Hurricane Wilma Damages

[Marty from Florida]

It's Marty again from Wonderful Palm Beach Florida.

My Cessna was destroyed on Sunday by Hurricane Wilma, and I'm heart-broken.
I've uploaded some photos of Lantana Airport, with 3 images of my ex-pride
and joy.

www.worth.net/lantana

Updates to come.
ps. If anyone has a Cessna they're not using much ...

[John Clonts]

"Marty from Florida" <marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net> wrote in message
.. .
> It's Marty again from Wonderful Palm Beach Florida.
>
> My Cessna was destroyed on Sunday by Hurricane Wilma, and I'm heart-broken.
> I've uploaded some photos of Lantana Airport, with 3 images of my ex-pride
> and joy.
>
> www.worth.net/lantana
>

Wow, that is really sad!

[tony roberts]

Hi Marty

Very very sorry to hear that.
Let's hope that the insurance doesn't give you too much grief, so you
can at least start again. That is really lousy news,

Best wishes

Tony

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

In article >,
"Marty from Florida" <marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net> wrote:

> It's Marty again from Wonderful Palm Beach Florida.
>
> My Cessna was destroyed on Sunday by Hurricane Wilma, and I'm heart-broken.
> I've uploaded some photos of Lantana Airport, with 3 images of my ex-pride
> and joy.
>
> www.worth.net/lantana
>
> Updates to come.
> ps. If anyone has a Cessna they're not using much ...

[John Doe]

Sorry for your loss, but why didn't you move it?

I sure wouldn't let my plane sit there and risk it.


"Marty from Florida" <marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net> wrote in message
.. .
> It's Marty again from Wonderful Palm Beach Florida.
>
> My Cessna was destroyed on Sunday by Hurricane Wilma, and I'm
> heart-broken.
> I've uploaded some photos of Lantana Airport, with 3 images of my ex-pride
> and joy.
>
> www.worth.net/lantana
>
> Updates to come.
> ps. If anyone has a Cessna they're not using much ...
>
>

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "John Doe" > said:
>Sorry for your loss, but why didn't you move it?
>
>I sure wouldn't let my plane sit there and risk it.

We've been through this already. You get what, 3 or 4 days notice that a
hurricane is coming. In that time, you've got to face huge lineups at the
stores to get plywood, tarps, water, canned goods, and other stuff. Then
you've got to nail up the plywood and tarps to protect your house. Then
you've got to drive you and your family out of the danger area. At that
point, even if you had time to come back to the danger area to get the
plane, would you? The conditions are getting dangerous, and even the act
of returning is placing your life in danger, never mind trying to fly out
again.

It's stupid to put your life at risk to protect things. Things can be
replaced, your life can't.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Hardware, n.:
The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.

[nrp]

Did the ramp tiedown anchors or lines fail? Were any of the tie down
rings in the aircraft broken or pulled out? Were all 4 tie down rings
used (for that matter are there that many in your 152?)

Obviously a lot of damage was due to loose aircraft blowing around and
into each other, but the number that ended up inverted is staggering.

Assuming many A/C took a major storm wind blast from the front as well
as the rear, might exterior wood clamping systems on the control
surface have helped? There have to be some lessons here.

It is terrible to have to tie an airplane down outside. Really sorry
for your loss.

[Marty from Florida]

I originally planned on taking the plane north to Georgia, with a departure
on Friday, Oct. 21st. On Thursday the 20th, the storm had stalled and was
weakening over Mexico, with a possible landfall someone near my front
driveway at 2:00pm on Monday. Saturday the storm broke into the Gulf, and
NWS predicted it would weaken, arriving on Florida's west coast as a CAT one
hurricane. This normally means as it moves over land to our shores, it would
slow to a tropical storm. It didn't. The storm surge came in Sunday morning,
and by 11:00am the eye was over my kitchen. No wind, almost sunny. 30
minutes later, the backside of the storm rolled over, with an enormous
force. At least we don't get earthquakes (yet).

In terms of tie downs, I have one under each wing and at the tail. I used
nylon strap similar to seat belt material, and doubled up with nylon boat
rope. The wind was strong enough to tear all six straps. Never seen this
before. The entire field at Lantana was smashed.



