What do YOU want for Xmas?

[Jay Honeck]

As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual, I
have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.

Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this newsgroup.
What do *you* want for Xmas this year? What's the latest, greatest,
coolest, must-have aviation thing that I should want under my tree this
year?

I'll list a few things that I'm not likely to receive, just to get the ball
rolling:

1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")

2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL looking
for one...)

3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
home movies onto DVD....

Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Whiting]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual, I
> have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.
>
> Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this newsgroup.
> What do *you* want for Xmas this year? What's the latest, greatest,
> coolest, must-have aviation thing that I should want under my tree this
> year?
>
> I'll list a few things that I'm not likely to receive, just to get the ball
> rolling:
>
> 1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
> supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")
>
> 2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL looking
> for one...)
>
> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
> home movies onto DVD....
>
> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?

An airplane. Any airplane ... well, anything but a low-wing ... unless
it is a Bo! :-)

Matt

[Greg B]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?

Money! Preferably in APU's...

:-)

[Leonard Ellis]

One gizmo that our eldest daughter and her husband gave me a while back is a
LED head-band flashlight, which is very comfortable to wear under the
headset. Should the lighting fail at night, it provides excellent
illumination on the panel. It is also a very convenient hands-free light
for refueling our C172 in the dark. Highly recommended.

Happy Holidays!
Leonard Ellis
Dallas, TX

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
> As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual,
> I have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.
>
> Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this
> newsgroup. What do *you* want for Xmas this year? What's the latest,
> greatest, coolest, must-have aviation thing that I should want under my
> tree this year?
>
> I'll list a few things that I'm not likely to receive, just to get the
> ball rolling:
>
> 1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
> supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")
>
> 2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL
> looking for one...)
>
> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
> home movies onto DVD....
>
> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:36:53 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote in
<F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71>::

>What do *you* want for Xmas this year?

A turbine powered Helio Stallion:
http://www.helioaircraft.com/ourplanes_stallion.htm
The Helio Stallion is a 10-place single-engine turboprop bush/utility
aircraft. The Stallion features a 750 shaft horsepower Pratt & Whitney
PT6A turbo-prop engine. The plane is designed to be fully maneuverable
and controllable at 37 knots and has a cruise speed of 175 knots. The
turbine engine allows the aircraft to be operated around the globe
without worries of avgas availability or cost. The new Helio Stallion
has an estimated useful load of 3,000 pounds and a range of over 1,000
nautical miles with standard fuel capacity. The Stallion is designed
for takeoff and landing distances under 350 feet while carrying 1,700
pounds of payload.


PERFORMANCE AND SPECIFICATIONS

DIMENSIONS
Length overall - 39' 7"
Wing Span over tip tanks - 41' 9"
Height - 9' 3" (conventional gear) and 16' 7" (tricycle gear)

POWER PLANT
Engine Pratt & Whitney PT6A-34 750 SHP
Propeller Hartzell 101 inch 3-blade, reversing

WEIGHT AND LOAD
Gross weight 6,100 lbs
Empty weight 3,100 lbs
Useful load 3,000 lbs
Seating Capacity 10
(pilot/passengers)

TAKEOFF DISTANCE
Sea Level, ISA
Ground run 320 feet
Distance over 50 ft 750 feet
RATE OF CLIMB
2,200 ft/min

SPEED
Minimum, Fully Maneuverable S.L. 37 kts
Maximum Cruise (at 10,000 ft.) 188 kts
Normal Cruise (13,000 ft. / 280 pph fuel burn) 175 kts
Long range cruise 140 kts

RANGE (long range cruise)
1,050 nm (223 U.S. Gallons - tip tanks installed)

SERVICE CEILING
29,000 ft.

[Ben Jackson]

On 2005-12-16, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual, I
> have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.

My mom said she knew just what to get me when I was ten. So I suggested
that she pick out something I would have loved at age ten, give it to a
toy drive and send me a card with a note telling me what it was and why
she picked it out for "me".

Of course she's my mom, so she'll do that AND send me something. But at
least I'm off the hook for making a list!

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

[John Doe]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
> As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual,
> I have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.
>
> Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this
> newsgroup. What do *you* want for Xmas this year? What's the latest,
> greatest, coolest, must-have aviation thing that I should want under my
> tree this year?
>
> I'll list a few things that I'm not likely to receive, just to get the
> ball rolling:
>
> 1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
> supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")
>
> 2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL
> looking for one...)
>
> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
> home movies onto DVD....
>
> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
> --

Garmin 396
Icom A6
Oxygen System
6 place intercom upgrade
oh hell, how about a P-51

[daffy]

Peace and Quiet

[cjcampbell]

I also would like an airplane, perhaps a Diamond DA-42 or a Caravan on
floats.

