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Michael Ware
November 27th 05, 03:57 PM
Thanks, Jim!

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> For those of us who subscribe to the NACO charts (government charts, vfr
or
> ifr), you can now do it online directly with the National Aeronautical
> Charting Office. Cheaper than subscriptions through other vendors because
> the prices include delivery. http://www.naco.faa.gov/ no more phone
> calls, faxes or emails required.
>
> Jim
>
>

Jim Burns
November 27th 05, 05:17 PM
For those of us who subscribe to the NACO charts (government charts, vfr or
ifr), you can now do it online directly with the National Aeronautical
Charting Office. Cheaper than subscriptions through other vendors because
the prices include delivery. http://www.naco.faa.gov/ no more phone
calls, faxes or emails required.

Jim

BTIZ
November 27th 05, 05:43 PM
unless they have changed.. subscriptions run for one year.. and if you need
to add a chart of change a chart.. that is a new subscription.. can't modify
the "existing order"..

with commercial vendors you can...

you get what you pay for..

BT

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> For those of us who subscribe to the NACO charts (government charts, vfr
> or
> ifr), you can now do it online directly with the National Aeronautical
> Charting Office. Cheaper than subscriptions through other vendors because
> the prices include delivery. http://www.naco.faa.gov/ no more phone
> calls, faxes or emails required.
>
> Jim
>
>

vincent p. norris
November 28th 05, 02:15 AM
>you get what you pay for..

Nothing could be further from the truth!

You often pay for far more than you get!

A higher price does not always get you more than a lower price.

vince norris

Roy Smith
November 28th 05, 02:17 AM
In article >,
vincent p. norris > wrote:

> >you get what you pay for..
>
> Nothing could be further from the truth!
>
> You often pay for far more than you get!
>
> A higher price does not always get you more than a lower price.
>
> vince norris

And free does not always get you less than paying for something (especially
in software).

Robert M. Gary
December 1st 05, 12:04 AM
How is that different from AOPA? The only thing I didn't like about
AOPA was that they download you each chart as a pdf. However, I found
software to mege them into one pdf and therefor put two charts on a
paper and print them all at once.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary
December 1st 05, 12:05 AM
The only reason its "free" is because you, taxpayer, already paid for
it.

Mitty
December 1st 05, 12:18 AM
On 11/30/2005 6:04 PM, Robert M. Gary wrote the following:
> How is that different from AOPA? The only thing I didn't like about
> AOPA was that they download you each chart as a pdf. However, I found
> software to mege them into one pdf and therefor put two charts on a
> paper and print them all at once.
>
> -Robert

Actually there is now (possibly temporarily) some very good,
free, software to get and manage plates:

http://www.cmensys.com/trippack/

The author posted a link here a few weeks ago but has been
doing quite a bit of upgrading and debugging since. I am
now using it instead of SmartPlates, which I also have.
Trip Pack is smaller and faster than SmartPlates and it does
a clearer job rendering the plates for my printer.

You can print two-up plates directly from the app.
Supplement it with FinePrint (www.fineprint.com) and you can
print your own booklet containing whatever plates you want.
Add the $20 Jepp (aka "Classic") punch from
franklincovey.com and you are in the plates publishing business.

December 1st 05, 12:37 PM
In rec.aviation.owning Mitty > wrote:

: On 11/30/2005 6:04 PM, Robert M. Gary wrote the following:
: > How is that different from AOPA? The only thing I didn't like about
: > AOPA was that they download you each chart as a pdf. However, I found
: > software to mege them into one pdf and therefor put two charts on a
: > paper and print them all at once.
: >
: > -Robert

: Actually there is now (possibly temporarily) some very good,
: free, software to get and manage plates:

: http://www.cmensys.com/trippack/

It doesn't look free... there's a demo available... perhaps that's what you
mean.

It also looks like it's Winders-only. Doesn't help me.

Since we, as taxpayers, have already paid to produce this information,
I think there should be a means of providing it en-masse. With bittorrents all the
rage these days, bandwidth to mirror that data isn't that big of a deal. If anyone
knows of place to download the whole mess, I'd be glad to hear about it.

-Cory

--

************************************************** ***********************
* Cory Papenfuss *
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University *
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Jim Burns
December 1st 05, 02:01 PM
I'm not talking about a downloadable chart or pdf I'm talking about paper
chart subscriptions that you get in the mail. NACO used to make you either
call, fax, or mail your subscription order to them... OR you could buy them
through a vendor. Now you can buy the charts and chart subscriptions
through an online interface.

Jim


"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> How is that different from AOPA? The only thing I didn't like about
> AOPA was that they download you each chart as a pdf. However, I found
> software to mege them into one pdf and therefor put two charts on a
> paper and print them all at once.
>
> -Robert
>

Chris G.
December 1st 05, 09:29 PM
Jim,

At http://www.mypilotstore.com, I pay less for folded paper charts than
NACO and all folded paper charts get free shipping. I'm very happy with
them and their service. I typically get my charts 3-5 days before the
old ones expire.

Chris


Jim Burns wrote:
> I'm not talking about a downloadable chart or pdf I'm talking about paper
> chart subscriptions that you get in the mail. NACO used to make you either
> call, fax, or mail your subscription order to them... OR you could buy them
> through a vendor. Now you can buy the charts and chart subscriptions
> through an online interface.
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>How is that different from AOPA? The only thing I didn't like about
>>AOPA was that they download you each chart as a pdf. However, I found
>>software to mege them into one pdf and therefor put two charts on a
>>paper and print them all at once.
>>
>>-Robert
>>
>
>
>

Jim Burns
December 1st 05, 10:09 PM
Cool! Thanks. I saw another vendor advertiseing discounted charts, but
then they had a $2.00 delivery charge PER CHART! This looks like a pretty
good deal.
Thanks
Jim

"Chris G." > wrote in message
reenews.net...
> Jim,
>
> At http://www.mypilotstore.com, I pay less for folded paper charts than
> NACO and all folded paper charts get free shipping. I'm very happy with
> them and their service. I typically get my charts 3-5 days before the
> old ones expire.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Jim Burns wrote:
> > I'm not talking about a downloadable chart or pdf I'm talking about
paper
> > chart subscriptions that you get in the mail. NACO used to make you
either
> > call, fax, or mail your subscription order to them... OR you could buy
them
> > through a vendor. Now you can buy the charts and chart subscriptions
> > through an online interface.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >
> >>How is that different from AOPA? The only thing I didn't like about
> >>AOPA was that they download you each chart as a pdf. However, I found
> >>software to mege them into one pdf and therefor put two charts on a
> >>paper and print them all at once.
> >>
> >>-Robert
> >>
> >
> >
> >

Mark Hansen
December 1st 05, 10:10 PM
On 12/1/2005 14:09, Jim Burns wrote:

> Cool! Thanks. I saw another vendor advertiseing discounted charts, but
> then they had a $2.00 delivery charge PER CHART! This looks like a pretty
> good deal.
> Thanks
> Jim

I use Pilot Portal because they have a really cheap delivery cost
for the A/FD as well (which I also have on subscription). I think
it's $1. YMMV

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