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Scott Moore
November 1st 05, 04:25 PM
This appeared in the latest issue of AOPA Pilot:
http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/elitemain.php
Its an all electronic ADI with EFIS display. They say they are
currently engaged in certification. What do you guys think about
the prospects for use as a primary AI for a standard airplane like
my 172N ?
I emailed them, they said it would be ok after they get certified.
This seems a damm sight better than my idea to upgrade to an
electric AI. Its fully self contained, having its own inertial
and GPS guidance, and even has a mangemometer for compass heading
that is gyro stabilised.
These things work internally by having accellerometers to sense
direction change, then use the GPS to "upright" the inertial
calculation, which is one reason why it needs a built in GPS.
This means it has no rotating parts whatever, cannot spill, etc.
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Marco Leon
November 1st 05, 07:58 PM
I wouldn't count on the certified version retaining the $2,800 price tag...
MArco Leon
"Scott Moore" > wrote in message
...
> This appeared in the latest issue of AOPA Pilot:
>
> http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/elitemain.php
>
> Its an all electronic ADI with EFIS display. They say they are
> currently engaged in certification. What do you guys think about
> the prospects for use as a primary AI for a standard airplane like
> my 172N ?
>
> I emailed them, they said it would be ok after they get certified.
>
> This seems a damm sight better than my idea to upgrade to an
> electric AI. Its fully self contained, having its own inertial
> and GPS guidance, and even has a mangemometer for compass heading
> that is gyro stabilised.
>
> These things work internally by having accellerometers to sense
> direction change, then use the GPS to "upright" the inertial
> calculation, which is one reason why it needs a built in GPS.
>
> This means it has no rotating parts whatever, cannot spill, etc.
>
> --
> Samiam is Scott A. Moore
>
> Personal web site: http:/www.moorecad.com/scott
> My electronics engineering consulting site: http://www.moorecad.com
> ISO 7185 Standard Pascal web site: http://www.moorecad.com/standardpascal
> Classic Basic Games web site: http://www.moorecad.com/classicbasic
> The IP Pascal web site, a high performance, highly portable ISO 7185
Pascal
> compiler system: http://www.moorecad.com/ippas
>
> Good does not always win. But good is more patient.
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Scott Moore
November 1st 05, 08:04 PM
Marco Leon wrote On 11/01/05 11:58,:
> I wouldn't count on the certified version retaining the $2,800 price tag...
>
> MArco Leon
>
Yea, I was wondering about that.
paul kgyy
November 1st 05, 09:01 PM
This is one of the reasons I've been holding off on backup AI
installation - this has to be the shape of the future.
Wizard of Draws
November 2nd 05, 02:24 AM
On 11/1/05 11:25 AM, in article , "Scott
Moore" > wrote:
> This appeared in the latest issue of AOPA Pilot:
>
> http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/elitemain.php
>
> Its an all electronic ADI with EFIS display. They say they are
> currently engaged in certification. What do you guys think about
> the prospects for use as a primary AI for a standard airplane like
> my 172N ?
>
> I emailed them, they said it would be ok after they get certified.
>
> This seems a damm sight better than my idea to upgrade to an
> electric AI. Its fully self contained, having its own inertial
> and GPS guidance, and even has a mangemometer for compass heading
> that is gyro stabilised.
>
> These things work internally by having accellerometers to sense
> direction change, then use the GPS to "upright" the inertial
> calculation, which is one reason why it needs a built in GPS.
>
> This means it has no rotating parts whatever, cannot spill, etc.
Ask me who created the airplane icons used in the displays. :) I think if
you ask them, you might be able to get an icon customized to your plane
model.
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Andrew Gideon
November 7th 05, 07:06 PM
paul kgyy wrote:
> This is one of the reasons I've been holding off on backup AI
> installation - this has to be the shape of the future.
Another reason being that at least some "backup AIs" tumble. That makes it
unsuitable as a TC replacement, even if only in my opinion <grin>.
- Andrew
Scott D
November 7th 05, 10:56 PM
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:25:24 -0800, Scott Moore >
wrote:
>This appeared in the latest issue of AOPA Pilot:
>
>http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/elitemain.php
>
>Its an all electronic ADI with EFIS display. They say they are
>currently engaged in certification. What do you guys think about
>the prospects for use as a primary AI for a standard airplane like
>my 172N ?
>
>I emailed them, they said it would be ok after they get certified.
>
>This seems a damm sight better than my idea to upgrade to an
>electric AI. Its fully self contained, having its own inertial
>and GPS guidance, and even has a mangemometer for compass heading
>that is gyro stabilised.
>
>These things work internally by having accellerometers to sense
>direction change, then use the GPS to "upright" the inertial
>calculation, which is one reason why it needs a built in GPS.
>
>This means it has no rotating parts whatever, cannot spill, etc.
When Blue Mountain had an office here in COS, I got to go in and see
this thing actually work. It was real nice. But I got the impression
that they were not going to seek certification anytime soon due to the
amount of money it was going to cost them to get it certified. They
seemed happy to sell it to experimental aircraft and I believe that
there are a few planes around my area that went through the process of
getting STC'd but they are for VFR use only.
Scott D.
Scott Moore
November 8th 05, 12:10 AM
Scott D wrote On 11/07/05 14:56,:
> On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:25:24 -0800, Scott Moore >
> wrote:
>
>
>>This appeared in the latest issue of AOPA Pilot:
>>
>>http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/elitemain.php
>>
>>Its an all electronic ADI with EFIS display. They say they are
>>currently engaged in certification. What do you guys think about
>>the prospects for use as a primary AI for a standard airplane like
>>my 172N ?
>>
>>I emailed them, they said it would be ok after they get certified.
>>
>>This seems a damm sight better than my idea to upgrade to an
>>electric AI. Its fully self contained, having its own inertial
>>and GPS guidance, and even has a mangemometer for compass heading
>>that is gyro stabilised.
>>
>>These things work internally by having accellerometers to sense
>>direction change, then use the GPS to "upright" the inertial
>>calculation, which is one reason why it needs a built in GPS.
>>
>>This means it has no rotating parts whatever, cannot spill, etc.
>
>
> When Blue Mountain had an office here in COS, I got to go in and see
> this thing actually work. It was real nice. But I got the impression
> that they were not going to seek certification anytime soon due to the
> amount of money it was going to cost them to get it certified. They
> seemed happy to sell it to experimental aircraft and I believe that
> there are a few planes around my area that went through the process of
> getting STC'd but they are for VFR use only.
>
>
> Scott D.
Their web site says they are working on certification, and plan on 2006
to finish that. They told me by email that it was costing them a lot.
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