idiot lights

[Doug Palmer]

I need to wire some basic idiot lights for my homebuilt. Some are simple
independent switched light circuits but others indicate motors, such as a
fuel pump is active.

Are there any basic schematics/resources available on the web to show how to
run an indicator in parallel with something like a pump motor. My guess
would be that a diode needs to be included someplace. BTW I will probably
be using LEDs with drop down resistors

Thanks, Doug

[RST Engineering]

The "D" in LED means Diode, so you will have a diode there whether or not
you want it. The simple answer is that a resistor in series with an LED
across an active circuit (like a motor) will light up. THe problem is the
reverse voltage spike (back EMF) of an inductive circuit like a motor when
it is shut off. You may wish (and probably should) break the current limit
resistor to the LED into two parts and put a fairly hefty snubber diode in
the circuit.


Like so:


+ bus ----- switch ----- motor --- ground
|
|
resistor
|
|------resistor---LEDA-LEDK---ground
|
diodeK
diodeA
|
|
ground

Jim


"Doug Palmer" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>I need to wire some basic idiot lights for my homebuilt. Some are simple
> independent switched light circuits but others indicate motors, such as a
> fuel pump is active.
>
> Are there any basic schematics/resources available on the web to show how
> to
> run an indicator in parallel with something like a pump motor. My guess
> would be that a diode needs to be included someplace. BTW I will probably
> be using LEDs with drop down resistors
>
> Thanks, Doug
>
>

[ejb]

Hi Doug,
I'm planning on doing this kind of thing also.

Can you give some example part numbers for a snubber diode. Are you
referring to zener diodes?

RST Engineering wrote:
> The "D" in LED means Diode, so you will have a diode there whether or not
> you want it. The simple answer is that a resistor in series with an LED
> across an active circuit (like a motor) will light up. THe problem is the
> reverse voltage spike (back EMF) of an inductive circuit like a motor when
> it is shut off. You may wish (and probably should) break the current limit
> resistor to the LED into two parts and put a fairly hefty snubber diode in
> the circuit.
>
>
> Like so:
>
>
> + bus ----- switch ----- motor --- ground
> |
> |
> resistor
> |
> |------resistor---LEDA-LEDK---ground
> |
> diodeK
> diodeA
> |
> |
> ground
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Doug Palmer" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> >I need to wire some basic idiot lights for my homebuilt. Some are simple
> > independent switched light circuits but others indicate motors, such as a
> > fuel pump is active.
> >
> > Are there any basic schematics/resources available on the web to show how
> > to
> > run an indicator in parallel with something like a pump motor. My guess
> > would be that a diode needs to be included someplace. BTW I will probably
> > be using LEDs with drop down resistors
> >
> > Thanks, Doug
> >
> >

[RST Engineering]

The 1N400x series are generally hefty enough to use for snubbers. For a
small motor like a fuel pump, I'd probably use a 1N4004 or above.

Jim



"ejb" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hi Doug,
> I'm planning on doing this kind of thing also.
>
> Can you give some example part numbers for a snubber diode. Are you
> referring to zener diodes?

[ejb]

Great stuff. I'm very glad to have this forewarning.
There's no substitute for this usnet group :-)

[Doug Palmer]

Thanks All, Very Helpful

Doug
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