Jr. trailer long enough to see
> if they were handing out free samples of cleaner. They were, and even had
> the requisite pretty young lady doing her best Vanna White routine.
> Unfortunately, the miniature sample bottles were of the "regular" Simple
> Green and I was interested in the new aviation grade stuff. Never one to
> give up easily on the possibility of a free hand out, I weaseled my way to
> the front of the pack and asked the wanta-be Ms. Vanna if she had any
> "Aviation grade Simple Green." After she rolled her eyes and looked at me
> like I was from who knows where, she said, "No and I don't know what you
> are talking about", and then quickly regained her composure and went to
> handing out more regular bottles. I shrugged to my daughter and began to
> turn away like a puppy with his tail between his legs when I saw a case of
> the "Extreme Simple Green Aircraft and Precision Formula" stacked right
> behind Vanna with a full sized 32 oz. bottle perched on top out in full
> display splendor. I pointed and I said that's what I'm looking for. She
> turned and had a blank look on her face. She didn't even know the stuff
> existed. Anyway, another rep standing beside us said they didn't have any
> free samples of the new stuff. But, then he asked if I was an aircraft
> mechanic. I told him no... I own an airplane. He asked me what kind and
> I said Piper Cherokee. He handed me the full new bottle and said go ahead
> and try it. Wow, success! I brought my trophy prize home to try out on
> my bird and was sorely disappointed. It didn't remove bugs off the
> leading edge worth a darn. I tried it on a greasy spot and it worked
> great, though. I tried it under the belly and to make a long story short,
> I spent the next 15 minutes on my back with a rag, and 8437R's tummy never
> shined so bright since her last new paint job years ago. It really works
> great on belly grease and grime and fuel stains. It took me perhaps 1/5th
> of the bottle to do 37R's belly. I'll buy more when I've used it up
> because it made the nasty job really go quickly. Aircraft Spruce has it
> for $10. It meets Boeing spec D6-1748P.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/09-00809.php
> --
> Joe Schneider
> 8437R
> (Remove No Spam to Reply)

I bought five gallons from www.quartzaviation.com for about $81 including
shipping. A nice feature of Simple Green Extreme is that it doesn't seem to
remove wax (or it leaves something else that beads up water).

Mike
MU-2

Mike Rapoport
May 18th 05, 06:57 PM
"John Clonts" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I agree that it does a great job removing grease, oil, and gas stains.
> On my plane though, it also seems to be removing a bit of the paint (I
> have brown trim and wiping it with E.S.G. with a white rag ends up with
> some brown on the rag).
>
> I REALLY miss the overall cleaning and waxing properties of Lemon
> Pledge Trigger! Everything else I've tried seems to be "watery", in
> contrast to the Pledge "lotion-y".
>
> I'll probably just fall back to using plain water ....
>
> --
> Cheers,
> John Clonts
> Temple, Texas
> N7NZ
>

I assume that your paint is oxidized? It sure doesn't remove my paint!

Mike
MU-2

Darrel Toepfer
May 18th 05, 07:18 PM
John Clonts wrote:

> I agree that it does a great job removing grease, oil, and gas stains.
> On my plane though, it also seems to be removing a bit of the paint (I
> have brown trim and wiping it with E.S.G. with a white rag ends up with
> some brown on the rag).
>
> I REALLY miss the overall cleaning and waxing properties of Lemon
> Pledge Trigger! Everything else I've tried seems to be "watery", in
> contrast to the Pledge "lotion-y".

We use the ORANGE trigger and it seems to work well with the leading
edges. I'm gonna try just plain water for comparison though...

> I'll probably just fall back to using plain water ....

This morning I brought along WD-40 and ORANGE GREASED LIGHTNING and
regular GREASED LIGHTNING ($3 for 40oz trigger spray, says aluminum safe
on the bottle) along with the BLUE SHOP TOWELS from WallyWorld. I never
got past the regular GL as it dissolved the belly mess and dripped it
off. Simply wiping with a dry towel removed all the gunk with very
little effort. A bit over half-bottle and roll of towels did the entire
bottom half (everything below the plexi) of a C172 that had been washed
the day before but the belly left for another day. I've shopped around
the stores for E.S.G. with no luck, I won't waste anymore time looking
for it in the future. I'm very satisfied with GL and it would be a
bargain at triple the price...