"nrp" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Did the ramp tiedown anchors or lines fail? Were any of the tie down
> rings in the aircraft broken or pulled out? Were all 4 tie down rings
> used (for that matter are there that many in your 152?)
>
> Obviously a lot of damage was due to loose aircraft blowing around and
> into each other, but the number that ended up inverted is staggering.
>
> Assuming many A/C took a major storm wind blast from the front as well
> as the rear, might exterior wood clamping systems on the control
> surface have helped? There have to be some lessons here.
>
> It is terrible to have to tie an airplane down outside. Really sorry
> for your loss.
>

[Don Poitras]

nrp > wrote:
> Did the ramp tiedown anchors or lines fail? Were any of the tie down
> rings in the aircraft broken or pulled out? Were all 4 tie down rings
> used (for that matter are there that many in your 152?)

> Obviously a lot of damage was due to loose aircraft blowing around and
> into each other, but the number that ended up inverted is staggering.

> Assuming many A/C took a major storm wind blast from the front as well
> as the rear, might exterior wood clamping systems on the control
> surface have helped? There have to be some lessons here.

> It is terrible to have to tie an airplane down outside. Really sorry
> for your loss.

Doesn't look like some of the planes in hangers did much better...

[Skyhawk54]

John Doe wrote:
> Sorry for your loss, but why didn't you move it?
>
> I sure wouldn't let my plane sit there and risk it.




I agree, I wouldn't let mine to sit there and get destroyed either, to
me that is just being negligent. I would figure out someway of moving
it regardless.

[john smith]

> In terms of tie downs, I have one under each wing and at the tail. I used
> nylon strap similar to seat belt material, and doubled up with nylon boat
> rope. The wind was strong enough to tear all six straps. Never seen this
> before. The entire field at Lantana was smashed.

There has to be better tiedown material than nylon.
It elongates 20%-30%. Not good when you want to keep something in place.

[john smith]

> Did the ramp tiedown anchors or lines fail? Were any of the tie down
> rings in the aircraft broken or pulled out? Were all 4 tie down rings
> used (for that matter are there that many in your 152?)

Note the Beech Sierra/Musketeer that appears to have remained tied down.
Cannot tell if the aircraft behind damaged it.

[George Patterson]

Marty from Florida wrote:

> My Cessna was destroyed on Sunday by Hurricane Wilma, and I'm heart-broken.

My commiserations. Hope the insurance gives you no trouble.

What was in the hangar with the blue T-bird? Looks like an older jet warbird.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

[David Dyer-Bennet]

"Marty from Florida" <marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net> writes:

> It's Marty again from Wonderful Palm Beach Florida.
>
> My Cessna was destroyed on Sunday by Hurricane Wilma, and I'm heart-broken.
> I've uploaded some photos of Lantana Airport, with 3 images of my ex-pride
> and joy.
>
> www.worth.net/lantana

Very sorry to hear it. Those are some terrifying pictures.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, >, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/>
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Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
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[zatatime]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 03:49:29 GMT, George Patterson
> wrote:

>Marty from Florida wrote:
>
>> My Cessna was destroyed on Sunday by Hurricane Wilma, and I'm heart-broken.
>
>My commiserations. Hope the insurance gives you no trouble.
>
>What was in the hangar with the blue T-bird? Looks like an older jet warbird.
>
>George Patterson
> Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
> It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

I was wondering the same thing. Also from a selfish point of view,
one of the pics had a Cub in it. I could use some paperwork for a
project I'm working on, but I sure don't want to be a vulture waiting
in the wings.

z

[Daren & Wendy]

"Skyhawk54" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> John Doe wrote:
>> Sorry for your loss, but why didn't you move it?
>>
>> I sure wouldn't let my plane sit there and risk it.
>
>
>
>
> I agree, I wouldn't let mine to sit there and get destroyed either, to
> me that is just being negligent. I would figure out someway of moving
> it regardless.
>

Well, we can all look forward to helping guys like Marty get a new plane.
Atleast my insurance is locked in at my current rate for another 12
months.....

[Skyhawk54]

Unfortunally, my insurance expires in 3 months.
I hate to see what my next quote is going to be after all these
hurricanes. May drive me out of aircraft ownership. :(

[kristoffer-m20j]

I posted some pictures of HWO on my site http://homepage.mac.com/kristofferp/flying

Notice the Cessna that ripped in half with the tail still tied down!!