And um, world peace.

[Flyingmonk]

My air space back over Washington, DC.

[John Ousterhout]

Larry Dighera wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:36:53 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote
>>What do *you* want for Xmas this year?

> A turbine powered Helio Stallion:
> http://www.helioaircraft.com/ourplanes_stallion.htm

Wow!

And all I wished for was a (turbo normalized) Cessna 206.

However I'll settle for 40 hours in a rental C-172.

- J.O.-

[Larry Dighera]

On 15 Dec 2005 18:09:28 -0800, "cjcampbell"
> wrote in
. com>::

>
>And um, world peace.

Ah! Even better: World Enlightenment. That would assure world peace
and much more. The first person who needs the gift of enlightenment
is: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/08/iran.israel.reut/
Iran leader: Move Israel to Europe
Ahmadinejad casts doubt on Holocaust

Thursday, December 8, 2005; Posted: 4:50 p.m. EST (21:50 GMT)

TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) -- Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has
expressed doubt that the Holocaust occurred and suggested Israel
be moved to Europe.

His comments, reported by Iran's official IRNA news agency from a
news conference he gave on Thursday in the Saudi Arabian city of
Mecca, follows his call in October for Israel to be "wiped off the
map," which sparked widespread international condemnation.

"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed
millions of innocent Jews in furnaces ...

I never expected to see a national leader exceed the embarrassment
that our own confers on our noble nation.

[Flyingmonk]

Are you attempting to hijack this aviation related thread Larry? Shame
on you... :^)

[Michelle P]

Wxworx for my PDA.
Michelle

Jay Honeck wrote:

>As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual, I
>have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.
>
>Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this newsgroup.
>What do *you* want for Xmas this year? What's the latest, greatest,
>coolest, must-have aviation thing that I should want under my tree this
>year?
>
>I'll list a few things that I'm not likely to receive, just to get the ball
>rolling:
>
>1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
>supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")
>
>2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL looking
>for one...)
>
>3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
>home movies onto DVD....
>
>Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
>
>

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:27:13 GMT, John Ousterhout
> wrote in
<5Cpof.649753$xm3.49850@attbi_s21>::

>Larry Dighera wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:36:53 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote
>>>What do *you* want for Xmas this year?
>
>> A turbine powered Helio Stallion:
>> http://www.helioaircraft.com/ourplanes_stallion.htm
>
>Wow!

The way I see it, Helio Stallion is a good choice because it is
suitable for about any mission I would expect to fly. But I'm a
little concerned about the weight of the 223 U.S. Gallons of fuel it
burns at 280 pounds/hour. That's 1,680 lbs (7.5 hours @ ~$140/hr)
that reduces over half the useful load, but with full fuel, the
payload is still 1,320 lbs. That's probably enough payload load for
about anything I'd want to do.

Being a conventional gear aircraft, it could operate from unpaved
fields without chewing up the propeller too badly. It would be fun to
drop in on main street in some of the old ghost towns out west. And
the 320 foot takeoff distance would permit me to operate in and out of
my cousin's Mojave ranch.

It would also be useful for my interest in paleontology. The hatch in
the floor would enable me to seriously consider aerial photography.
And the 175 knot cruise speed would speed up my cross country travel
by 40% - 50%. I wander what the insurance premium would be. If the
real estate market doesn't collapse, who knows ...

>And all I wished for was a (turbo normalized) Cessna 206.

That's a nice ship too, and probably a lot cheaper to operate.

>However I'll settle for 40 hours in a rental C-172.

That would be a useful gift too.

You know what Mick Jagger said, "You can't always get what you want,
but if you try, sometimes you can get what you need." I'm tryin'.

[Jose]

> What do *you* want for Christmas?

You gonna get it for me? :)

I wonder what a DVD recorder has to do with aviation though.

Jose
--
You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Jim Burns]

A nice VFR weekend, preferably THIS weekend, so I don't have to worry about
icing. Have you seen the forecast? It's no longer expected to improve as
fast as I'd hoped. This late fall flying season truly truly sucks.

I'd ask for a "warm" weekend but that would be pushing it, I'd just settle
for a nice sunny VFR weekend for some great cross country flying to see
friends.

Beyond that, I've already submitted my list of little items to Santa....
mostly tools that for some reason I"ve never got around to buying for myself
but kick myself every time I need them.

