fuel monitor

[Tri-Pacer]

I'm leaning towards installing a fuel flow monitor.

Either the JPI FS 450 or the Shadin Microflo-L Since I have only a 2 1/4
hole open I've kind of settled on one of these two.

Any comments pro or con?

Thanks

Paul
N1431A S44

[Newps]

Tri-Pacer wrote:

> I'm leaning towards installing a fuel flow monitor.
>
> Either the JPI FS 450 or the Shadin Microflo-L Since I have only a 2 1/4
> hole open I've kind of settled on one of these two.
>
> Any comments pro or con?

Go with the Shadin, JPI is a horrible company.

[Marc J. Zeitlin]

Tri-Pacer wrote:

> I'm leaning towards installing a fuel flow monitor.
>
> Either the JPI FS 450 or the Shadin Microflo-L Since I have only a 2
> 1/4 hole open I've kind of settled on one of these two.
>
> Any comments pro or con?

I have the Shadin in my COZY MKIV. It works great and is easy to use,
and seems to be VERY accurate. With no calibration (just as it came out
of the box) it's usually within 0.1 gallons on a 50 gallon fillup. I
have it patched into my Garmin 195 output, and it gives useful MPG, fuel
to dest., etc. information.

It did crap out on me once, and rebooted itself every 3 seconds or so,
but I sent it back, they found a cold solder joint, fixed it, and had it
back to me in about 2 weeks. No charge, under warranty.

I have no experience with the JPI unit or the company.

--
Marc J. Zeitlin
http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright (c) 2005

[Jon Kraus]

We have a Shadin Mini-FLow in our Mooney and it works great. There is
also functionality for the newer Shadin units that can pass data to a
GPS such as a Garmin 430. JPI has been getting brutalized os of late
because they were going to start charging folks to translate their raw
JPI flight data into something readable.

Whatever you decide to do I believe that a fuel flow monitoring system
is one of the smartest and cheapest upgrades in aviation.

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ TYQ

Tri-Pacer wrote:
> I'm leaning towards installing a fuel flow monitor.
>
> Either the JPI FS 450 or the Shadin Microflo-L Since I have only a 2 1/4
> hole open I've kind of settled on one of these two.
>
> Any comments pro or con?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
> N1431A S44
>
>

[George Patterson]

Tri-Pacer wrote:

> Any comments pro or con?

I don't buy JPI.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

[Thomas Borchert]

George,

This thread shows the power of the consumer in the age of the internet
quite nicely...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Paul kgyy]

I have the JPI on my Arrow - works great, never had a complaint about
their service or support.

[Victor J. Osborne, Jr.]

I too, like to vent my comments about cust. support (read Garmin) but I did
get the new JPI EzTrends FREE for the download, tech support on a new laptop
that was complaining about the download. (USB is the norm. Serial is what
JPI does, hence the converter.)

Can't sat that I've had bad service. The product works as advertised and if
you include fuel flow with the engine analyzer, you save the hole and get
the full features of the JPI.

Having used EI & JPI, I'd say the JPI has better features and no complaints
about the support.

YRMV, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.

"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I have the JPI on my Arrow - works great, never had a complaint about
> their service or support.
>

[Newps]

Victor J. Osborne, Jr. wrote:
> I too, like to vent my comments about cust. support (read Garmin) but I did
> get the new JPI EzTrends FREE for the download, tech support on a new laptop
> that was complaining about the download. (USB is the norm. Serial is what
> JPI does, hence the converter.)
>
> Can't sat that I've had bad service. The product works as advertised and if
> you include fuel flow with the engine analyzer, you save the hole and get
> the full features of the JPI.
>
> Having used EI & JPI, I'd say the JPI has better features and no complaints
> about the support.

Then you came in at the end. JPI went thru a whole process to make it
impossible to read the data that used to be readable with a simple
prorgam that every computer had. They then made you send them your data
and they would send it back to you in a readable format. After all the
bitching they made the program available to you for free so if you don't
know the backstory you think it's a great deal. But that isn't even the
worst of it. Their attitude towards their customers is horrible. I
still belong to the Cessna Pilots Assoc and on their message boards the
president of the company has dozens of messages there basically saying
to kiss my ass. If you don't like it buy something else. You couldn't
have written a better script on how not to treat customers. EI is
laughing all the way to the bank.

[John Doe]

"Victor J. Osborne, Jr." > wrote in message
...

> Having used EI & JPI, I'd say the JPI has better features and no
> complaints about the support.

Which models have you used? Are you comparing the UBG-16 to the EDM-700?

[Victor J. Osborne, Jr.]

Yes. Voltage and Fuel flow on my EDM-700 add value, in my opinion

YRMV, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
"John Doe" > wrote in message
news:EaS4f.4687$v_5.3045@dukeread07...
>
> "Victor J. Osborne, Jr." > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Having used EI & JPI, I'd say the JPI has better features and no
>> complaints about the support.
>
> Which models have you used? Are you comparing the UBG-16 to the EDM-700?
>