[George Patterson]

kristoffer-m20j wrote:

> Notice the Cessna that ripped in half with the tail still tied down!!

There's another one there where the main tie-downs held, but the tail tie-down
ring ripped out of the plane.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

[Mike Spera]

>>I agree, I wouldn't let mine to sit there and get destroyed either, to
>>me that is just being negligent. I would figure out someway of moving
>>it regardless.
>>
>

As the man said, there are priorities. He first needed to secure the
home and then move the family. For those who don't have either, maybe
moving the plane gets the top spot on the "to do list".

My insurance company will pay something like $500 for expenses to move
the plane out of harm's way. I might be able to get a ferry pilot to jog
the beast 300 miles or so one way for that amount. The insurers may want
to consider upping the paltry reimbursement to avoid THEIR potential
catastrophic loss.

No hurricanes up here in the Midwest, and tornadoes don't let you know 5
days in advance that they are on the way.

Cheers,
Mike

[Vaughn]

"Marty from Florida" <marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net> wrote in message
...
>I originally planned on taking the plane north to Georgia, with a departure
> on Friday, Oct. 21st. On Thursday the 20th, the storm had stalled and was
> weakening over Mexico, with a possible landfall someone near my front
> driveway at 2:00pm on Monday. Saturday the storm broke into the Gulf, and
> NWS predicted it would weaken, arriving on Florida's west coast as a CAT one
> hurricane. This normally means as it moves over land to our shores, it would
> slow to a tropical storm. It didn't.

Marty is exactly right. Using exactly the same logic after listening to
the same forecasts, I initially came to the decision to leave the shutters off
of my patio door (I live just east of Lantana airport). At sundown the day
before the storm, I came to my senses and installed the shutters in the dark.
Someone in Boca Raton left the shutter off of their patio door (like I almost
did) and was crushed when it blew in. Marty took a risk with an insured Cessna;
I was about to take that same risk with my home and my life. Which one of us is
the smarter?

Aircraft ownership cuts both ways. While preparing for our FIRST hurricane
last year, I was reflecting that I was happy to be a renter pilot because that
was one less thing to worry about. Three weeks later when the NEXT hurricane
was bearing down on us, I was thinking how nice it would be to own a plane so
that I could fly me and the Mrs. out of the path of the storm (the roads were
hopelessly jammed).

Sorry Marty. Glad you are OK. There are more airplanes out there.


Vaughn (Lantana FL)

[Peter R.]

Marty from Florida <marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net> wrote:

> My Cessna was destroyed on Sunday by Hurricane Wilma, and I'm heart-broken.
> I've uploaded some photos of Lantana Airport, with 3 images of my ex-pride
> and joy.

If it is any consolation, at least your aircraft didn't die alone.

Sorry for your loss.

--
Peter
























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Paul,

Sorry to hear about your loss.

I'll point out that YOU have FRIENDS here on usenet.

I suspect there are about 100 of us who (if asked on a usenet
posting) would find another buddy, fly down, pick up your airplane
and drop it several hundred miles inland, safe from harm.

Of course, you don't know me. You don't know if I would meet
the open pilot clause of your insurance policy. You don't
know if I would steal or destroy your airplane. You just
don't know.

Yet, I am here in Colorado, and I would have done this
for you if I had just known that I could be of some help
to a fellow rec.aviator.

Best regards,

Jer/ Eberhard, Colorado Pilot.

Paul Tomblin > wrote:
> In a previous article, "John Doe" > said:
> >Sorry for your loss, but why didn't you move it?
> >
> >I sure wouldn't let my plane sit there and risk it.

> We've been through this already. You get what, 3 or 4 days notice that a
> hurricane is coming. In that time, you've got to face huge lineups at the
> stores to get plywood, tarps, water, canned goods, and other stuff. Then
> you've got to nail up the plywood and tarps to protect your house. Then
> you've got to drive you and your family out of the danger area. At that
> point, even if you had time to come back to the danger area to get the
> plane, would you? The conditions are getting dangerous, and even the act
> of returning is placing your life in danger, never mind trying to fly out
> again.

> It's stupid to put your life at risk to protect things. Things can be
> replaced, your life can't.


Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction/mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

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Looks bad... probably the wind was over the redline of the
airplane and not from the frontside! Did a snap roll in place.

Good luck. Bill Hale