New aircraft come-ons

[Jimmy B.]

Ever since my name has appeared in the FAA database as an aircraft
owner, I've been receiving letters and cards from various new aircraft
manufacturers asking me to take a test flight.

So far, I've received one from Cirrus, Lanceair, and Beechcraft.

Has anyone else had this happen to them? Is this just a recent
phenomena or is it because I now appear as a owner? I never received
these when I was a renter.

I'm really tempted to take the test flights, but I really don't want to
have to deal with the salesperson afterward.

[Dude]

"Jimmy B." > wrote in message
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> Ever since my name has appeared in the FAA database as an aircraft owner,
> I've been receiving letters and cards from various new aircraft
> manufacturers asking me to take a test flight.
>
> So far, I've received one from Cirrus, Lanceair, and Beechcraft.
>
> Has anyone else had this happen to them? Is this just a recent phenomena
> or is it because I now appear as a owner? I never received these when I
> was a renter.
>
> I'm really tempted to take the test flights, but I really don't want to
> have to deal with the salesperson afterward.

If you don't want to deal with the salesman afterwards, then tell him before
you take the ride. Don't be suprised if they don't want to give you the
ride though.

[Michelle P]

I get the same thing.
there is an opt out if your write the FAA. address escapes me at the moment.
Michelle

Jimmy B. wrote:

> Ever since my name has appeared in the FAA database as an aircraft
> owner, I've been receiving letters and cards from various new aircraft
> manufacturers asking me to take a test flight.
>
> So far, I've received one from Cirrus, Lanceair, and Beechcraft.
>
> Has anyone else had this happen to them? Is this just a recent
> phenomena or is it because I now appear as a owner? I never received
> these when I was a renter.
>
> I'm really tempted to take the test flights, but I really don't want
> to have to deal with the salesperson afterward.

[Ron Natalie]

Michelle P wrote:
> I get the same thing.
> there is an opt out if your write the FAA. address escapes me at the
> moment.

There is NO opt out of the Owners database.

The FAA abuses their exemption to the privacy act for the privacy
act. I've been trying to opt out for several years even with
congressional assistance but the FAA refuses to obey the law.

[Matt Barrow]

"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
> Michelle P wrote:
> > I get the same thing.
> > there is an opt out if your write the FAA. address escapes me at the
> > moment.
>
> There is NO opt out of the Owners database.
>
> The FAA abuses their exemption to the privacy act for the privacy
> act. I've been trying to opt out for several years even with
> congressional assistance but the FAA refuses to obey the law.

Register to a company with a P.O. Box.

[OtisWinslow]

Throw away the post cards they send.


"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
> Michelle P wrote:
>> I get the same thing.
>> there is an opt out if your write the FAA. address escapes me at the
>> moment.
>
> There is NO opt out of the Owners database.
>
> The FAA abuses their exemption to the privacy act for the privacy
> act. I've been trying to opt out for several years even with
> congressional assistance but the FAA refuses to obey the law.

[Maule Driver]

I rarely receive any. Maybe it's the Maule.

Jimmy B. wrote:
> Ever since my name has appeared in the FAA database as an aircraft
> owner, I've been receiving letters and cards from various new aircraft
> manufacturers asking me to take a test flight.
>
> So far, I've received one from Cirrus, Lanceair, and Beechcraft.
>
> Has anyone else had this happen to them? Is this just a recent
> phenomena or is it because I now appear as a owner? I never received
> these when I was a renter.
>
> I'm really tempted to take the test flights, but I really don't want to
> have to deal with the salesperson afterward.

[Steve Foley]

Go take the test flight, and when you're done, look the salesman in the eye
and tell him you can't get financing right now, but after your bankruptcy is
finalized, you'll let give him a call.