I'd buy myself one of the XM weather "boxes" if I could get somebody to pay
the subscription each year.... THAT would truly be a XM(mas) present!!! :)

Jim

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
> As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual,
I
> have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.
>
> Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this
newsgroup.
> What do *you* want for Xmas this year? What's the latest, greatest,
> coolest, must-have aviation thing that I should want under my tree this
> year?
>
> I'll list a few things that I'm not likely to receive, just to get the
ball
> rolling:
>
> 1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
> supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")
>
> 2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL
looking
> for one...)
>
> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
> home movies onto DVD....
>
> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[BTIZ]

I'd like a Garim 430... you can wrap it with a Husky.

BT


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
> As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual,
> I have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.
>
> Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this
> newsgroup. What do *you* want for Xmas this year? What's the latest,
> greatest, coolest, must-have aviation thing that I should want under my
> tree this year?
>
> I'll list a few things that I'm not likely to receive, just to get the
> ball rolling:
>
> 1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
> supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")
>
> 2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL
> looking for one...)
>
> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
> home movies onto DVD....
>
> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[George Patterson]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this newsgroup.
> What do *you* want for Xmas this year?

A Cessna 310 and the money to operate it for a year (next year's funding will be
next year's present).

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

[Jay Beckman]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
<SNIP>

> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
> --
> Jay Honeck

Anything and everything from:

www.historicaviation.com

Got their catalog and I was like a kid in a candy store.

Jay B

[Rob]

Jim Burns wrote:
> Have you seen the forecast? It's no longer expected to improve as
> fast as I'd hoped. This late fall flying season truly truly sucks.

I know I'll pay for this next summer...

KSDL 152253Z 27004KT 10SM CLR 16/M17 A2986 RMK AO2 SLP102 T01611167

KPHX 152340Z 160024 VRB03KT P6SM BKN150 OVC200
FM0400 VRB05KT P6SM SCT150 BKN200
FM1400 VRB05KT P6SM SCT200
FM2100 26005KT P6SM SCT250

:)

-R

[Montblack]

("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
> home movies onto DVD....
>
> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?


Your DVD recorder! <g>


Montblack

[Matt Barrow]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
> As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual,
> I have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.
>
I need nothing...I want everything.
>
> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
> home movies onto DVD....


>
> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?

Cuban cigars, new knees, a Beretta S687 Silver Pigeon Sporting Clays
shotgun,and a ICOM IC-A24 transceiver.

Matt B.

[Matt Barrow]

> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...

>> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years
>> of home movies onto DVD....
>
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=188423&CatId=1424

[Blanche]

A job.

Then I can buy my own toys, thank you.

[Jon Kraus]

do ya mean AMU's?

Aviation Monetary Units 1 AMU = $1,000

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ TYQ

Greg B wrote:
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
>
>>Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
>
>
> Money! Preferably in APU's...
>
> :-)
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> we don't exchange useless stuff (AKA x-mas presents) in our family for
> years. We spend some time together and try having a good time.

Well, with our kids I don't mind. However, I proposed holding that kind of
Christmas with my sisters a few years ago (ages 59 and 56, by the way), and
you'd have thought I was trying to steal their favorite teddy bears.

So, onward we march, into consumer heaven...

:-(
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Montblack]

("Jon Kraus" wrote)
> do ya mean AMU's?
>
> Aviation Monetary Units 1 AMU = $1,000

>> Money! Preferably in APU's...


I thought he wanted a turbine Mooney...

....which would then make possible me finding *his* Ercoupe in *my* driveway,
with a big red bow wrapped around it.


Montblack :-)

[Stubby]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>>we don't exchange useless stuff (AKA x-mas presents) in our family for
>>years. We spend some time together and try having a good time.
>
>
> Well, with our kids I don't mind. However, I proposed holding that kind of
> Christmas with my sisters a few years ago (ages 59 and 56, by the way), and
> you'd have thought I was trying to steal their favorite teddy bears.
>
> So, onward we march, into consumer heaven...

You're a good American, Jay. Remember the current Christmas
celebration with all the gift-giving was invented in the 1930's as a way
to start the country climbing out of the Great Depression.

In colonial days the idea of decorations and gifts would have been a
sacrilege.

[Matt Barrow]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:fWzof.625267$x96.498593@attbi_s72...
>> we don't exchange useless stuff (AKA x-mas presents) in our family for
>> years. We spend some time together and try having a good time.
>
> Well, with our kids I don't mind. However, I proposed holding that kind
> of Christmas with my sisters a few years ago (ages 59 and 56, by the way),
> and you'd have thought I was trying to steal their favorite teddy bears.
>
> So, onward we march, into consumer heaven...
>
Well, enjoy it the way YOU (and family) want to and don't let anyone shove
their notions on you.

