non-owner insurance

[Matt Whiting]

Does anyone know of a company/agent who will write a $1MM non-owner
policy with $500K/seat rather than the typical $100K/seat?

Matt

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On 28-Oct-2005, Matt Whiting > wrote:

> Does anyone know of a company/agent who will write a $1MM non-owner
> policy with $500K/seat rather than the typical $100K/seat?



Check with an insurance broker that specializes in aviation. Here's one in
the Seattle area:

http://www.westarinsurance.com/aviationInsurance.html

--
-Elliott Drucker

[Matt Whiting]

wrote:

> On 28-Oct-2005, Matt Whiting > wrote:
>
>
>>Does anyone know of a company/agent who will write a $1MM non-owner
>>policy with $500K/seat rather than the typical $100K/seat?
>
>
>
>
> Check with an insurance broker that specializes in aviation. Here's one in
> the Seattle area:
>
> http://www.westarinsurance.com/aviationInsurance.html
>

I've checked with AOPA/Avemco and four other aviation brokers and so far
haven't found anyone who will go above $100K/seat. I was hoping someone
else actually had such coverage and could tell me how they obtained it.
My company has a program to let you fly GA on business trips, but one
of their requirements is 1,000,000/500,000 coverage.

When I owned a Skylane, me and my partner had insurance that he'd
obtained by virtue, I believe, of being a veteran (Naval aviator)
through a company I can't recall now. We had $1MM smooth for only
$1,200 per year. However, I've not found a company that will write
anything close to that since 9/11.

Matt

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On 29-Oct-2005, Matt Whiting > wrote:

> When I owned a Skylane, me and my partner had insurance that he'd
> obtained by virtue, I believe, of being a veteran (Naval aviator)
> through a company I can't recall now. We had $1MM smooth for only
> $1,200 per year. However, I've not found a company that will write
> anything close to that since 9/11.


My co-owners and I have $1 million "smooth" liability coverage from AIG
Aviation for our '79 Arrow IV. We do pay a few hundred dollars extra per
year for this coverage, but we've never had any problem getting it. For
what it's worth, all three co-owners are instrument rated and have at least
500 hrs total time. Based upon what our broker told us, the IR may make a
difference in being able to get the "smooth" coverage.

--
-Elliott Drucker

[Matt Whiting]

wrote:

> On 29-Oct-2005, Matt Whiting > wrote:
>
>
>>When I owned a Skylane, me and my partner had insurance that he'd
>>obtained by virtue, I believe, of being a veteran (Naval aviator)
>>through a company I can't recall now. We had $1MM smooth for only
>>$1,200 per year. However, I've not found a company that will write
>>anything close to that since 9/11.
>
>
>
> My co-owners and I have $1 million "smooth" liability coverage from AIG
> Aviation for our '79 Arrow IV. We do pay a few hundred dollars extra per
> year for this coverage, but we've never had any problem getting it. For
> what it's worth, all three co-owners are instrument rated and have at least
> 500 hrs total time. Based upon what our broker told us, the IR may make a
> difference in being able to get the "smooth" coverage.
>

I'm IR also with more than 500 hrs. Who is your broker?

Thanks,
MAtt

[Matt Whiting]

wrote:

> On 29-Oct-2005, Matt Whiting > wrote:
>
>
>>When I owned a Skylane, me and my partner had insurance that he'd
>>obtained by virtue, I believe, of being a veteran (Naval aviator)
>>through a company I can't recall now. We had $1MM smooth for only
>>$1,200 per year. However, I've not found a company that will write
>>anything close to that since 9/11.
>
>
>
> My co-owners and I have $1 million "smooth" liability coverage from AIG
> Aviation for our '79 Arrow IV. We do pay a few hundred dollars extra per
> year for this coverage, but we've never had any problem getting it. For
> what it's worth, all three co-owners are instrument rated and have at least
> 500 hrs total time. Based upon what our broker told us, the IR may make a
> difference in being able to get the "smooth" coverage.

Interesting. I wonder if this is a new vs. longstanding policy issue.
I just went back through my email records of companies I had contacted
previously about this and AIG is one that told me no way. Here's the
message:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Novak, Jeff wrote:

>The highest limits we would consider for a fixed wing piston aircraft
>is $1,000,000 aggregate with $100,000 per passenger.
>
>AIG Aviation, Inc.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Whiting ]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:50 PM
>To:
>Subject: Non-owner liability coverage limit question.
>
>Hello,
>
>My employer allows employees to fly general aviation aircraft on
>company business trips. However, to participate requires that the
>employee carry $1,000,000 of liability coverage with at least $500,000
>per seat. Do you offer seat limits this high?
>
>Regards,
>Matt Whiting

>570-827-0864
>

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On 29-Oct-2005, Matt Whiting > wrote:

> I'm IR also with more than 500 hrs. Who is your broker?


C. Don Filer in Seattle. Phone: 206-545-4800. Talk to Shari Lofquist.

--
-Elliott Drucker