It did remove oxidized paint, but didn't take off anything that wasn't
already peeling or missing...

John Clonts
May 18th 05, 07:24 PM
Mike Rapoport wrote:
> I assume that your paint is oxidized? It sure doesn't remove my
paint!

Not visibly so-- it's still quite shiny, especially the brown part.
But it IS a 1979 model, and AFAIK original paint. So it could be...

What dilution do you use for routine cleaning?

John

May 18th 05, 07:45 PM
JJS wrote:

> tried it under the belly and to make a long story short, I spent the
> next 15 minutes on my back with a rag, and 8437R's tummy never shined

> so bright since her last new paint job years ago. It really works
> great on belly grease and grime and fuel stains. It took me perhaps
> 1/5th of the bottle to do 37R's belly. I'll buy more when I've used
> it up because it made the nasty job really go quickly. Aircraft
> Spruce has it for $10. It meets Boeing spec D6-1748P.

Home Depot has VM&P Naptha for about $9/gallon. Works great on a wad of
paper towels for degreasing the belly of airplanes. I've done mine
about 7 times and still have half the gallon left. Dries away clean and
shiny too and does not hurt the paint. Just keep in mind the
flammability and use in a well-ventilated area.

Mike Rapoport
May 18th 05, 08:06 PM
"John Clonts" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Mike Rapoport wrote:
>> I assume that your paint is oxidized? It sure doesn't remove my
> paint!
>
> Not visibly so-- it's still quite shiny, especially the brown part.
> But it IS a 1979 model, and AFAIK original paint. So it could be...
>
> What dilution do you use for routine cleaning?
>
> John
>

I never measure it, I just put some in with a bucket of water and carry
around a squirt bottle of full strength for problem areas.

Mike
MU-2

Ross Richardson
May 18th 05, 09:11 PM
John Clonts wrote:

> I agree that it does a great job removing grease, oil, and gas stains.
> On my plane though, it also seems to be removing a bit of the paint (I
> have brown trim and wiping it with E.S.G. with a white rag ends up with
> some brown on the rag).
>
> I REALLY miss the overall cleaning and waxing properties of Lemon
> Pledge Trigger! Everything else I've tried seems to be "watery", in
> contrast to the Pledge "lotion-y".
>
> I'll probably just fall back to using plain water ....
>
John, have you ever tried Aerocosmetics' Wash&Wax? Doesn't work on
grease but the bugs it works great. They also sell a "brillo pad" that
does not scratch. However, I do not use it on the plastic, just the
paint. This combination works well on removing bugs on your automobile.

--
Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP

JJS
May 19th 05, 03:35 AM
"Mark Hansen" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/18/2005 10:09, JJS wrote:
>
>> "John Clonts" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>>I agree that it does a great job removing grease, oil, and gas
>>>stains.
>>> On my plane though, it also seems to be removing a bit of the
>>> paint (I
>>> have brown trim and wiping it with E.S.G. with a white rag ends up
>>> with
>>> some brown on the rag).
>>>
>>> I REALLY miss the overall cleaning and waxing properties of Lemon
>>> Pledge Trigger! Everything else I've tried seems to be "watery",
>>> in
>>> contrast to the Pledge "lotion-y".
>>>
>>> I'll probably just fall back to using plain water ....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> John Clonts
>>> Temple, Texas
>>> N7NZ
>>
>> Damn! Thanks for the heads up! I'll keep my eye on this. Anybody
>> else had the same problem? BTW, what's E.S.G.?
>
> Extreme Simple Green?
>
>>
>>
>>
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> Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Student
> Sacramento, CA

Well, obviously if he'd have abbreviated it ESGA&PF, (Extreme Simple
Green Aircraft and Precision Formula) as it says on the bottle I would
have picked right up on it! :' )



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