This year my family is going to meet all the in-laws at Grandma's
(Scottsdale, AZ) and the guest of honor will be my son, Michael, home for
his first Christmas with family since going active duty with the Navy in
2002.

Make the most of every year. This is likely going to be Grandma's last one
with us.

Like the old adage: Do it YOUR way!!


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

[Matt Barrow]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Jon Kraus" wrote)
>> do ya mean AMU's?
>>
>> Aviation Monetary Units 1 AMU = $1,000
>
>>> Money! Preferably in APU's...
>
>
> I thought he wanted a turbine Mooney...
>
> ...which would then make possible me finding *his* Ercoupe in *my*
> driveway, with a big red bow wrapped around it.
>
Is they bow REALLY necessary?

[Longworth]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as usual, I
> have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.

Nothing except the following items?

> 1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
> supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")

Is this official? I have been holding up upgrading to the 2000c
awaiting XM weather capability. Appoach plates display will be another
nice item to have.

> 2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL looking
> for one...)

If the faceplate is plastic, you can repair it yourself. We
repaired all the interior cracks in our Cardinal with ABS plastic
(Royalite is ABS plastic) and cement then spray-painted with SEM vinyl
paint. The panels looked almost like new (one has to look real hard to
find the repaired area).

> 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years of
> home movies onto DVD....

You must have flying movies to include this item in your
aviation-related wish list ;-)
The DVD recorder is easy to operate but extremely limited. I
transferred all old home movies and tapes to DVD using a video capture
card (for something like $20 with nice video editing software - just
got another card for another pc for free after rebate). The software
allows me to mix slide show with movies with editing, music addition
etc. or just straight converting avi, mpeg files to DVD file format.
For the last two years, I have been sending these DVDs as Christmas
presents showing both old and new movies and pictures which are greatly
enjoyed by recipients.

> Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?

Good health!


Hai Longworth

[Larry Dighera]

On 15 Dec 2005 18:33:34 -0800, "Flyingmonk" >
wrote in . com>::

>Are you attempting to hijack this aviation related thread Larry? Shame
>on you... :^)

I'm merely following up a followup.

[Doug]

You like aviation GPS? How about a car GPS? Nice to push a button in a
faraway town and get "nearest <Insert your fav> Resturants". Turn by
turn instructions on where to drive the courtesy car.

[Marco Leon]

I use mine all the time. Got one made by Energizer for $13. It has a one red
LED and two white (not at the same time of course). Petzl makes them as well
but at over twice the price and you can't even angle the beam. Bought mine
at Target.

A must for any pilot who flies at night IMO.

Marco Leon

"Leonard Ellis" > wrote in message
. net...
> One gizmo that our eldest daughter and her husband gave me a while back is
a
> LED head-band flashlight, which is very comfortable to wear under the
> headset. Should the lighting fail at night, it provides excellent
> illumination on the panel. It is also a very convenient hands-free light
> for refueling our C172 in the dark. Highly recommended.
>
> Happy Holidays!
> Leonard Ellis
> Dallas, TX
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
> > As usual, that's the question I'm hearing from relatives. Also as
usual,
> > I have no friggin' clue what to tell them -- I need nothing.
> >
> > Therefore, it's time to open the topic up to the opinions of this
> > newsgroup. What do *you* want for Xmas this year? What's the latest,
> > greatest, coolest, must-have aviation thing that I should want under my
> > tree this year?
> >
> > I'll list a few things that I'm not likely to receive, just to get the
> > ball rolling:
> >
> > 1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
> > supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun
'06")
> >
> > 2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL
> > looking for one...)
> >
> > 3. A DVD recorder that will let me quickly and easily transfer 15 years
of
> > home movies onto DVD....
> >
> > Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993
> > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
> >
>
>



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[Greg B]

Yup, it should be AMU's, not APU's. Dang Alzheimer's???

-Greg B.

"Jon Kraus" > wrote in message
...
> do ya mean AMU's?
>
> Aviation Monetary Units 1 AMU = $1,000
>
> Jon Kraus
> '79 Mooney 201
> 4443H @ TYQ
>
> Greg B wrote:
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
>> news:F_nof.631500$_o.44264@attbi_s71...
>>
>>>Can you add to the list? What do *you* want for Christmas?
>>
>>
>> Money! Preferably in APU's...
>>
>> :-)
>

[Greg B]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Jon Kraus" wrote)
>> do ya mean AMU's?
>>
>> Aviation Monetary Units 1 AMU = $1,000
>
>>> Money! Preferably in APU's...
>
>
> I thought he wanted a turbine Mooney...
>
> ...which would then make possible me finding *his* Ercoupe in *my*
> driveway, with a big red bow wrapped around it.

