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Paul Tomblin
October 28th 05, 04:14 PM
I subscribe to WxServer so that I can quickly check the radar and
satellite pictures on my cell phone if I find myself at an airport without
a wireless internet connection or a DTN server. But I just got a Treo,
and it has a real web browser in it. I can get the Intellicast radar
picture for free, but that has a bazillion screenfuls of other crap before
you get to the actual radar picture. Is there a place to get radar
without all the other links, advertising, etc?

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October 28th 05, 05:08 PM
Paul Tomblin wrote:

> you get to the actual radar picture. Is there a place to get radar
> without all the other links, advertising, etc?

How about http://mobile.srh.noaa.gov/ ?

--Tom

Paul Tomblin
October 28th 05, 06:23 PM
In a previous article, said:
>Paul Tomblin wrote:
>> you get to the actual radar picture. Is there a place to get radar
>> without all the other links, advertising, etc?
>
>How about http://mobile.srh.noaa.gov/ ?

Perfect. Thanks.


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Kyler Laird
October 28th 05, 11:17 PM
(Paul Tomblin) writes:

>I subscribe to WxServer so that I can quickly check the radar and
>satellite pictures on my cell phone if I find myself at an airport without
>a wireless internet connection or a DTN server. But I just got a Treo,
>and it has a real web browser in it. I can get the Intellicast radar
>picture for free, but that has a bazillion screenfuls of other crap before
>you get to the actual radar picture. Is there a place to get radar
>without all the other links, advertising, etc?

Is what the NOAA directly provides sufficient? Enjoy it while you can.
http://www.betanews.com/article/print/Bill_Proposes_Ending_Free_Weather_Data/1114178376

--kyler

October 29th 05, 10:31 AM
Kyler Laird wrote:

> pIs what the NOAA directly provides sufficient? Enjoy it while you can.
> http://www.betanews.com/article/print/Bill_Proposes_Ending_Free_Weather_Data/1114178376
>
> --kyler

I cannot retrieve the article you posted so I don't know what it says. Having said that, NEXRAD is
available for general NWS.NOAA weather services through the national portal www.nws.noaa.gov. That
portal is primarily for community and public safety purposes.

The radar is a vital component of public service for the general welfare of the public at large.
Making it a fee service, at least through that general portal wouldn't be much different than
denying free access to the national hurricane center and its essential bulletins, tracking
services, and forecast.

Somehow I don't believe either would pass the sniff test in view of the FEMA fiascos with Katrina,
Rita, and to a lesser extent Wilma. I suspect state and local public safety and emergency planning
response organizations would go ballistic with the loss of those vital services.

I don't believe King George or his lackies in Congress would be able to stand the heat on that one.

Ron Lee
October 29th 05, 11:15 AM
wrote:
>
>Somehow I don't believe either would pass the sniff test in view of the FEMA fiascos with Katrina,
>Rita, and to a lesser extent Wilma. I suspect state and local public safety and emergency planning
>response organizations would go ballistic with the loss of those vital services.
>
>I don't believe King George or his lackies in Congress would be able to stand the heat on that one.
>

Tim, the real problem with the hurricanes you mention is that people
did not take responsibility for themselves or basic needs during/after
a hurricane. Don't blame the feds (FEMA) for personal
irresponsibility. If you feel that the government should hand hold
everyone then that same government should be able to dictate every
move you make, every decision,every purchase, etc.

Either you believe in personal freedom and the responsibility for
yourself that it entails..or you belong in a socialist country.
Frankly, your viewpoint is not what made America great.

Ron Lee

October 29th 05, 03:08 PM
Ron Lee wrote:

> wrote:
>
> >
>
> Tim, the real problem with the hurricanes you mention is that people
> did not take responsibility for themselves or basic needs during/after
> a hurricane. Don't blame the feds (FEMA) for personal
> irresponsibility. If you feel that the government should hand hold
> everyone then that same government should be able to dictate every
> move you make, every decision,every purchase, etc.

I was commenting on the political landscape and how it pertains to the retention of freely available
weather data for both the general public and aviation interests.

The characterization of the federal government's failures is the widely-held view and even admitted by
Bush in the aftermath of Katrina. That was my context for my view that NEXRAD is not about to go on a
fee basis any time soon.

I personally don't have sufficient information to know what FEMA did, or did not do, nor what people
could have done for themselves that they didn't do.

I wasn't there. Were you?

>
>
> Either you believe in personal freedom and the responsibility for
> yourself that it entails..or you belong in a socialist country.
> Frankly, your viewpoint is not what made America great.
>

You must be a hair-trigger right-winger. I did not express any personal views about anything other than
my understanding of the common preception in the press and in the Congress. That was MY context, and
for the purpose of showing linkage to the availability of weather products.

The best self-helpers would be at a great loss without access to the national hurrican center's web
site.

I can't believe my post caused a rabid personal attack like your's.

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