"Jimmy B." > wrote in message
link.net...
> Ever since my name has appeared in the FAA database as an aircraft
> owner, I've been receiving letters and cards from various new aircraft
> manufacturers asking me to take a test flight.
>
> So far, I've received one from Cirrus, Lanceair, and Beechcraft.
>
> Has anyone else had this happen to them? Is this just a recent
> phenomena or is it because I now appear as a owner? I never received
> these when I was a renter.
>
> I'm really tempted to take the test flights, but I really don't want to
> have to deal with the salesperson afterward.

[john smith]

Substitute "divorce" for bankruptcy.

[Mike W.]

"Jimmy B." > wrote in message
link.net...
> Ever since my name has appeared in the FAA database as an aircraft
> owner, I've been receiving letters and cards from various new aircraft
> manufacturers asking me to take a test flight.
>
I'm not an owner, but I have received several from Cirrus and Cessna. Could
be getting my name from Sporty's?

[Robert M. Gary]

Wait until your name shows up as an aircraft owner. I get something
almost every day in the mail from brokers wanting to sell my plane or
paint places, to insurance sales people, etc. I just toss them out
without really looking at them now.

[Robert M. Gary]

That used to work. Nowadays he'd see that as a challenge. They probably
could/would finance someone in the middle of a bankrupcy today. My
company sells software into companies in bankcrupty all the time
(telcos). Its great because the court makes sure you get paid.

-Robert

[George Patterson]

Maule Driver wrote:
> I rarely receive any. Maybe it's the Maule.

Probably. I never got any either.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Jimmy B.]

George Patterson wrote:
> Maule Driver wrote:
>
>> I rarely receive any. Maybe it's the Maule.
>
>
> Probably. I never got any either.
>
> George Patterson
> Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
> and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
> Because she smells like a new truck.
George, didn't you buy your Maule new? Maybe that is why you're not
getting any cards.

I'm a previously, previously, previously owned owner.

To me it is just silly to send these cards to someone who just bought an
airplane, even if it is used. If I wanted new, I wouldn't have bought used.

[Jimmy B.]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> That used to work. Nowadays he'd see that as a challenge. They probably
> could/would finance someone in the middle of a bankrupcy today. My
> company sells software into companies in bankcrupty all the time
> (telcos). Its great because the court makes sure you get paid.
>
> -Robert
>


Yeah, I did that to Mooney a few years ago. I talked to the salesman at
Sun-N-Fun and indicated my interest in an Eagle. He just would not
leave me alone, even after I told him I was considering bankruptcy.
Funny thing is that, shortly after the news about Mooney having
financial difficulties started making the news. The salesman was
adamant about Mooney being stable until the official bankruptcy was filed.

[George Patterson]

Jimmy B. wrote:
>
> George, didn't you buy your Maule new? Maybe that is why you're not
> getting any cards.

Seems like good logic to me. Maule Driver -- did you buy yours new?

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Maule Driver]

No, I was third owner but it only had 35 hours on it.

Apparently the original buy was during on of those Maule "sales"
(inventory clearance). The original bill of sale was for $59K. They
just put it in a hangar and sat on it for a year. Then sold to a guy
Delaware who put some equipment in it but didn't fly it either. Then he
listed in Trade-a-Plane - and I was ready. Next day air delivery of TAP
allowed me to get a jump on my little jewel. It was one of those good
deals that you just had to be first on.

So here I sit trying to figure out how to keep paint on it.

George Patterson wrote:
> Jimmy B. wrote:
>
>>
>> George, didn't you buy your Maule new? Maybe that is why you're not
>> getting any cards.
>
>
> Seems like good logic to me. Maule Driver -- did you buy yours new?
>
> George Patterson
> Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
> and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
> Because she smells like a new truck.

[Paul kgyy]

What seems to trigger this is a change in the registration - I got a
bunch of these after I bought out my partner, but now maybe once a
month only.

[George Patterson]

Maule Driver wrote:
>
> So here I sit trying to figure out how to keep paint on it.

Well, the first step is to take it all off.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.