For enough AMU's, you can find my Ercoupe in your driveway.... :-)

-Greg B.

[Greg B]

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
> This year my family is going to meet all the in-laws at Grandma's
> (Scottsdale, AZ) and the guest of honor will be my son, Michael, home for
> his first Christmas with family since going active duty with the Navy in
> 2002.

My parents ran away from home again this year to Phoenix. My brother and his
family and I are flying down there in January to celebrate Christmas
together. I've celebrated Christmas late a few times now. It gives me a few
more shopping days. :-)

-Greg B.

[Dan Luke]

"Michelle P" wrote:

> Wxworx for my PDA.

My Bluetooth WxWorx receiver and GPS are for sale--cheap.

Dan

c172rg at bellsouth dot net

[Dan Luke]

Bonanza G36 TC.

Any color is ok.

[Jim Burns]

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
> My Bluetooth WxWorx receiver and GPS are for sale--cheap.
>
> Dan

What's the reason Dan? I keep drooling over these systems and am curious
why you would sell yours.

Thanks
Jim

[Dan Luke]

"Jim Burns" wrote:

> Duh... you got a 396 didn't you?

Yep. Life is good.

[Jim Burns]

Duh... you got a 396 didn't you?
Nevermind :)
Jim

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dan Luke" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My Bluetooth WxWorx receiver and GPS are for sale--cheap.
> >
> > Dan
>
> What's the reason Dan? I keep drooling over these systems and am curious
> why you would sell yours.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>

[Michelle P]

My siblings and I decided to stop giving each other present for
Christmas and birthdays a few years ago. The nieces and nephews still
get presents though.
Michelle

Jay Honeck wrote:

>>we don't exchange useless stuff (AKA x-mas presents) in our family for
>>years. We spend some time together and try having a good time.
>>
>>
>
>Well, with our kids I don't mind. However, I proposed holding that kind of
>Christmas with my sisters a few years ago (ages 59 and 56, by the way), and
>you'd have thought I was trying to steal their favorite teddy bears.
>
>So, onward we march, into consumer heaven...
>
>:-(
>
>

[Steven Barnes]

A new crankcase & free labor. Our Cherokee 180's mount for the alternator is
beyond repair. Bah humbug.

[.Blueskies.]

"Flyingmonk" > wrote in message oups.com...
> My air space back over Washington, DC.
>

Here here!

[Montblack]

>> So, onward we march, into consumer heaven...

("Martin Hotze" wrote)
> so don't buy them anything. If they have something for you, OK. Maybe they
> will notice.


My brother got a cow in our name last year. Nice.

He did much research last year and this .org came up with fantastic
charitable/gift giving scores across the board - plus, he liked
organization.
<http://www.heifer.org/>


Montblack
......no cattle my arse! :-)

[George Patterson]

Blanche wrote:

> A job.
>
> Then I can buy my own toys, thank you.

Yeah. That's a present I'd like under my tree too.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

[Jay Honeck]

>> 1. XM weather for my Lowrance 2000c (According to Lowrance, this is
>> supposedly "in the works" and "to be ready to roll out at Sun N Fun '06")
>
> Is this official? I have been holding up upgrading to the 2000c
> awaiting XM weather capability. Appoach plates display will be another
> nice item to have.

It's "official scuttlebutt" off the Cherokee Pilots Association "Cherokee
Chat". Take that for what it's worth...

>> 2. A new faceplate for my Narco CP-136M audio panel (yes, I'm STILL
>> looking
>> for one...)
>
> If the faceplate is plastic, you can repair it yourself. We
> repaired all the interior cracks in our Cardinal with ABS plastic

I've repaired it -- twice. When the temperature gets down to near zero, it
just cracks again...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim Burns]

Dan,
What subscriptions do you have and what are the costs??
Thanks,
Jim

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Burns" wrote:
>
> > Duh... you got a 396 didn't you?
>
> Yep. Life is good.
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> You need to fix it again, the enlarge the mounting holes and
> not tighten them up so tight, so when the metal of the radio vs the
> plastic
> gets cold, the can shrink how much they want to, without putting pressure
> on
> the faceplate.

Yeah, that's what I tried last time. Trouble is, the screws come through
from the *sides* of the audio panel, meaning that they are necessarily too
small for the job, and the plastic that they must go through is too thin.

