View Full Version : Selling my Garmin GPSMap 296
Kobra
September 19th 05, 07:43 AM
Flyers,
I am parting with my Garmin 296 if anyone is interested. It is on eBay at:
http://tinyurl.com/cq9zl
It is one year old and in excellent condition. It comes with all original
accessories and also the full auto kit. It will have the latest firmware
and database.
I hope one of you are interested.
Kobra
Lynne
September 19th 05, 08:54 AM
Would you be willing to exchange 18 bottles of Belvedere Vodka for this
GPS?
Mike Granby
September 19th 05, 02:40 PM
> I am parting with my Garmin 296 if anyone is interested.
You, and a million others. Buying a 396, by any chance?
Kobra
September 19th 05, 11:36 PM
No...need a new engine. Toasted mine three weeks ago.
Kobra
"Mike Granby" > wrote in message
ups.com...
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>> I am parting with my Garmin 296 if anyone is interested.
>
> You, and a million others. Buying a 396, by any chance?
>
John Doe
September 20th 05, 01:48 AM
How did you do that?
"Kobra" > wrote in message
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> No...need a new engine. Toasted mine three weeks ago.
>
> Kobra
>
>
> "Mike Granby" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>
>>> I am parting with my Garmin 296 if anyone is interested.
>>
>> You, and a million others. Buying a 396, by any chance?
>>
>
>
Mike Granby
September 20th 05, 02:27 AM
> No...need a new engine. Toasted mine three weeks ago.
Urgh. Sorry to hear that. What happened?
September 20th 05, 12:12 PM
Mike Granby wrote:
>>I am parting with my Garmin 296 if anyone is interested.
>
>
> You, and a million others. Buying a 396, by any chance?
>
There are another "million" of us who find the added features of the 396
not worth the extra money, thus quite happy with that the 296 has all
the practical navigation and terrain/obstacle features of the 396.
Mike Granby
September 20th 05, 12:37 PM
> There are another "million" of us who find the added
> features of the 396 not worth the extra money,
That's nice. You seem to be taking it personally, though. I was merely
commented on the rash of older Garmin units that are appearing on eBay.
People you share your beliefs should be able to pick up a bargain;
people who don't might find it a bad time to be selling.
Dave Butler
September 20th 05, 03:00 PM
wrote:
> Mike Granby wrote:
>
>>> I am parting with my Garmin 296 if anyone is interested.
>>
>>
>>
>> You, and a million others. Buying a 396, by any chance?
>>
> There are another "million" of us who find the added features of the 396
> not worth the extra money, thus quite happy with that the 296 has all
> the practical navigation and terrain/obstacle features of the 396.
JA Air took my 196 in trade when I bought my 396 there. I'm sure they're taking
in 296s also. Pretty sure they'll buy your used 196/296 even though you're not
buying a 396. Probably won't give you as much as you'd get on eBay, though.
Dave (happy, happy, happy 396 owner)
Kevin Kubiak
September 20th 05, 03:20 PM
What are they offering for trade-n for a 196?
Kevin Kubiak - PP-ASEL
Dave Butler wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Mike Granby wrote:
>>
>>>> I am parting with my Garmin 296 if anyone is interested.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You, and a million others. Buying a 396, by any chance?
>>>
>> There are another "million" of us who find the added features of the
>> 396 not worth the extra money, thus quite happy with that the 296 has
>> all the practical navigation and terrain/obstacle features of the 396.
>
>
> JA Air took my 196 in trade when I bought my 396 there. I'm sure they're
> taking in 296s also. Pretty sure they'll buy your used 196/296 even
> though you're not buying a 396. Probably won't give you as much as you'd
> get on eBay, though.
>
> Dave (happy, happy, happy 396 owner)
Kobra
September 20th 05, 03:38 PM
> Urgh. Sorry to hear that. What happened?
I have a Cardinal RG with a IO-360A1B6 with 1000 hours on it. On one short
30 min. flight to Cape May, NJ (WWD) I noticed a small amount of oil running
down the nose gear door. I did a cursory look and found the oil level
unchanged and saw nothing through the oil access door. I wiped it off.
On the flight back all oil indicators were fine. When I landed the drip of
oil was back. No big oil loss, but when you fly the same airplane you know
what's suppose to be there and what's not. I called my mechanic and
co-owner and explained the problem. At first the mechanic was not
concerned.
My partner flew a few days later on a short flight and when he landed the
A&P came over to say hello. He then noticed the oil on the gear door. He
grounded the plane and the next day called me to the airport. He showed me
a pretty good leak coming through something called a "though-bolt" on the
number two cylinder. A though-bolt is a long bolt that goes completely
through the engine from one cylinder to the other and helps keep the case
enlighten and tight.
That wasn't the big problem though, he said I could fly with a minor leak at
the through-bolt to TBO. Next he did a dye penetrate test and found a crack
in the case in front of the number 4 jug at one of the studs for that
cylinder. That did it. The engine had to come off, the case split and a
new case was ordered.
The story goes on though. As he was taking the engine off he found one
other interesting item. One of the through-bolt nuts on the bottom of
cylinder number 3 was sheared off completely flush the cylinder base.
That's when the hair on the back of my neck stood up. I have to think that
all this was related as the nut was still laying in the bottom of the
engine. This was recent!
Next I had a recollection of starting the engine before my flight to WWD and
I remember that I heard a "snap!" just as the engine caught. It was loud
enough to make me say, "...what the %$#@ was that?!" and just soft enough
for me to dismiss it and ponder, "...did you really hear what you think you
heard?"
The rest is speculation, but maybe that was the nut snapping off and
something bad happened in the engine causing the leak at the through bolt on
number two cylinder. Maybe the engine was ready to self-destruct in the air
on the next flight. Who knows? But I hope to learn more when the engine is
broken down and inspected. I will keep you all posted if you are
interested.
Kobra
Dave Butler
September 20th 05, 03:40 PM
Kevin Kubiak wrote:
> What are they offering for trade-n for a 196?
$450.
September 20th 05, 03:49 PM
Kobra wrote:
> > Urgh. Sorry to hear that. What happened?
>
> Next I had a recollection of starting the engine before my flight to WWD and
> I remember that I heard a "snap!" just as the engine caught. It was loud
> enough to make me say, "...what the %$#@ was that?!" and just soft enough
> for me to dismiss it and ponder, "...did you really hear what you think you
> heard?"
>
So true... Always the hard question is how do you distinguish between
when the engine goes auto-rough every time you fly over water versus
the truly exceptional snap.
A year ago I turned the key in my Jeep, and it seemed to start pretty
sluggishly, but started nonetheless. Engine ran brilliantly so I
dismissed it. It wasn't cold or anything, I just chalked it up to
gremlins. Five minutes later I double-parked to grab a coffee, came
back out, turned the key, and -clunk-. That sluggish start was the
starter's last gasp. Had I known I could have driven it to a mechanic
and avoided the tow, but it was still under warranty so at least it
only cost me time and not cash.
-cwk.
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