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RST Engineering
June 19th 05, 04:59 PM
I have a couple of radios that are excess to my current needs, but I really
don't want to sell them. It's the old "Why didn't I keep those around. Now
I've got to buy new ones" syndrome. Here's the list (all 12 volt only):
Microair 760 (760 COM)
Narco Com 11A (360 COM)
Genave A-200 (180 COM, 100 NAV)
RST-572 (720 COM, 200 NAV)
RST-571 (360 COM, 200 NAV)
Narco Nav 11 (200 NAV)
STS AV-7600 (720 COM, 200 NAV Handheld)
All radios come with the Karmic Standard connector and are completely
interchangeable (with the exception of the handheld).
I know everything except the Genave work and work well; I just haven't
plugged the Genave in in a long time. In addition to the above, I've got
the "ferry pack" that I wrote about in Kitplanes (August 04) and talked
about at my Oshkosh 04 forum. Basically the ferry pack is a gel-cell
battery plus a box with all the connectors to fire up any radio independent
of the electrical system of the aircraft.
What I'd like to set up is some sort of "lending library" for these things
so that somebody can get some good short-term use out of them rather than
just collecting dust on the shelf. What I cannot come up with is a good
scheme for the lending process.
99% of all pilots I know are honest. That means that on the average, I will
lose one radio each 50 times I loan one out. That's not good. But I don't
have an alternative security solution.
I also think a $10 fee (or thereabouts) to cover postage and insurance is
reasonable, as is a 30 to 60 day return policy. How say the rest of you?
Thoughts appreciated.
Jim
Jose
June 19th 05, 10:43 PM
> 99% of all pilots I know are honest. That means that on the average, I will
> lose one radio each 50 times I loan one out. That's not good. But I don't
> have an alternative security solution.
Check your math. :) But as an alternative security solution, take a
deposit on the radios. It cuts your exposure.
Jose
r.a.owning retained, though I don't follow the group
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My other car is up my nose.
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Steve Foley
June 20th 05, 02:06 AM
Jim,
I agree with Jose. Take a deposit. I ASS-U-ME that you are set up to take
credit cards for your day to day business. It shouldn't be tough to sell the
radios and refund the balance.
Figure $200 deposit (this is a guess - I don't know what a good deposit
would be)
Charge the credit card $200.
Figure $10 shipping, $6 credit card transaction, and whatever you get
whacked for refunds, and refund the rest when you get the radio back.
Now, to save myself all this money, I need to go find the pair of Genave
Alpha/200s I gave away and see if they solve the problem with the one I have
installed. If not, I may be one if your first takers.
"Jose" > wrote in message
.. .
> > 99% of all pilots I know are honest. That means that on the average, I
will
> > lose one radio each 50 times I loan one out. That's not good. But I
don't
> > have an alternative security solution.
>
> Check your math. :) But as an alternative security solution, take a
> deposit on the radios. It cuts your exposure.
>
> Jose
> r.a.owning retained, though I don't follow the group
> --
> My other car is up my nose.
> for Email, make the obvious change in the address.
Steve Foley
June 20th 05, 12:16 PM
Saw your response in R.A.H about keeping it seperate from the business and
not wanting to do credit cards.
I'll see what happens with my old Genaves, and contact you directly if to
work something out if I want to borrow one.
"Steve Foley" > wrote in message
...
> Now, to save myself all this money, I need to go find the pair of Genave
> Alpha/200s I gave away and see if they solve the problem with the one I
have
> installed. If not, I may be one if your first takers.
Jim,
Again, you show that you are a true gentleman in the aviation business.
Were I to request the loan of a radio, I would expect to pay:
- insured postage both ways.
- a deposit of the commerical value of the radio at 150% of its value to you.
- I'd expect that you would cash my check and write me a check back when
you agree that the radio is returned, less any maintenance required.
In rec.aviation.piloting RST Engineering > wrote:
> I have a couple of radios that are excess to my current needs, but I really
> don't want to sell them. It's the old "Why didn't I keep those around. Now
> I've got to buy new ones" syndrome. Here's the list (all 12 volt only):
> Microair 760 (760 COM)
> Narco Com 11A (360 COM)
> Genave A-200 (180 COM, 100 NAV)
> RST-572 (720 COM, 200 NAV)
> RST-571 (360 COM, 200 NAV)
> Narco Nav 11 (200 NAV)
> STS AV-7600 (720 COM, 200 NAV Handheld)
> All radios come with the Karmic Standard connector and are completely
> interchangeable (with the exception of the handheld).
> I know everything except the Genave work and work well; I just haven't
> plugged the Genave in in a long time. In addition to the above, I've got
> the "ferry pack" that I wrote about in Kitplanes (August 04) and talked
> about at my Oshkosh 04 forum. Basically the ferry pack is a gel-cell
> battery plus a box with all the connectors to fire up any radio independent
> of the electrical system of the aircraft.
> What I'd like to set up is some sort of "lending library" for these things
> so that somebody can get some good short-term use out of them rather than
> just collecting dust on the shelf. What I cannot come up with is a good
> scheme for the lending process.
> 99% of all pilots I know are honest. That means that on the average, I will
> lose one radio each 50 times I loan one out. That's not good. But I don't
> have an alternative security solution.
> I also think a $10 fee (or thereabouts) to cover postage and insurance is
> reasonable, as is a 30 to 60 day return policy. How say the rest of you?
> Thoughts appreciated.
> Jim
Best regards,
Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard
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Darrel Toepfer
June 20th 05, 04:48 PM
wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Again, you show that you are a true gentleman in the aviation business.
>
> Were I to request the loan of a radio, I would expect to pay:
> - insured postage both ways.
> - a deposit of the commerical value of the radio at 150% of its value to you.
> - I'd expect that you would cash my check and write me a check back when
> you agree that the radio is returned, less any maintenance required.
Yeah, but he doesn't have an Garmin 530's, I'd take a CNX 80 myself... <G>
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