Worse, one side (where the screws go through) of the faceplate is completely
gone, after breaking numerous times. I have replaced this entire missing
side by building up successive layers of JB Weld (a 2-part epoxy-like
product that is drillable, sandable, and just about indestructible) and then
carving/cutting it to the proper dimensions with a Dremel tool. It was
painstaking work.

It lasted six months or so, until it got cold. The push-buttons for the
audio panel are slightly smaller than the tip of your index finger, which
means when you push them in turbulence, you tend to jam the plastic
faceplate, too. This, of course, puts stress on those four little side
screws, which is what broke the thing in the first place. Add cold
weather, and *pink!* -- it breaks pretty easily.

It's a dumb design, and Narco (incredibly) wants $200 just for the
faceplate!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Flyingmonk]

Have you thought of taking 'it' to a machine shop at your local high
school or tech school and paying the teacher or one of his best kids to
make you one(douplicate) in aluminum? Probably cost you $50.00.

The Monk

[Jay Honeck]

> Have you thought of taking 'it' to a machine shop at your local high
> school or tech school and paying the teacher or one of his best kids to
> make you one(douplicate) in aluminum? Probably cost you $50.00.

Been down this road. It's got the marker beacons (itsy bitsy colored
lenses) in the faceplate. Pretty tough to machine those.

Somebody here offered to try and make me one, but I lost track of them... I
don't think it would be possible, sadly...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Flyingmonk]

The lenses in the face plates are no problem, ever seen how stained
glass is made? Machine the plate with holes for where the lights will
go and drip colored acrylic in the holes and buff them flush.

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote

> I've repaired it -- twice. When the temperature gets down to near zero,
it
> just cracks again...

You are having a problem with different coefficients of expansion.

I don't know exactly how the face mounts, so this suggestion may not be
exactly right. You need to fix it again, the enlarge the mounting holes and
not tighten them up so tight, so when the metal of the radio vs the plastic
gets cold, the can shrink how much they want to, without putting pressure on
the faceplate.
--
Jim in NC

[Joe Feise]

So, I take it the 296 is for sale, then?
Now, if the 396 was for sale, cheap ;-)

-Joe

Jim Burns wrote on 12/16/05 12:08:

> Duh... you got a 396 didn't you?
> Nevermind :)
> Jim
>
> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Dan Luke" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> My Bluetooth WxWorx receiver and GPS are for sale--cheap.
>>>
>>> Dan
>> What's the reason Dan? I keep drooling over these systems and am curious
>> why you would sell yours.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jim
>>
>>
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> The lenses in the face plates are no problem, ever seen how stained
> glass is made? Machine the plate with holes for where the lights will
> go and drip colored acrylic in the holes and buff them flush.

Not *that* is a great idea!

Thanks,
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[John T]

Jay-I found a DVD recorder that accepts all kinds of inputs at best buy
for $99.00. Records up to 6 hours on a DVD.

As for what I want, I know I'm getting something from sportys. I know
because saw the packages, and I made sure I circled the video's and
books I wanted in their catalog and showed it to the wife.

now, getting something for my WIFE is a problem. She's too busy being
back in school for hobbies, and she's not into bling, she claims she
doesn't know what she wants for Xmas. About the only thing I am getting
her, at her request, is a foot pedel for transcribing. She also wants a
floor lamp (and most them are junk). Today is my "last chance" to find
something before Xmas.

John

[John T]

That was me who offered to make you a faceplate.

Still open. Just need to get your faceplate for dimensions.

John

[Jay Honeck]

> That was me who offered to make you a faceplate.
>
> Still open. Just need to get your faceplate for dimensions.

Ah, thanks John.

Well, if I had *known* we were going to get two straight weeks of snow, and
if I had *known* that the runways were going to be three solid sheets of
ice, and if I had *known* that I wasn't going to fly at all in December, I
coulda sent it to you.

If only I had known!

:-)

How long would the turn-around time be?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Martin Hotze]

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:10:14 -0600, John T wrote:

>Today is my "last chance" to find
>something before Xmas.

buy lingerie.
hmm, well, this might be selfish. :-)

#m
--
If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
W. Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I

[Dan Luke]

"Joe Feise" wrote:

> So, I take it the 296 is for sale, then?

Sorry, Mike Ware already bought it.

> Now, if the 396 was for sale, cheap ;-)

Ask me next year when Garmin makes a bigger model!

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

[Dan Luke]

"Jim Burns" wrote:

> Dan,
> What subscriptions do you have and what are the costs??
> Thanks,
> Jim

A have the Airman package--$49.95/mo.--and the regular XM entertainment
package, a $6.95/mo. add-on.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

[Flyingmonk]

>Not *that* is a great idea!

I hope you mean 'Now' ... :^) Glad to help.

[Tri-Pacer]

Since we needed a plane with more useful load and my wife said go for
it------ Then she said you'd better get anything and everything you need for
the new plane----- then she suggested a better and bigger hangar. On top of
all that, she helps me get the hangar all tidy and neat I don't DARE ask for
anything for Christmas

Cheers:

Paul
N1431A

[Flyingmonk]

Better pinch yourself Paul, you are either dead or dreaming. :^)

[Blanche Cohen]

George Patterson > wrote:
>Blanche wrote:
>
>> A job.
>>
>> Then I can buy my own toys, thank you.
>
>Yeah. That's a present I'd like under my tree too.
>
>George Patterson

So, perhaps we should create a consulting business together?

UAG, Ltd? (Unemployed Aviation Geeks, Ltd)

[Blanche Cohen]

In article >, John T > wrote:
>now, getting something for my WIFE is a problem. She's too busy being
>back in school for hobbies, and she's not into bling, she claims she
>doesn't know what she wants for Xmas. About the only thing I am getting
>her, at her request, is a foot pedel for transcribing. She also wants a
>floor lamp (and most them are junk). Today is my "last chance" to find
>something before Xmas.

She's back in school? Then get her a gift certificate someplace where
she needs supplies, books, whatever for school.

On the other hand, a small token of bling, e.g. simple necklace
(does she prefer gold or platinum?) will usually be appropriate.

Or if she's really busy with school, a "gift cert" for a day at
a local spa for relaxation (massage, facial, lunch, etc).

And you better get her the foot pedal, too.

[Montblack]

("John T" wrote)
[snip]
> now, getting something for my WIFE is a problem. She's too busy being back
> in school for hobbies, and she's not into bling, she claims she doesn't
> know what she wants for Xmas. About the only thing I am getting her, at
> her request, is a foot pedel for transcribing. She also wants a floor lamp
> (and most them are junk). Today is my "last chance" to find something
> before Xmas.


Give her a Llama.

http://www.heifer.org/site/c.edJRKQNiFiG/b.204586/
Or a Llama donated in her name.

Of all the gifts we've received in the past few years, 'our cow' (donated in
our names) is the one that tickled us the most, and we still talk about to
this day.


Montblack

[Longworth]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> > If the faceplate is plastic, you can repair it yourself. We
> > repaired all the interior cracks in our Cardinal with ABS plastic
>
> I've repaired it -- twice. When the temperature gets down to near zero, it
> just cracks again...


Hmm, did you reinforce the cracked area with fiberglass fabric? It is
needed to provide structural strength.

Hai Longworth

[John T]

A day or two to measure the faceplate. That plus whatever mailing time.
Then I'd take my time to get to the faceplate.

John

[Jay Honeck]

> Hmm, did you reinforce the cracked area with fiberglass fabric? It is
> needed to provide structural strength.

No. We're talking about an area the size and thickness of two quarters, in
spots.

I might try laying in a few strands (if I ever try this again), just to see
if it helps. Maybe I'll try embedding a couple of reinforcing strands
taken from a piece of heavy duty packing tape...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Then I'd take my time to get to the faceplate.

Wow, you must be an A&P!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Longworth]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> > Hmm, did you reinforce the cracked area with fiberglass fabric? It is
> > needed to provide structural strength.
>
> No. We're talking about an area the size and thickness of two quarters, in
> spots.

Maybe this is the reason why the patched area cracked again. We put
a layer of fiberglass fabric soaked with ABS cement on all cracked area
big a small then either add more ABS cement or a small piece of thin
ABS on top depending on the size of the cracks. Both the fiberglass
cloth and ABS cement were quite cheap ($5 or less - we got the cloth at
automotive store and ABS cement at Lowe). Cracks tend to occur at
high stress areas (screw holes etc.). The fiberglass is quite
essential to prevent future cracks.

Hai Longworth

[John T]

uh, make that take my time to MAKE the faceplate. :)

[Dave]

Try a hobby shop where they sell products for MODEL aircraft.

Fine , light weight fiberglass cloth,-- ask for fiberglass
tape for reinforcing wing center sections..

I use CA glue to layer the cloth in place after roughing the
surface...

Dave


On 18 Dec 2005 17:09:55 -0800, "Longworth" >
wrote:

>
>Jay Honeck wrote:
>> > Hmm, did you reinforce the cracked area with fiberglass fabric? It is
>> > needed to provide structural strength.
>>
>> No. We're talking about an area the size and thickness of two quarters, in
>> spots.
>
> Maybe this is the reason why the patched area cracked again. We put
>a layer of fiberglass fabric soaked with ABS cement on all cracked area
>big a small then either add more ABS cement or a small piece of thin
>ABS on top depending on the size of the cracks. Both the fiberglass
>cloth and ABS cement were quite cheap ($5 or less - we got the cloth at
>automotive store and ABS cement at Lowe). Cracks tend to occur at
>high stress areas (screw holes etc.). The fiberglass is quite
>essential to prevent future cracks.
>
> Hai Longworth

[cjcampbell]

Heck, here is a guy who manages to prove Godwin's law every time he
opens his mouth. I guess that makes Iran the automatic loser of any
international debate, eh?

[Longworth]

Dave,
CA glue works but not as good as ABS cement. It appeared that
previous owner(s) had used CA glue to patch some ABS plastic cracks in
our plane. In some areas, the old CA glue cracked (probably due to
thermal expansion mismatch with ABS which eventually caused fatigue
cracking). Patching ABS plastic with ABS material eliminates this
problem. Areas with thick globs of CA glue did not crack but turned
brownish yellow and looked pretty ugly. If only a small amount is
needed, one can make ABS cement by dissolving small ABS shavings in
MEK. For bigger repair job, the premade ABS cement can is the way to
go.

[Matt Barrow]

Something that burns Jet-A !!!

One engine or two.


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

[[email protected]]

Montblack > wrote:

> My brother got a cow in our name last year. Nice.

> He did much research last year and this .org came up with fantastic
> charitable/gift giving scores across the board - plus, he liked
> organization.
> <http://www.heifer.org/>

Cows, cows!!!! Here is a cow and it is an airport!

8D1, New Holstein, Wisconsin

Hey, isn't this airport near OSH? :-)


> Montblack
> .....no cattle my arse! :-)



Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction/mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

--
Jer/ (Slash) Eberhard, Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD, Ft Collins, CO
CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer<at>frii.com http://users.frii.com/jer/
C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor
CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot BM218 HAM N0FZD 235 Young Eagles!

[Flyingmonk]

4 Animals

A teacher asked her class, "What do you want out of life?

A little girl in the back row raised her hand an said, "All I want out

of life is four little animals, just like my Mom always says".

The teacher asked, "Really and what four little animals would that
be?"

The little girl said, "A mink on my back, a jaguar in the garage, a
tiger in the bed and a jackass to pay for all of it."

The teacher fainted.

[Flyingmonk]

THIS is what I want for Christmas. I didn't know they got this
advanced with these things. I bought a winded up one once when I was
in Paris.

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1102/

[Jay Honeck]

> THIS is what I want for Christmas. I didn't know they got this
> advanced with these things. I bought a winded up one once when I was
> in Paris.
>
> http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1102/

That *is* cool. I, too, bought a wind-up version (in Wisconsin, not
France) once, and had a great time with it.

I wonder how they control direction of flight?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jose]

> I wonder how they control direction of flight?

I think they don't. The clip was made of many short takes, and the bird
appeard to have no real directional control. On-off, a (fixed for
flight) tail setting, and the wind. When the bird is pointed right, you
flap. Otherwise you glide and wait.

Though that's an expensive way to handle RC. I lost a lot of model
rockets that way.

Jose
--
You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Darrel Toepfer]

Michelle P wrote:
> My siblings and I decided to stop giving each other present for
> Christmas and birthdays a few years ago. The nieces and nephews still
> get presents though.

Michelle P wrote:
> My siblings and I decided to stop giving each other present for
> Christmas and birthdays a few years ago. The nieces and nephews still
> get presents though.

We (husband/wife) buy a man gift and a woman gift and then draw numbers
for order of selection. When its your turn, you can choose an unselected
item or choose to steal a previously selected item. The person who has
an item stolen can immediately steal something else or choose an
unselected item but can't choose the item stolen from them...

Makes it more interesting and fun for everyone. We put a $25 spending
limit per item and they can be something useful or a gag gift...

Google "White Elephant" you'll probably turn something up about this...

[.Blueskies.]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:TJSrf.657949$_o.26910@attbi_s71...
>> THIS is what I want for Christmas. I didn't know they got this
>> advanced with these things. I bought a winded up one once when I was
>> in Paris.
>>
>> http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1102/
>
> That *is* cool. I, too, bought a wind-up version (in Wisconsin, not France) once, and had a great time with it.
>
> I wonder how they control direction of flight?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

If I were to do it, I would roll the tail back and forth, and angle it up and down for pitch control. It looks like they
did a 'loop' or two in the video.